Posted on 04/27/2015 11:55:26 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
Vortex didn’t have that scope I was looking for on their site.
I’ll eventually get an ACOG, but that’ll probably have to wait until next year.
At this point, I really just want to see how far I can reach with this rifle. I don’t wear glasses (Yet), and can see through the AimSport that’s on it pretty good -better now that I have the rail extension attached.
Just to see how far I can hit something with any accuracy.
It wasn’t a Vortex.
I’ve looked at the sites for Burris, Trijicon, Leupold, Nikon, Barska, Bushnell, Vortex, Amazon searches and looked through my computer’s history. Still can’t find it.
http://leupold.com/tactical/scopes/mark-ar-riflescopes/mark-ar-mod-1-4-12x40mm/
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/crossfire-II-4-12x44-with-dead-hold-bdc-moa-reticle
If you can reliably hit a man-sized target at 300 yds, particularly with 3 shots in 10 seconds, then you are OK, and a decent rifleman.
If you can do that while standing, you are a studly man.
If you can do that while moving, and taking fire, you are an actor in a movie.
Optics help, but won’t be the differentiator with an AR at extreme range.
NET: get what you like and feel ‘right’ with.
While the .223/5.56 in a standard AR or carbine platform can be ‘accurate’ to 300+ yds., why try that hard? 7.62 and up are better rounds, generally with longer barrels and the right twist.
Besides, that justifies buying another rifle!
The upside of 5.56 is $.40 +/- per decent round downrange. 7.62 that’ll hit what you aim at (unless you reload) is pushing $1/rnd.
Bummer.
Lots of nice scopes out there, though.
What do you want to do with the rifle? If you want to do tactical or three-gun type shooting, your answer is going to be different than hunting of 200 yard range shooting.
There is a thread on AR scopes of all kinds and their good and bad points on AR15.com.
You might want to start here:
https://www.ar15.com/archive/forum.html?b=3&f=18
At this stage, I just want to see how well I can do with this build. And how well this build can shoot.
The max distance they have at my range is 25 yards. Once I learn to get better there, I’ll have to make friends with some farmers up north and try to work in a bit of distance and learn all about windage and elevation in outdoor environments.
I’m still doing another Amazon search, but will rifle through the link you provided.
Thank you.
Your call. I only paid $1100 for my TA-30 new, so I’m happy with my choice.
Sound like you ought to working for Vortex..
the AR15 in 5.56 mm is an extremely fun gun, especially for folks who rarely get to shoot at a range past 200 yards and it is very very capable of hitting man sized targets at 300 yards even with crappy mil surp ammo. With quality reloads or match grade ammo and the right scope, hitting prairie dog sized objects at 300 yards is very doable.
I shot a dime sized 10 shot group at 60 yards with my stag model 8 last week in fact which had a pretty crappy trigger on it at that time. I just installed a hiperfire 24c trigger on it that should have me shooting dime sized groups at 100 yards. I'll find out next week.
I like my .30 cal rifles but, in terms of fun, it's hard to beat the AR15 in 5.56mm.
This is a subject that, and of course you know, if you ask 100 people their opinion, you’ll get 1000 opinions.
I have over the years built up about a dozen custom AR uppers and designed each one with a specific calibre and purpose. I have the full gambits of scopes specific to those purposes, red dots to high power, with true 1x to various powers in the middle. I don’t go cheap on optics either. I wait until I can afford what I really want because I don’t want to pay for something that I wont be happy with.
For 25 yards you could easily get by with just a red dot. If you want flexibility to use on longer ranges, I recommend a true 1-4 power so you can have full field of view both eyes open in close and zoom out for the occasional 200-300 meter shot.
If you start with 4x or more, you wont like it for close in use. If your varmint hunting, 4x to 8x is great.
1x for each 100 yards is the rule of thumb. 1000 yards = 10x. An AR is going to be stretching to get out past 400 yards usefully. A 308 is decent out to 8-900 yards. If you are going to do extended range, beyond 1000 yards, you need something bigger.
Anyway, that’s my 2 cents.
FRegards :)
It’s a lot of scope for the money.
I recommend this thread in particular.
It reviews many scopes (not red dots) and has a very nice comparison table up front. You can go down this rabbit hole about as far as you want...:)
I wasn’t really asking what the best scope was. I was asking if anyone here remembered a thread from 1-2 months ago that had a picture of an AR scope for around $500.00 that looked kind of like an AGOC, maybe a little longer, though.
Thanks. I’ll check it out.
The ACOG has been well-proven in combat by our armed forces and the Israelis' so it's a natural choice. Luckily, I don't need two of them!
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