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Ben Carson, the Superior Outsider
Politico ^ | September 2, 2015 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 09/03/2015 4:37:33 PM PDT by Steelfish

Ben Carson, the Superior Outsider By Rich Lowry 09/02/15 (snip) Carson's rise suggests that it's possible to catch the populist wave roiling Republican politics and yet not be an obnoxious braggart who abuses anyone who crosses him and will say or do anything as long as he's getting attention. Ben Carson is a superior outsider to Donald Trump.

He is more gentlemanly and more conservative, with a more compelling life story. Carson is a man of faith who, despite his manifest accomplishments, has a quiet dignity and winsome modesty about him. Ben Carson is a throwback, whereas Donald Trump is a bold-faced name straight out of our swinish celebrity culture.

What they have in common is that they are political neophytes light on policy details who are memorable communicators precisely because they speak and carry themselves so differently from other politicians. Although the similarities stop there — Carson is what Trump calls "low energy," and yet he makes it work for him.

At the Faith and Freedom event in Washington in June, Carson gave a speech that had no obvious applause lines, never rose above a conversational tone, had very little political content — and left perhaps the best impression of any presentation by a candidate.

Few politicians have ever wielded soft-spokeness to such rhetorical effect. Carson aced the Fox debate when in his closing statement he didn't puff himself up and attempt to soar like candidates always do, but gently said a few nice things about his background as a surgeon, with a touch of humor. It was a hit. (snip) Carson is a more natural fit for conservatives than Trump. If you like your outsider not to favor higher taxes, not to have once opposed the ban of partial birth abortion, not to speak favorably of socialized medicine, not to have been an erstwhile booster of Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, and not to have experience buying off politicians, Ben Carson (or Carly Fiorina) is a much better bet than Donald Trump.


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1 posted on 09/03/2015 4:37:33 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Rich RINO Lowery spewing out the new idea for getting rid of Trump.

Will not work, but it is a nice try and Carson is a fine person.


2 posted on 09/03/2015 4:41:31 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Steelfish

Carson: Pro amnesty (path to citizenship FOR ALL), anti 2d Amendment.

No thanks.


3 posted on 09/03/2015 4:44:26 PM PDT by datura
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To: Steelfish

I’m hesitant to toss a lamb of God into a den of wolves. I’d make him Surgeon General and give him a staff to work out a proper healthcare plan for the nation. Set the healer to God’s task of healing.


4 posted on 09/03/2015 4:46:21 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: dforest

Uncle Ben is a fine man— Far to “fine”. We need a “hitter” not Uncle Ben. This country is circling the drain.


5 posted on 09/03/2015 4:48:15 PM PDT by WENDLE (How did Hillary get Top Secret docs out of the Dedicated Secure Network facility?)
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To: Steelfish

Nice guy. I like him. He came out in support of amnesty. No.


6 posted on 09/03/2015 4:49:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Steelfish

Third time this has been posted today. Kinda like what NRO does every day with their anti-Trump diatribes :)


7 posted on 09/03/2015 4:50:34 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Steelfish

Trump is not an outsider, of course. He has made a career out of insider deals and political favoritism.


8 posted on 09/03/2015 4:52:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: Steelfish

Like him a lot . . . for Surgeon General, not President. Let him work with Trump to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something “much better” and then after eight years, he’ll be in a great position to make another run.


9 posted on 09/03/2015 4:55:45 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: dforest
Rich RINO Lowery spewing out the new idea for getting rid of Trump.
Will not work, but it is a nice try and Carson is a fine person.
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Carson IS a fine person. But he lacks any experience that I can detect that might prepare him to deal with the Worlds All Time Largest Ever In The History of The World Bureaucracy. Trump, OTOH, seems genetically designed to fulfill that role. Add Ted Cruz to the mix and maybe we have a chance to save this nation.
10 posted on 09/03/2015 4:57:33 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: GeronL

Carson: Pro amnesty (path to citizenship FOR ALL), anti 2d Amendment.

Sorry Doc, you lost me , I no longer see you as different than Rubio the Boobio, and Jebba The Hutt.

Cheap Labor express Uncle Ben, you just boarded it.


11 posted on 09/03/2015 4:58:16 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: Steelfish

“...suggests that it’s possible to catch the populist wave roiling Republican politics and yet not be an obnoxious braggart who abuses anyone who crosses him and will say or do anything as long as he’s getting attention.”

