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Linux Ubuntu question for my older windows laptop.
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Posted on 04/06/2014 1:04:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg

I got an older Compaq Presario Laptop and I've been toying with the idea of putting Ubuntu on it. I was wondering if I would need to totally wipe the HD to get Ubuntu to run properly or can I install it while leaving Windows 7 on and it will still run OK.

I am going to get a new laptop eventually but am in no hurry so it would be nice to still keep windows But I can manage for now without it being I use my Entertainment System Computer most of the time.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions and tips.


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KEYWORDS: linux; ubuntu; windows7
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Oh and are there some versions better than others? I just want Ubuntu to use "open office" and a bit of internet surfing.
1 posted on 04/06/2014 1:04:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg

One way to dual boot is to use Linux (Mint, for instance) on a USB Flash drive.

FYI, I completely overwrote XP with Mint on my FIL’s laptop and it works fine. I stopped trying to get it to connect to the printer, however. He never prints anyway.


2 posted on 04/06/2014 1:10:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Get Wubi.

It will install Ubuntu along side your Windows and modify the boot.ini file so you have a choice of operating system at startup.

You will need about 5gb of free space to do this...though more is better.

Be sure to backup all data you can't afford to lose. An image od yor current drive is best. That way you can restore it back if something goes wrong. But it won't.

3 posted on 04/06/2014 1:10:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Ubuntu is no longer the best choice for an older laptop. I really like http://crunchbang.org/
4 posted on 04/06/2014 1:10:56 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Of course, od yor=of your.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 1:11:45 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Wubi is like strapping a Ferrari to the top of your Cobalt and making VROOM noises. :-)


6 posted on 04/06/2014 1:12:02 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Mad Dawgg

should not be a problem I duel boot with mint. Although I’m never in windows.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 1:12:19 PM PDT by sopwith (LIVE FREE OR DIE)
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To: Mad Dawgg

If that is all you are doing, consider the Mint distribution. It will look and feel a lot like XP. http://www.linuxmint.com/

Under the concept of try before you buy (or commit), I would run from a liveCD first. If you like it, you may be able to install as a USB or dual boot on your laptop hard drive if you have enough room.


8 posted on 04/06/2014 1:15:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: gura

Yeah...but it’s an option for the people who don’t want to lose Winders and aren’t up to the task of doing a dual boot partitioning and install of Ubuntu. Ease of use does have its price.


9 posted on 04/06/2014 1:16:12 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Ubuntu says you can keep Win 7 but I have doubts


10 posted on 04/06/2014 1:18:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

M4LwhenXPdies


11 posted on 04/06/2014 1:18:43 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; martin_fierro; ShadowAce

from Mad Dawgg.


12 posted on 04/06/2014 1:19:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I recommend Linux Mint. The installation process will leave windows on if you want and take care of the partitioning.


13 posted on 04/06/2014 1:23:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: gura
Pretty happy with it on my Dell Insp E1505. It is completely compatible and this laptop would have ended up in the trash if it weren't for Ubuntu. Had failing XP before.

I use it mostly for web browsing and some minor network and occasional open office work.

14 posted on 04/06/2014 1:27:35 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Mad Dawgg

It is possible to install Ubuntu on a machine that already has Windows on it (dual-booting), but the difficulty is in making the space available for the linux partition.

I read that the Windows disk management can handle shrinking the Windows partition in order to make room for Linux.

This article explains how to do it with Windows 7 Disk Management.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/gg309169.aspx

Here is an article about how to install Win 7 and Ubuntu side by side.

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-ubuntu.html

Although the article recommends using linux’s GPARTED, I would avoid using a linux tool because I consider Microsoft’s own tool to be safer.

If all you’re looking for is Open Office and websurfing, probably 20 GB should be sufficient for a partition size, but if you have more that you don’t mind Windows 7 losing it.

I would recommend that you do a full backup of the computer before attempting the disk shrinking and Ubuntu install. I generally would trust Windows and Ubuntu to play nice together, but you never know how things work out.

While installing Ubuntu, avoid using full disk encryption. I had that backfire on me once before and lost a linux machine when the private key got corrupted.

The Ubuntu disk manager on the installer should be able to detect the Windows 7 partition and give you the option to wipe or install on the now vacant partition.

In the installer, you can tell GRUB (the linux booter) to make Windows 7 available as a boot option. Linux has to be in control of the boot options.

Ubuntu is probably the best version of linux to use if you’re new to linux. I’ve been using linux since 1993, and even as a pro, I would use it.

And let me reiterate: make a good backup.

Good luck!


15 posted on 04/06/2014 1:30:03 PM PDT by thmiley (Penguin lust! Nothing but urges from hell!)
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To: thmiley

For a desk top, I’d just buy a second drive. Of course, that isn’t as easy for a laptop.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 1:41:28 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Mad Dawgg

If you put Ubuntu on a windows machine the two versions will engage in a death match with each other until all that remains is a molten bubbling ooze of former plastic computer molecules.


17 posted on 04/06/2014 1:42:41 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: dhs12345; All

Just go get a 64+GB USB stick and run everything from it.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 1:44:23 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I’d recommend something a little more lean than Ubuntu for older machines. I played with several distros several years ago, and I found Ubuntu as much of a resource hog as MS Windows.

If it’s a really old machine, you might try Puppy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_Linux


19 posted on 04/06/2014 1:44:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: gura

Good idea. Although, I wonder about the reliability of flash media.

A lot of laptops use flash drives versus disk drives. Means less power but how does the failure rate compare?


20 posted on 04/06/2014 2:07:50 PM PDT by dhs12345
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