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Pirate Capt Kidd's 'treasure' found in Madagascar
BBC ^ | 7 may 2015 | BBC

Posted on 05/07/2015 7:27:16 AM PDT by csvset

Underwater explorers in Madagascar say they have found what is thought to be the treasure of notorious Scottish pirate William Kidd.

Soldiers on Sainte Marie island have been guarding the 50kg silver bar after divers brought it to shore. Madagascar's president as well as UK and US diplomats received the suspected treasure at a ceremony on the island. Capt Kidd was executed in 1701 for piracy after returning from a voyage to the Indian Ocean.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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1 posted on 05/07/2015 7:27:16 AM PDT by csvset
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG ping?

Pirate Capt Kidd's 'treasure' found in Madagascar

2 posted on 05/07/2015 7:28:46 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Talk Like A Pirate Day coming this September 19th!

Arrrgh!


3 posted on 05/07/2015 7:40:16 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: csvset

Oh no it is not! It is my treasure I lost it while on vacation. Mine, Mine, mine!


4 posted on 05/07/2015 7:40:16 AM PDT by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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To: csvset

I thought is was buried on Oak Island - guess I can stop watching ...


5 posted on 05/07/2015 7:57:06 AM PDT by 11th_VA (where's Brutus?)
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To: csvset

50 kg = 1786 ounces which is a fairly decent chunk of change.


6 posted on 05/07/2015 8:03:09 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: csvset
The BBC wants people to be aware that Capt. Kidd was Scottish, not English. In 1701 Scotland and England were still separate countries.

As far as I know, William Kidd was not related to his American near-namesake, Billy the Kid.

7 posted on 05/07/2015 8:25:33 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: csvset
Indiana University's Charles Beeker has been involved in Capt. Kidd research and more specifically the Armenian vessel: cf. here
8 posted on 05/07/2015 8:37:51 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Vigilanteman

Little over $29,000.


9 posted on 05/07/2015 8:43:10 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: csvset

They are going to need some real solid verification for this claim. The area they found it in is notorious for shipwrecks, because it was right along the “India passage” used by Portuguese sailors for centuries. They would try to navigate through the center of the Mozambique channel, while keeping Madagascar in view, so they would not get too close to the dangerous waters near the African coast, but if they strayed too close to Madagascar, they would run aground on the reefs.

Eventually, the Portuguese made their ships start going around Madagascar because that channel was so dangerous.


10 posted on 05/07/2015 8:55:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: csvset

Capt Kidd was not a pirate he was a privateer operating under the authority of the King of England to harass and attack French shipping and confiscate it. He was basically a pirate for the crown. That is until he attacked a ship that was under a French flag that was actually captained by a British Citizen with ‘connections’.

At that point he was branded a pirate returned to England, tried , convicted and hung. He was actually hung more than once and then put on display as a ‘warning’ to others against piracy. The true warning was that the King would hang your ass if you crossed one of his friends or benefactors. Kind of like Bill and Hillary.


11 posted on 05/07/2015 9:42:22 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: chajin

Thanks for that info.


12 posted on 05/07/2015 11:54:26 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks csvset. Interesting find off Madagascarrrrrrrrrr.

13 posted on 05/07/2015 1:12:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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Thanks for posting that. I read a great book (very detailed with references) talking about that. “The Pirate Hunter” by Richard Zach. A great read. When he took over the ship he let anyone who wanted to go free. Some of the crew stayed with him. IIRC it was full of linens from India and the Bombay Company (of England). I think they ended up in the Caribbean with it and got pennies on the dollar for it.

Kidd's trial was a real farce. He spent years trying to get his papers (while in prison). When he finally did, just before the trial, the most important papers were missing.

In pre-trial, still requesting the papers in order to prove his innocence, he was told that those papers would need to wait as evidence brought up during the trial, so he plead not-guilty so it could proceed to trial.

When the trial came he still hadn't received the papers that would prove his innocence (yet implicate the King IIRC). When the judge asked him for proof, Kidd said he was still waiting on the papers.

The judge told him he had had over two years to get his affairs in order and he should have mentioned it earlier. It was too late now. Guilty.

14 posted on 05/07/2015 2:02:14 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So cool!


15 posted on 05/07/2015 2:27:40 PM PDT by Monkey Face (You have the right to remain silent, Anything you say will be badly misquoted and posted on Facebook)
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To: 11th_VA

Oh, you beat me to it. No more mystery surrounding the sinkhole on Oak Island.


16 posted on 05/07/2015 3:33:20 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Vigilanteman; csvset

50 kg = 1,607 troy oz; $25-30,000


17 posted on 05/07/2015 3:41:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: csvset

The money quote:

“Capt Kidd was captured and brought back to London. He was found guilt of piracy and the murder of one of his crewmen during a row in 1697, and sentenced to death.

During his execution in Wapping in 1701, the first rope put around his neck broke, so he was strung up a second time. That rope also snapped, but the third one held.

Afterwards, his body was dipped in tar and hung by chains along the River Thames to serve as a warning to would-be pirates.”


18 posted on 05/07/2015 3:55:49 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Capt Kidd was not a pirate he was a privateer operating under the authority of the King of England to harass and attack French shipping and confiscate it. He was basically a pirate for the crown.

And not a particularly competent one. Doubtful if he amassed much treasure.

19 posted on 05/07/2015 9:01:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Sub-editors: totes unnecessary.)
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To: csvset; SunkenCiv

TV documentary on Pirate Treasure off Madagascar on cable today on one of the History channels or maybe the Smithsonian.

They were diving on a wreck they hoped was the Fiery Dragon from the early 1700s. They had found some Chinese pottery and a few gold coins when it closed.

I don’t know if this was the wreck from the story on this post.


20 posted on 05/09/2015 12:32:33 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's yoIur plan?)
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