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Looking forward to the good folks of FR to comment on this. Especially in light of what is happening out west with that disgusting spill in the river and hearing that the EPA is basically telling everyone to f*ck off.
1 posted on 08/12/2015 3:56:33 PM PDT by qaz123
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2 posted on 08/12/2015 4:18:45 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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The Depts. of Energy and Education should be eliminated immediately. They are both totally useless and no one would miss them. That should be a GOP platform plank.

My understanding is that GOPe types won’t abolish the Dept. of Education because they think voters will think Republicans are “anti-education.” I think most people know that government bureaucrats are not doing anything to improve eduction.


3 posted on 08/12/2015 4:21:08 PM PDT by Empire View
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The only thing government does well, spend other people’s money.


8 posted on 08/12/2015 4:38:15 PM PDT by exnavy (Common sense seems to be uncommon these days.)
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This stuff almost never goes away.

I just read that Britain created a civil service position in 1805 -- the guy's job was to stand on the cliffs of Dover with a spyglass and keep watch in case Napoleon mounted an invasion of the British Isles.

The position was eventually eliminated.

In 1945.

10 posted on 08/12/2015 4:50:30 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Henry Bowman where are you?)
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Res ipsa loquitur...


12 posted on 08/12/2015 5:02:46 PM PDT by rdb3 (What did you dream? It's alright, we told you what to dream!)
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In 1907, in Italy, a suggestion was made to tear down an area in Rome near the Vatican for an expansion of public buildings. A commission was established to study the feasibility of tearing down seven historic buildings because there was public backlash against the idea because there was structural artwork as part of the defenestrations and architecture of importance in the construction these supposedly historic antique buildings. Of course, in Rome you can essentially stand anywhere and throw a rock and you'll hit a historic antique building with artistic fenestrations and architecture.

The commission held numerous public hearings and it was decided to table the issue for five years to think about it, and the commission, which was paid a yearly amount from the government for its work, would continue studying ways to save the artworks and architecture samples if it decided to approve razing the buildings.

Five years later they held hearings again. . . again tabled the issue and returned to studying the very serious concerns of the people for another ten years. At the next public hearings, no members of the public showed up. . . or the government for that matter.

In the mid 1990s when I heard about this commission, it was STILL studying tearing down these buildings and saving the art. The membership on the commission had become hereditary with father handing his membership to son or daughter or in cases where there were no progeny, to nephew or niece, or even putting it up to the highest bidder, and was now in its forth generation. The commission had regularly voted its members pay raises and had received the amounts requested from the government. It had survived over 60 Italian governmental turnovers and numerous budgets, including the fall of the monarchy, the fascists, and all of the votes of no-confidence in the various prime ministers since WWII.

The seven buildings themselves were torn down in the 1930s by Mussolini without the involvement of the public or the commission (and apparently without their knowledge) and no structural art or architecture was saved. At a later meeting of the commission, the destruction was deemed irrelevant to the purposes of the important work of the commission. . . and they continued their feasibility "studies," regularly turning in progress reports to be filed with the Italian Arts commission for filing, which obviously were never read or reviewed by anyone.

I learned about the commission because it was FINALLY being dissolved by a reform commissioner, an independently wealthy conservative, over the objections of the other commissioners who did not want to let go of their paychecks!

13 posted on 08/12/2015 5:35:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Heard today the Feds paid over $ 200,000 for biofuel... at $149/gallon.
It was made from algae by a company that got $21 million in stimulus money in 2009.


14 posted on 08/12/2015 6:02:46 PM PDT by alpo
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Well as a low level FReeper I think the vast majority of the folks on this site fully understand the the point of the article. Marxists brought unelected unaccountable burocracies into being. In time the agencies would be used by the marxists to impose their will upon us. In essence their establishment really represents the political founding of a ruling marxist aristocracy. Agencies (used loosely) such as the EPA, the IRS, the Interior Department, the Department of Education, etc. are used by the marxists (democrats) whenever they are in power to further their agenda, and their agenda is diametrically opposed to God, liberty, freedom, morality, virtue, capitalism, essentially the pillars that make America great and more importantly enable our Republic to survive. And the dims move as fast against America as low information voters allow. The money spent represents corruption and stupidity. We can fix that easily. Correcting the thinking and value systems that lead to the establishment of the agencies in the first place is much harder and will take much longer, if it can be done at all. Nice little post, iIdid enjoy it.


15 posted on 08/12/2015 6:29:19 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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22 posted on 08/13/2015 12:12:16 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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