Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

SpaceX Launch Ends in Failure
Live Leak ^ | 06/28/15

Posted on 06/28/2015 9:31:41 AM PDT by Enlightened1

SpaceX just failed at its third attempt..

(Excerpt) Read more at liveleak.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: crs7; falcon9; nasa; paultardation; paultardnoisemachine; randpaulnoisemachine; randsconcerntrolls; rocket; skynet; space; spaceexploration; spacex
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-47 next last
To: Enlightened1
We need Project Orion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwrLR2kv5KA

(Caution - long video)

21 posted on 06/28/2015 12:58:19 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: robert14
I lack the technical knowledge to add anything to the debate on this.

One thing Elon Musk said might interest you.

His prime goal is to bring down the cost of a space launch.

According to Musk, a methane powered rocket engine can be refurbished and reused many more times than a rocket powered by other types of fuel.

22 posted on 06/28/2015 4:53:14 PM PDT by zeestephen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: tanknetter

yes for progress/orbital nasa has one more docking coller at ksc


23 posted on 06/28/2015 8:12:33 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: dila813

If you read your link, you will find that is in development and not yet in use.


24 posted on 06/29/2015 4:32:50 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Does that matter?

You said it wasn’t used for rocket fuel. You were wrong.

Not only that, this isn’t the only rocket out there using Methane.


25 posted on 06/29/2015 6:17:38 AM PDT by dila813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: dila813

No rockets use it for fuel.

Rockets are in development to use it in the future.

SpaceX is trying to develop it for going to Mars. It is 27% less efficient that using the Kerosene type fuel. They are looking at using it for that trip so that the rocket can be refueled from resources available on Mars.


26 posted on 06/29/2015 6:32:39 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: dila813
Methane powered, right?

Wrong. LOX-kerosene.

27 posted on 06/29/2015 6:37:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: zeestephen

One thing Elon Musk said might interest you.

His prime goal is to bring down the cost of a space launch.

...

He’s already brought down launch costs and wants to bring them down much more. But the people who’ve already decided to hate him don’t want to hear it.


28 posted on 06/29/2015 6:38:36 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: dila813

http://www.braeunig.us/space/propel.htm

Here we have another company that developed a methane rocket engine and tested it on the ground. But it has not be installed and used on a rocket.

http://xcor.com/engines/LOX-methane_5M15.html

If you can show me where it has been used on a rocket, I will be glad to confirm I am wrong.


29 posted on 06/29/2015 6:39:47 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Yeah, you would say that because you’re [part of the conspiracy.


30 posted on 06/29/2015 6:39:49 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: tanknetter

Wasn’t it carrying the new docking collar for the American segment? Plus a bunch of stuff to replace the supplies lost when that last Russian launch blew up?

...

It’s a shame that the capsule didn’t parachute down to a safe landing, so all that stuff could be reused. The capsule apparently survived the disintegration of the rocket.


31 posted on 06/29/2015 6:40:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: thackney

you made an absolute statement, you were wrong

live with it


32 posted on 06/29/2015 6:40:41 AM PDT by dila813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Lucky

Methane or Kerosene, all from drilling, I would be happy to see it used.


33 posted on 06/29/2015 6:41:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus

thanks, had to look it up already because someone insisted that there was no such thing as a methane powered rocket.


34 posted on 06/29/2015 6:41:42 AM PDT by dila813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: dila813

What rocket uses methane for fuel if I am wrong?


35 posted on 06/29/2015 6:46:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: thackney

http://www.beg.utexas.edu/energyecon/lng/LNG_introduction_07.php

https://www.blueorigin.com/

http://innerspace.net/tag/raptor/

so even though you are now putting caveats on your earlier statement, you are still wrong.


36 posted on 06/29/2015 6:51:48 AM PDT by dila813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: dila813
It is 27% less efficient that using the Kerosene type fuel.

That wasn't correct, I remembered it wrong and should have included the link.

Methane as rocket 27% more volumetric than the RP-1/LOX combination.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/03/spacex-advances-drive-mars-rocket-raptor-power/

37 posted on 06/29/2015 6:52:06 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Blue Origin is already on their 3rd generation of LNG rockets


38 posted on 06/29/2015 6:52:40 AM PDT by dila813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: dila813
I tried all of your links.

None of them show a rocket using methane.

As we discussed before, the raptor engine is in development and not being used.

so even though you are now putting caveats on your earlier statement

I stated in post 14: "Nor is methane used as rocket fuel."

I don't consider "in testing for future use on a rocket" the same as "used as rocket fuel".

Can you or someone else, show me where a rocket, not just a ground mounted rocket engine, used methane as fuel?

39 posted on 06/29/2015 6:58:35 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: dila813
Blue Origin is already on their 3rd generation of LNG rocket

According to their web site, the LNG (methane) fueled rocket engine is still in testing.

https://www.blueorigin.com/technology#engine_stories_1

Engine Propellant - Thrust at sea level
BE-1 peroxide - 2,200 lb.
BE-2 kerosene + peroxide - 31,000 lb.
BE-3 liquid hydrogen + liquid oxygen - 110,000 lb.
BE-4 liquefied natural gas + liquid oxygen - 550,000 lb.

40 posted on 06/29/2015 7:02:50 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-47 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson