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Winter is coming?
Toronto Sun ^ | Feb 21/15 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 02/21/2015 5:16:38 PM PST by Dartman

Forget global warming, it’s more likely we’re on the cusp of another Little Ice Age than of a warming Armageddon. The brutal winter that has hammered the U.S. Northeast, Atlantic Canada, Ontario and Quebec could become the norm in the Northern Hemisphere for the next 30 years if a growing number of solar physicists are right.

Our sun goes through very predictable 11-year cycles. The current one began in 2008 and is expected to produce among the fewest sunspots and most diminished solar radiation of any of the 24 cycles that have been carefully recorded by scientists going back nearly three centuries.

And Cycle 25, which will “peak” in 2022, is expected to be the weakest cycle since the 17th century, when the Earth last encountered such a feeble sun, our planet was plunged into the depths of what has become known as the Little Ice Age.

The sun-climate connection makes perfect sense; far more sense than the theory that a buildup of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is trapping solar radiation close to the Earth’s surface and dangerously warming the planet and changing our climate.

This is especially true because even according to the most devoted global-warming believers, a buildup of CO2 is not enough to trigger dangerous warming. Some other “forcing” factor is needed to push worldwide temperatures higher. But so far, no one knows with certainty what that factor might be. And given that global temperatures have not risen appreciably in 17 years, no forcing seems to be occurring.

Think about this: What makes daytime usually warmer than the night? Exposed spaces warmer than shady ones? Clear days warmer than cloudy ones and summer warmer than winter?

In every case, the answer is the sun.

The sun’s profound influence on Earth’s climate shouldn’t surprise anyone (although there are climate scientists who argue its influence is minimal). Sol has a mass more than 300,000 times that of Earth and a core temperature of around 15-million degrees Celsius.

And in galactic terms, the sun is just across the street.

Even small changes in the sun’s output are going to have profound influence on weather and crops on Earth, and on the advancement or retreat of glaciers, forests and deserts – perhaps even on trade, architecture, war, human population and the spread of disease.

A resting sun – the current downturn is being called a “solar lull” – should be of far greater concern than the chance (and it is only just a chance) that idling SUVs and flatulating cows will alter the atmosphere and, indirectly, increase the frequency and intensity of severe weather.

When we last witnessed a solar lull of similar magnitude (in the early decades of the 19th century), our planet had just finished a warming period not unlike that of the 20th century. The onset of what was known as the Dalton Minimum meant harsh, harsh winters in North America, Europe and Russia, along with some intense droughts and famines.

Some have even compared the slow cycles we are currently entering to the granddaddy of all solar lulls, the 17th century Maunder Minimum during which average Northern Hemispheric temperatures were nearly 2C below where they are now.

It seems unlikely temperatures will get as cold now as they did then, or for as long. In addition to greatly reduced solar activity, the 17th century also had more intense volcanic activity than any century since and more than any century dating back 1,000 years before it.

During the 1600s when the sun was weaker, there were also six “climatically significant eruptions” that expelled enough ash and particles to cause lower temps worldwide for a year or more – perhaps even for a decade in some cases.

Politicians and activists need to stop obsessing on manmade climate change and focus on what to do about three decades of COLD.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: coming; duplicate; globalcooling; searchwinter; winter
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This guy has written one of the most "common sense" explanations countering the "man made climate change" hoax I've read. Even the most low information leftie could comprehend most of this.
1 posted on 02/21/2015 5:16:38 PM PST by Dartman
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...although there are climate scientists who argue its influence is minimal.

And at least one faux climate scientist,the guy who would be called "Former President" today if he had only been able to carry his home state,is among them.

2 posted on 02/21/2015 5:24:05 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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To: Dartman

Greed for the almighty dollar has no boundaries. They’re grabbing at straws trying to find a way to tax every little bit that they can.


3 posted on 02/21/2015 5:24:13 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: Dartman

"You know our words."

4 posted on 02/21/2015 5:25:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.)
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To: Dartman

Winters are getting worse each year. At least on this side of the Rockies.


5 posted on 02/21/2015 5:32:55 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The sun is in a cooling phase...sunspots are decreasing. It has nothing to do with greenhouse gasses or anthropomorphic fabrication.


6 posted on 02/21/2015 5:36:59 PM PST by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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To: Dartman
What climate theory best fits in with a political theory that would have a tiny pct. of the world's population control everybody and everything, establish an all-powerful, one-world government with totalitarian rules with 99% of the world's population living in huge cities, tiny apartments and restricted travel, and hates free-market capitalism?

What climate theory fits with the belief that man has little input as far as climate changes, man should be as free from government control as possible, and that free-market capitalism has changed the lives of the growing billions of the earth's residents for the better?

7 posted on 02/21/2015 5:39:33 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Dartman

One reason people are moving away from the Rockies (another reason being the legalized dope).


8 posted on 02/21/2015 5:40:12 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Politicians and activists need to stop obsessing on manmade climate change and focus on what to do about three decades of COLD.

Maybe they want people to freeze to death.

9 posted on 02/21/2015 5:46:44 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dartman

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3260054/posts


10 posted on 02/21/2015 5:50:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: Dartman

Read Twilight of Abundance.


11 posted on 02/21/2015 5:50:05 PM PST by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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Sooooo I am guessing, go long on energy stocks and short great lakes shipping?


12 posted on 02/21/2015 5:50:38 PM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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“Winter is icumen in.” Ezra Pound
13 posted on 02/21/2015 5:52:41 PM PST by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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The last two winters in the Northeast have been the worst in my lifetime. And I've been following winters since the 1970s.

Unrelenting cold. Used o be we would get our cold spells but always have a winter thaw or two where temps got into 40s and 50s. Bu here in New England, it hasn't been much above freezing in nearly two months.

The Great Lakes are pretty much completely freezing over. There was still ice in the Great Lakes until July of last year. This year, we may see some ice through the entire summer.

This is how ice ages start.

14 posted on 02/21/2015 5:58:19 PM PST by SamAdams76
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Global warming is a hoax that democrats invented to grow socialism. All democrats want a socialist “utopia” where every individual has no rights , no freedom , and can own no property. This is why they take over the healthcare system and create hoaxes and take over the media . they need to control every individual to create their socialist utopia which is just slavery and a hell like Cuba, Venezuela , USSR ,etc.
15 posted on 02/21/2015 6:04:05 PM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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To: Dartman

Paul Newman was in a movie called quintet that took place in a future ice age. made sometime around 1980


16 posted on 02/21/2015 6:30:10 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Dartman

hey, the crime rates should go down in the north.


17 posted on 02/21/2015 6:44:15 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Dartman

There was a book in the early ‘70’s called ‘Ice Age’, that talked of this.

Remember ‘globalchange’ is all about YOUR money, and YOUR freedom.


18 posted on 02/21/2015 7:02:50 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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Maybe they want people to freeze to death.

Bingo.......Obama and his buddy Bill Ayers want to kill off an estimated 23 millions that are expected to fail "re-education 101"

Shutting down coal and nuclear electricity plants, restricting oil drilling and relying on solar and wind electricity is a recipe for disaster when global cooling kicks in.

estimated by 2020 no more sunspots available


19 posted on 02/21/2015 7:41:23 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: OneWingedShark
Politicians and activists need to stop obsessing on manmade climate change and focus on what to do about three decades of COLD.

I think you are a little on the optimistic side....

....more like 3 centuries.

20 posted on 02/21/2015 7:47:00 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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