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AR-15 .223/556 scope question
Me | 4-27-15 | RandallFlagg

Posted on 04/27/2015 11:55:26 PM PDT by RandallFlagg

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To: RandallFlagg

Understood, as there is no single “best scope”. Anyway, good luck with your search.


41 posted on 04/28/2015 1:13:34 PM PDT by Magnum44 (I have had just about enough)
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To: Magnum44

Thank you, FRiend.


42 posted on 04/28/2015 1:25:25 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: RandallFlagg

I’m still looking too. Haven’t decided.


43 posted on 04/28/2015 1:45:56 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eagles6
Show me yours and I'll show you mine...

44 posted on 04/28/2015 1:54:58 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: Charles Martel

Vortex Strikefire.


45 posted on 04/28/2015 2:58:29 PM PDT by mylife ("The roar of the masses could be farts")
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I think I found it:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LVGXF54/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1GXU3A18OSYP9&coliid=I3TSLN8UNRJAHL

Anyone have any experience with this scope?


46 posted on 04/28/2015 3:53:49 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: Chainmail
When you go into combat, it will serve you well, I'm sure. For me, my optics work much better for shooting tiny little shot groups at the rifle range however which is what I primarily find myself doing.

If I needed to use them in combat, which seems pretty unlikely, I would be perfectly comfortable with either the AR Mod 1 or the Viper PST. I also have a top end tactical Nikon Monarch on an Armalite AR10T which I liked a lot initially but now I feel like it really needs a Vortex PST so I'll probably sell it at some point and switch out.

47 posted on 04/28/2015 3:57:42 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RandallFlagg

The Nikon P223 series is some fine AR Glass for the price.


48 posted on 04/28/2015 4:07:50 PM PDT by mylife ("The roar of the masses could be farts")
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To: RandallFlagg

Down side is they do not come with mounts.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_6_6?url=search-alias%3Dsporting&field-keywords=nikon%20p223&sprefix=Nikon+%2Csporting%2C193


49 posted on 04/28/2015 4:10:14 PM PDT by mylife ("The roar of the masses could be farts")
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To: RC one

Like you, I don’t think I’ll be doing anymore combat time (my last time was 48 years ago) and if I did, my sentimental favorite would me an M14..

But - what really is an AR-15 for? Plinking gophers? I would think that it’s a primary contingency weapon for close-in defense of your home and neighborhood. I.e., a combat weapon. Mine was out of the gun safe last night in case the Baltimore entertainment spread a few miles south.


50 posted on 04/28/2015 4:39:21 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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But - what really is an AR-15 for? Plinking gophers?

It's a highly adaptable all purpose modern sporting rifle. That adaptability is what makes it so popular I think. The purpose of this "modern sporting rifle" has been a topic of much discussion.

I would think that it’s a primary contingency weapon for close-in defense of your home and neighborhood. I.e., a combat weapon.

It is certainly capable of filling that role. It's capable of reaching out beyond "close in combat" distances too.

Mine was out of the gun safe last night in case the Baltimore entertainment spread a few miles south.

The rifle and scope you have chosen would certainly serve you well in that case. I typically prefer higher magnification variable power scopes. I just can't justify $1,300 for a fixed 4x power scope no matter how good it is, especially on rifles that I have built to shoot MOA or better, rifles designed to exploit chinks in the armor.

51 posted on 04/28/2015 5:20:24 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one

Four power or not, I have been very successful out to 300 m. More difficult to distinguish small targets but excellent field of view, good edge-to-edge sharpness, good low light capture, etc.

The main value of the ACOG is the “both eyes open” viewing and aiming technique that really improves fast acquisition of targets in all light.

The main advance that the ACOG in its Rifle Combat Optic (RCO) guise has dramatically improved combat effectiveness for the Marines and other forces that use it.

Consider too, resale: ACOGs routinely sell used for $800 and more. The other scopes rarely retain their value as well.


52 posted on 04/28/2015 6:39:38 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
I'm certainly not implying that it isn't a quality optic. It's just a lot of money for a scope that doesn't do precisely what I want my scope to do. It definitely has it place. Were I in the market for such a thing, I would look closely at it. I would also have to look closely at the Leupold HAMR which is nice because it has a rail that allows you to affix a reflex site to the top of the scope giving you both a medium range optic and a CQB optic.
53 posted on 04/28/2015 7:02:37 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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