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Apple loses China patent case, separate suit against Apple continues
Reuters ^ | July 9 Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:27am EDT

Posted on 07/09/2014 11:09:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker

(Reuters) - A Beijing court has ruled against Apple Inc by upholding the validity of a patent held by a Chinese company, clearing the way for the Chinese company to continue its own case against Apple for infringing intellectual property rights.

Apple had taken Shanghai-based Zhizhen Internet Technology and China's State Intellectual Property Office to court to seek a ruling that Zhizhen's patent rights to a speech recognition technology were invalid.

But the Beijing First Intermediate Court on Tuesday decided in Zhizhen's favour, the People's Daily state newspaper reported on Wednesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; china; communism; redchina
Apple has been working on Speech recognition since 1991 and has licensed parts of SIRI from companies with patents going back farther than anything in the Chinese patent claims. . . but these are Chinese courts and Chinese patents. Pass the popcorn.
1 posted on 07/09/2014 11:09:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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Apple loses Speech recognition patent infringement case in China involving Siri — PING!


Apple patent infringement loss Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 07/09/2014 11:12:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Beijing courts are going to be very very biased against foreign companies and they love domestic counterfeiters I bet.


3 posted on 07/09/2014 11:18:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Swordmaker

Thieves


4 posted on 07/09/2014 11:29:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, and that’s a genuine Louis Vuitton. ..


5 posted on 07/09/2014 11:30:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

lol


6 posted on 07/09/2014 11:34:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

He’ll yeah. Two 8 hour shifts to make your products and one 8 hour shift to run the clones.


7 posted on 07/09/2014 11:46:37 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: GeronL

And unlike our courts and Government they look out for whats in the best interest of their country.


8 posted on 07/09/2014 11:56:49 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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“And unlike our courts and Government they look out for whats in the best interest of their country”

or they get shot


9 posted on 07/10/2014 1:18:10 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Swordmaker

Apple builds their phones there. Stupid idiots didn’t think the Chinese would steal from them?

Glad they saved on manufacturing costs.


10 posted on 07/10/2014 2:06:50 AM PDT by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: Swordmaker
Wow! That is really, really, funny...the Chinese actually making a ruling on intellectual property with a straight face!

That is much the way I envision liberals tut-tutting the concept of corruption in elections...they all smirk at each other and are in on the joke, enjoying it as such.

11 posted on 07/10/2014 2:29:04 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Swordmaker

You free trade with the Communists...you get ripped off by the Communists

Should have kept the process in America, where we protect such patent and product

No sympathy for a company that pushes free trade and Economic Anti Americanism


12 posted on 07/10/2014 2:42:59 AM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour rather work for drug cartels than Americans)
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To: Swordmaker

USBusiness I dealt with just closed down. They took their molds for product for production in China and the partner factory basically just stole the molds and told them they would not produce product for them.


13 posted on 07/10/2014 2:45:04 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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"Beijing courts are going to be very very biased against foreign companies and they love domestic counterfeiters I bet."

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas...

A.K.A. Karma's a bitch...

14 posted on 07/10/2014 2:51:06 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: antceecee

Same thing happened with a company I was with. A proprietary and unique production process was outsourced to a Chinese company. The US engineers set it up, there was a written agreement protecting the intellectual property as well as guaranteeing the US supplier of the patented specialized production machinery would outfit the factory.

The equipment order never came. The Chinese factory used the training machines to knock off the patented production machine and quickly produced hundreds of the machines. When we complained, they canceled our orders and discontinued doing business with our company. Within 10 months the factory was full producing product for a competitor using our process. My company learned the lesson there is no intellectual property or contact law enforcement in China for foreign companies. Of course the US government was no help and our Congress critter who voted 100% for free trade legislation had nothing to say.

This is the reality of free trade. However academics, politicians, Wall Street bankers, and corporate executives keep telling us a free trade policy will bring us economic prosperity. All we need is a few more “free trade” agreements like the one Obama is currently negotiating with Europe.. After 25 years I’m still waiting for the prosperity promised by the free trade lobby. No doubt millions of unemployed American citizens who would like to have the factory jobs exported to Asia are getting tired of waiting.


15 posted on 07/10/2014 3:53:35 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Swordmaker

An American company loses in a Chinese court.

Wow...never saw that coming.


16 posted on 07/10/2014 6:46:42 AM PDT by moovova
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Time for Apple to pull all their production out of China.


17 posted on 07/10/2014 6:48:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“Two 8 hour shifts to make your products and one 8 hour shift to run the clones.”

Same thing happened to American furniture manufacturers. Thought they could save money by producing their goods in China. The joke was on them.


18 posted on 07/10/2014 6:51:02 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Soul of the South

I represent a few USA companies and proud to do so. One from Spain.


19 posted on 07/11/2014 11:56:09 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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