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Conceal Carry Preference (Vanity)
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Posted on 09/14/2015 8:53:17 AM PDT by demshateGod

Hi trusted Freepers,

Kansas recently passed a constitutional carry law. So someone I know wants to start carrying for protecting his family. He likes .40 S&W caliber because, well, it's superior to everything else in every way. He has a small frame .40 but it's a little too thick to carry comfortably (1.25"). In his search for a small .40 he's looking at either a Walther PPS or a M&P Shield. He has a few questions:

1. Does anyone know of anyone who has experience selling an 7-8 year old Taurus PT140? 2. How much should he ask for? 3. What is a good way to sale a pistol? 4. What are thoughts on PPS vs Shield? 5. He's looked at Slickguns, Cabela's, the local Sheels, etc. and there's a wide range in prices for these guns. What's a good/realistic price?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; guns; sw; walther
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My friend would enjoy your feedback.
1 posted on 09/14/2015 8:53:17 AM PDT by demshateGod
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To: demshateGod

Midwest Gun Trader is a good place to sell guns locally if you are around the KC area.

Gun Broker and Guns America will have many listings that he can scan to see what others are asking for the same model.

If he privately sells the gun make sure to get cash, and ask for a picture of the buyers drivers license with the numbers covered up. Best to meet in a Walmart parking lot. They have far superior cameras and are busy all the time making anyone wanting to commit a crime think twice.


2 posted on 09/14/2015 9:05:35 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: demshateGod

S&W M&P .380 with laser site.


3 posted on 09/14/2015 9:06:43 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Hillary - Ethically sleazy and politically stupid)
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To: demshateGod

I have two good contacts in the area if he is willing to buy in Missouri and transfer to Kansas. Probably will cost him an extra $20 for the transfer but I can send him to a good friend that can help him pick the right gun.


4 posted on 09/14/2015 9:08:11 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: demshateGod

Personally I like a revolver for best concealability light weight and reliability especially with no jacket. A 442 or LCR. I would never bet my life on a Taurus or any semi for that matter unless I tested it regularly. Women in my experience have a lot more issues with semi’s.


5 posted on 09/14/2015 9:09:54 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: demshateGod
Kansas recently passed a constitutional carry law.

What, the 2nd Amendment wasn't enough? I didn't think free men needed to ask permission. =)

Kimber ultra-carry. 'Nuff said.

6 posted on 09/14/2015 9:11:40 AM PDT by dware (Trump/Cruz 2016, or get ready for 8 more dummycrat years)
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To: demshateGod

Better choice would be a Springfield Armory XDS in 9mm. 3.3” barrel.


7 posted on 09/14/2015 9:12:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Best advice I have is don't sell it, keep it, especially after 8 years of familiarity with the weapon.

Hard to come up with a reasonable price with the only information on the gun's condition being 7-8 years old. So I have to base my assumptions on there being no modifications and he still has the case the gun originally came in.

$250 is a realistic selling price assuming the case and two magazines. I'd strongly suggest, however, starting with the dealer he's buying his new weapon from and seeing how close to that target the shop is willing to give in credit towards the new gun, as the amount of time and effort saved would justify it.

If there's been significant upgrades, and those upgrades have been professionally done, the shop is most likely the best place to recover those investments, as they'd be best able to get the premium price vs some other sales method.

In any case, if you look at it as $50 a year use out of the gun for 8 years, he's already gotten $400 back off of it, which exceeds the value of it new; any more money back is just creme on top.

As for the PPS, my advice is only buy from someone who has had a long experience in selling and servicing Walthers; too often I've come across great deals from sellers wanting to dump a less than prime gun that only really needs a little TLC to make into a great weapon.

The S&W is probably a better choice if he doesn't have a good gunsmith to work with.

In either case, he should see if a local range has any on hand to try, or check with friends at the shooting range. Both guns are dramatically different compared to the Taurus if he's put significant amounts of lead through the gun.

8 posted on 09/14/2015 9:21:20 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Really like my Ruger LC9S. Has never malfunctioned even when new. Excellent trigger. Carry in an IWB holster and can pretty much forget it’s there. The smooth shape makes it easy to draw and reholster.


9 posted on 09/14/2015 9:22:20 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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>>He likes .40 S&W caliber because, well, it’s superior to everything else in every way.

LOL. Your friend lost all credibility right there.


10 posted on 09/14/2015 9:26:20 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Best choice S&W 3913 Tactical.


11 posted on 09/14/2015 9:27:43 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Treason is as treason does, demons is as demUNs does.)
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To: demshateGod

Armslist.com is like Craig’s list, except for things that go bang. I agree on Walmart parking lot for a cash deal. I once had a rifle transferred on gunbroker.com, BTTBA (before the tragic boating accident). Only extras were shipping charges(buyer pays) and a $20 transfer fee from the receiving FFL. Selling is easy on arms list. They should have rules posted with respect to differing state laws. For carry I like the Ruger LCP in .380 with either a clip on IWB or pocket holster. Thinking about switching to 9mm in either Glock 43 ($$) or Kimber Ultra Carry ($$$).


12 posted on 09/14/2015 9:32:39 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Bodyguard. I know someone with one of those. It’s nice. The handle is too small.


13 posted on 09/14/2015 9:42:05 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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My son in law has a Sheild 40.

He likes it. I have the 40c. Personally, I like the 40c better. After shooting it for a while, the Shield just doesn’t feel comfortable.

But as everyone who is going to answer this thread is going to tell you....opinions are as diverse as people. Get what you like and can use.

Every time I’ve sold a handgun, I got less than I wanted and probably what they were worth. So I just stopped selling them. I figure, what the hell, if one breaks I have backups for a couple of days.


14 posted on 09/14/2015 9:46:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Thank you. XD is a great gun, just a little pricey. It seems like I’ve seen them for less than 400 though. Why would you say it’s better than a S&W?


15 posted on 09/14/2015 9:51:10 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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My preference has always been Sigs. Every single one I have (and I have a “few”) is accurate and goes bang every time I pull the trigger - even my Mosquito (a .22 training gun) once I started feeding it high-velocity ammo. They tend to be a little pricey, but I don’t mind paying for dependability and accuracy.

My “Summer gun” is a Sig 938 and my “Winter gun” is a 1911 RCS, which, unfortunately, is now out of production...


16 posted on 09/14/2015 9:51:26 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: kingu

Good advice. Thank you.


17 posted on 09/14/2015 9:51:36 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Is it double action? Does it have a thumb safety?


18 posted on 09/14/2015 9:53:26 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Bryanw92

We all have to have our irrational dogmas.


19 posted on 09/14/2015 9:53:58 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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The “S” stands for striker fired. It has a thumb safety but there is a Pro model without.


20 posted on 09/14/2015 9:58:54 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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