When Trump takes exception to someone calling him a jackass, a cancer on conservatism, an obnoxious braggart, girlie-boy Lowery has a hissy-fit that someone actually knows how to fight back. If you took all the writers over at National Review and distilled all their collective testosterone into one needle, there would not be enough to ...


12 posted on 09/03/2015 4:58:53 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Steelfish

I thought I was going to read an article about Ben Carson.

Does Lowry have to make this about Trump?

How stupid are these people? They can’t keep his name out of their mouths.


13 posted on 09/03/2015 5:04:22 PM PDT by Empire View
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To: Zenjitsuman; South40; cripplecreek; MeshugeMikey

Strong and steadfast! Never waver! Leadership! (lol)

Now,
Donald Trump’s plan for the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in
the United States.

Version #1: Figure it out later.
“The first thing we have to do is strengthen our borders. And after that, we’re going to have plenty of time to talk about it.”

July 23

Version #2:

Figure it out now. Deport “the bad ones.” Work out something so the good ones can stay.
“If somebody’s been outstanding, we try and work something out.” (
July 24
)

Version #3: Deport the bad ones. Maybe let
some of the good ones stay.
“We’re going to do what’s right.
Some are going to have to go.
And some, we’re just going to see what happens.” (
July 26
)
Version #4: Deport everybody.
“But the good ones

of which there are many

I want to expedite it so they
can come back in legally.” (
July 27
)
Version #5: Maybe don’t deport everybody.
Dana Bash, CNN: “What about the ‘Dreamers?’ What about people who came here when they were children, they didn’t know what they were doing, they came with their parents who brought them here illegally?... Should they have to
leave, too?
Trump: “They’re with their parents? It depends.” (
July 29
)
Version #6: Deport everybody, the sequel.
Chuck Todd, NBC: [talking about the “Dreamers”] “You’re going to kick them out?”
Trump: “They have to go.” (
Sunday
on “Meet the Press.”


14 posted on 09/03/2015 5:04:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: Caipirabob
I’d make him Surgeon General and give him a staff to work out a proper healthcare plan for the nation. Set the healer to God’s task of healing.

Which still indicates you're a "conservative" who thinks the government can come up with a "proper healthcare plan for the nation".

Carson's a good man, but not so good as to plan out our "proper" health care. And you probably call yourself a conservative, too.

15 posted on 09/03/2015 5:12:24 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: WENDLE
Why are you calling him "Uncle Ben?"

The man made his own legacy in the field of medicine. He's far from some stereotypical, affirmative-action step-n-fetchit.

16 posted on 09/03/2015 5:12:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bush [the 90s rock band] for POTUS 2016!!!)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Just a bit a Googling showed me that Dr. Carson has said very pro-Second amendment things. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/04/10/dr-ben-carson-clarifies-his-stance-on-second-amendment-at-nra-annual-meetings-n1983579

I suppose only Wonderful-Trump is allowed to "evolve" on issues. Oh, maybe you did not hear the back in day Wonderful-Trump wanted to ban horrible "assault weapons."

17 posted on 09/03/2015 5:17:00 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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To: BfloGuy

Whatever. Everyone knows the government establish policy that could let the free market blossom. Carson should have a good idea on what doctors need to thrive. You’re looking to troll and I’m fine with that, have a nice day.


18 posted on 09/03/2015 5:19:02 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: WENDLE

So true. Call me jaded but the powers that be keep trying... Bush, Fiorina, Cruz, Carson.... All good people, ( excluding Bush and Fiorina) who cannot and will not win. Why do they keep pushing? Are they afraid of Trump?

Do they honestly want the Democrats to win it?

do Conservatives want Hillary?, Biden? Warren?

Vote Trump/Cruz!


19 posted on 09/03/2015 5:21:49 PM PDT by Melinator (my 2 cents)
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To: datura
"People already here illegally could apply for guest-worker status from outside of the country," Carson wrote in November [2014]. "This means they would have to leave first."

Perhaps someone here can enlighten me as to how this differs from Trump's position (that assumes you know what today's position is) that illegals need to leave and come back.

Dr. Carson is not pro-amnesty.

20 posted on 09/03/2015 5:22:57 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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