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Viking Gainsborough: Former capital promotes Sweyn Forkbeard links
http://www.bbc.com ^ | 25 December 2014 | unknown

Posted on 12/27/2014 9:35:55 AM PST by Beowulf9

A town that was briefly capital of England is looking to make more of its links with a Viking king who ruled for just 40 days.

Sweyn Forkbeard, the nation's shortest reigning monarch, began his rule on Christmas Day, 1001 years ago in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.

Officials want to twin the town with Sweyn's birthplace of Roskilde, Denmark and stage a festival.

They also hope to mark his death with a re-enactment of a Viking burial.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: canute; cnut; cnutthegreat; denmark; england; funeral; godsgravesglyphs; haraldbluetooth; roskilde; sweynforkbeard; thevikings; unitedkingdom; vikings
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1 posted on 12/27/2014 9:35:55 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Gee, I knew they said 1066 was the last successful foreign invasion of England, I just didn’t realize it happened so often before that


2 posted on 12/27/2014 9:55:43 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: Beowulf9; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Beowulf9.

3 posted on 12/27/2014 9:56:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: aynrandfreak

It’s also not true. Most recently William and Mary were invited in by Parliament to overthrow James II (VIIth of Scotland) who was trying to revive Catholicism. Since they had to raise an army outside and land by ship, still counts.


4 posted on 12/27/2014 9:57:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Beowulf9

Give me you spam, I love it!


5 posted on 12/27/2014 10:06:30 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: SunkenCiv
.....who was trying to revive Catholicism....

A base canard. Jimmy was protestant enough for any reasonable man. It's just that he was perhaps a bit overly fond of ceremony.

He was definitely opposed by the sort of non-conforming teetotaling bluenose bible-beating bunko artists who would throw us all in jail for celebrating ...gasp ...Christmas!

I must get to church now. The snakes get kind of rasty if they ain't fed reglar.

6 posted on 12/27/2014 10:12:01 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, it’s not true, lol.


7 posted on 12/27/2014 10:17:06 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9
They also hope to mark his death with a re-enactment of a Viking burial.

I always thought the Viking tradition was to build a replica longship, put the corpse aboard, set it afire and shove it off.

8 posted on 12/27/2014 10:18:41 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

One longs for the day when a bunch of Vikings might get together, build a replica of the Queen Mary, and cruise to Bermuda.


9 posted on 12/27/2014 10:30:30 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: Beowulf9
Officials want to twin the town with Sweyn's birthplace of Roskilde, Denmark and stage a festival.

They also hope to mark his death with a re-enactment of a Viking burial.

Seems rather inappropriate since Sweyn himself did not have a Viking burial.

After his death, Sweyn Forkbeard was taken to York, before being taken back to his Danish birthplace for burial. He is said to have been laid to rest in a wooden church on the site of Roskilde Cathedral

10 posted on 12/27/2014 10:51:14 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“He was definitely opposed by the sort of non-conforming teetotaling bluenose bible-beating bunko artists who would throw us all in jail for celebrating ...gasp ...Christmas! “

Those would be your yankee Puritan neighbors in Massachusetts. Christmas was routinely celebrated in Virginia and other points south.


11 posted on 12/27/2014 10:55:14 AM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: SunkenCiv
William and Mary were invited in by Parliament

Not exactly. They were invited by the Immortal Seven politicians, six nobles and a bishop.

They were of course representative of a lot more people, in Parliament and the nation.

William landed in November, but wasn't proclaimed King by Parliament (one that may not have been strictly legal, at that) until late in February.

12 posted on 12/27/2014 11:12:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Kenny Bunk

James was indisputably and openly a Catholic. Your remarks apply to his Dad, Charles I, who was devoutly Anglican.

James converted to Catholicism in 1868, though it wasn’t made public till 1673.

His children were raised Protestant.

When this openly Catholic king came to the throne in 1685, Protestant Englishmen were willing to put up with rule by a Catholic, since James was to spring chicken and would be succeeded by one of his Protestant daughters.

Then James’ second wife had a son, who became heir over his much older sisters. This brought the prospect of a Catholic dynasty, not just a Catholic king. The Glorious Revolution sonn followed.

The GR is very nearly unknown in this country, which is kind of odd. The American Revolution was fought to protect the rights Englishment gained in the GR. Our Bill of Rights is obviously patterned on the English version of 1689.


13 posted on 12/27/2014 11:22:10 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Pontiac

My best friend’s last name is Rosenkilde.


14 posted on 12/27/2014 11:37:24 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Rosen-kilde

Jewish Viking?

;)

15 posted on 12/27/2014 11:47:39 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Nope. Danish Lutherans ( in the old country).


16 posted on 12/27/2014 12:11:49 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Sherman Logan; Kenny Bunk

Thanks!


17 posted on 12/27/2014 12:45:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: JimRed; Pontiac

Pursuant to what Pontiac wrote, I think there was a fairly recent story about the excavation of Sveyn’s capital in Denmark, could be way off though.

The Viking burials in the pagan era consisted of ship burials, either an actual ship with grave goods and the body (and generally one or more servants, made dead for the occasion), and the outline of the ship laid in basically megalithic slabs, then covered with a burial mound. The Christian Viking kings took to much simpler burials in churches and churchyards.

Here’s the sole documented Viking king pyre:

http://thornews.com/2012/05/12/a-viking-burial-described-by-arab-writer-ahmad-ibn-fadlan/


18 posted on 12/27/2014 12:50:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Pontiac; SoCal Pubbie

Don’t even *ask* how they do the circumcisions...


19 posted on 12/27/2014 12:54:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Sweyn Forkbeard: England’s forgotten Viking king
BBC News | David McKenna
Posted on 12/30/2013 6:09:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3106763/posts
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-25341754

possible royal burial at Roskilde Cathedral:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71586000/jpg/_71586203_foto.jpg

Bluetooth’s 970 AD monument commemorating conversion of Denmark to Christianity:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71708000/jpg/_71708531_71708530.jpg


20 posted on 12/27/2014 1:01:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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