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Rachel Maddow says Obama's proposed immigration move on 'same scale' as action by George H.W. Bush
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 11-20-2014 | Jon Greenburg

Posted on 11/20/2014 5:55:14 PM PST by murron

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To: MtnClimber

While I am at it, I GIVE to the illegals 0bama’s daughters and give them all the posessions of all democRATS in this country.


21 posted on 11/20/2014 6:29:37 PM PST by MtnClimber (Take a look at my FR home page for Colorado outdoor photos!)
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To: murron

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/11/reagan-and-bush-41-provide-no-precedent-for-obamas-amnesty-by-executive-order.php


22 posted on 11/20/2014 6:30:02 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 4rcane

Not exactly. The article’s rating of True is based on the theory that about 40% of illegal aliens were affected.

This doesn’t seem to me to be the primary meaning of scale in this case. That would be total number affected, in which the Obama situation is 2x to 3x larger.


23 posted on 11/20/2014 6:30:27 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: murron

No. Maddow is a Gruber.

She knows it’s a lie she’s just too stupid to care so she repeats it for the ignorant that don’t know it’s a lie and have no interest in finding out.


24 posted on 11/20/2014 6:47:19 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: murron
Its a lie.

Who cares what Maddow says, no one is tuning in

25 posted on 11/20/2014 6:51:29 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: murron

There is no comparison with this and what Bush and Reagan did. They granted amnesty to the minor children of immigrants who had been given amnesty through a law passed by Congress. They were acting with Congress not against the wishes of Congress (and the majority of the American people). Amnesty to such children is now the law. Plus it gave amnesty to hundreds of thousands, not millions of people. Obama is simply trying to bypass Congress completely,


26 posted on 11/20/2014 6:52:14 PM PST by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: murron

I had no idea that anyone took Rachel Maddow seriously...


27 posted on 11/20/2014 7:22:55 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: murron

Thanks, to everyone, for you help. Not only was I able to hush up the liberal I was debating, but I got an education as well.


28 posted on 11/20/2014 8:24:20 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: murron

only about 140,000 took advantage of that offer.


29 posted on 11/20/2014 8:27:06 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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In 1990, President George H. W. Bush, a Republican, by executive action forestalled deportations for about 1.5 million illegal immigrants.

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Internet and World Wide Web: Obviously they did not exist in 1986 and 1990 as we know it today.

1. So Maddow conveniently forgets to mention that the World Wide Web and sites like Facebook and Twitter did not exist back in Reagan's and Bush's time.

2. My point is this: If the millions of computers that exist today also existed way back then in 1986 and 1990, along with sites like Facebook and Twitter, Reagan and Bush may have also been highly criticized for their executive orders concerning illegal immigration.

3. In fact, MSNBC did not exist back then because cable tv was still working to get off the ground as millions of homes still did not have access to cable tv as we know it today.

4. Since MSNBC did not exist way back then, it means that Maddow would not be working there back then. Sarcasm.

5. In fact, since Reagan and Bush were Republicans, Maddow, if she was on tv at the time, would probably be severely criticizing both of them for their unconstitutional executive orders back in 1986 and 1990.

6. Maddow conveniently forgets this: A lot us were not happy with the 1986 Reagan immigration bill, but we were told that this bill would solve all our immigration problems forever and we could all then walk into the sunset and live happily after, so we reluctantly went along with the bill. How wrong we were, as we all know.

7. My point is this: If we knew then what we know now about how wrong Reagan's bill was, and we had the World Wild Web to voice our complaints about the Reagan bill, maybe we could have forced Reagan to not sign the 1986 immigration bill and any executive order that followed.

8. Maddow conveniently forgot to talk about this also: The United States was far different back in 1986 than it is today in 2014, and people were more relaxed then.

9. For instance, if one could go back in time, the California of 1986 would be barely recognizable as we compare it to the California of 2014, because illegal immigration, mostly from Latin America, has changed California forever.

10. Also,Southern states such as North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, and Tennessee were not fighting an illegal immigrants invasion like they are today in 2014.

11. So, Maddow, it may appear to you that Obama is simply doing what Reagan did in 1986 and Bush did in 1990.

12. But in reality, the United States---with the explosion of the Internet since 1986 and the suffocating illegal immigration from the south---is so different from Reagan's 1986 and Bush's 1990 that comparing Reagan's and Bush;s immigration executive orders to Obama's executive order tonight is not only wrong, it is absurd, and because 1986 was so long ago in dog years, it is like comparing apples and oranges.

13. So Maddow, Obama's executive order must stand on its own merits. But the more we look at it, the more we realize that Obama is wrong, and his action goes against everything America holds dear. He is abusing the power of the Presidency. No doubt about it.

30 posted on 11/20/2014 10:54:49 PM PST by john mirse
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