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If All Those State Secession Movements Got Their Way, America Would Look Like This Map
New Republic ^ | 10-17-13 | Nate Cohn

Posted on 10/19/2013 2:00:09 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

The electoral map divides the country neatly into blue states and red states. But blue states include vast conservative stretches; and most red states harbor liberal enclaves, too. In recent years, as partisan polarization has grown, some political minorities in these disaffected areas have proposed a radical solution: state partition.

It has happened before. Maine, for instance, was once part of Massachusetts. And while none of the current movements really has a shot, the eleven instances mapped here (including that to grant the District of Columbia statehood) have at least attracted the support of elected officials.

What would happen if all of them succeeded? Each new state would get two senators and its share of electoral college votes. We ran the numbers and recalculated the 2012 presidential race.

In this bizarro United States, the GOP would have a structural advantage in the expanded Senate, and Barack Obama would have had a tighter fight against Mitt Romney in the electoral college (which he won, in reality, 332–206).

If Republicans really want to screw with the electoral map, some argue they could break up Texas into five states according to the state’s terms of annexation. Democrats, meanwhile, can dream that Texas makes good on Governor Rick Perry’s threat to secede from the union altogether.

Total Electoral Votes1

Obama 310

Romney 247

Senate

Democrats 60 Republicans 62

Proposed Electoral Map



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1 posted on 10/19/2013 2:00:10 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: noprogs; ColdOne; KC_Lion; boxlunch; Jack Black; Nowhere Man
Secession and Anti-Secession Ping and Prayer list
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To be added or taken off this list, please send a FR mail to RKBA Democrat. DISCLOSURE: I'm ANTI-secession, but I'll attempt to administer the ping and prayer list fairly for seceshers, ejectors, and anti-seceshers of Good Will. Search the keyword "secessionlist" to see previous articles and pings.

2 posted on 10/19/2013 2:00:37 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Haha. I love how all of Illinois has seceded from Chicago.

I have a question for Illinois Freepers.
What would happen if Chicago had a financial meltdown like Detroit (not an unlikely prospect looking at the numbers)? What if Chicago experienced a Detroit-like exodus?
Would Illinois be the next West Virginia?


3 posted on 10/19/2013 2:03:01 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: RKBA Democrat

And if they didn’t have the Hispanic vote they would probably lose CA, CO, NM, and FL


4 posted on 10/19/2013 2:04:52 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Viennacon
Haha. I love how all of Illinois has seceded from Chicago.

Oh be still my beating heart! If only ...

5 posted on 10/19/2013 2:05:27 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

No rhyme nor reason to the map.

For instance, aside from Detroit, Michigan is solidly in GOP hands. It should actually look a lot more like Illinois on the map and probably redder.


6 posted on 10/19/2013 2:06:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Viennacon

I had no idea that there was such nice big red chunk in southwest Oregon Maybe that is where I should retire.


7 posted on 10/19/2013 2:06:38 PM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Michigan isn’t quite right. Either the Western side of Michigan would secede from the Easter side of the state or we’d try to secede from the cities.

Maybe we’d all just move to the U.P. Problem with that, after seeing the National Park shut down and maps of said shut down, is that there is LOTS of Federal land above the bridge.


8 posted on 10/19/2013 2:07:52 PM PDT by madison10
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To: RKBA Democrat

The U.P. of Michigan has never had a serious secessionist movement. It has always been more of a stunt like the Conch Republic, rather than a real movement.


9 posted on 10/19/2013 2:08:43 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: cripplecreek

Whoops, didn’t see your post. We agree on the secede from Detroit idea. :)


10 posted on 10/19/2013 2:09:35 PM PDT by madison10
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To: angry elephant

Yet Oregon still elects dirtbags like Merkley. If only there was some way to clean out the big cities in America.


11 posted on 10/19/2013 2:10:46 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
I went to pick up a gun from a dealer when I lived in northern NV. Don't know how we got on the subject but he whipped out a map that had a new state boundary through the middle of both Nevada and California. The California portion got Vegas and everything southwest of S.F. The northern part of California was attached to N. Nevada.

Looked good to me, I mean we can all dream, can't we.

12 posted on 10/19/2013 2:11:06 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Agreed. I don't like the way they drew the Flint to Tawas district. The sparsely populated northern half got sucked into a democrat district.

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13 posted on 10/19/2013 2:12:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RKBA Democrat
When did Cleveland and friends decide to leave Ohio? We'll be down to two pro football teams, the Bengals and the Buckeyes.
14 posted on 10/19/2013 2:13:02 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

You think the state of Jefferson would be a red state? Weed would probably be the capital of it.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 2:13:43 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: RKBA Democrat

Ideally, America would be divided so that all the concentrated Democrat parasite nests (”cities”) comprise one nation, and the rest of the country the other.


16 posted on 10/19/2013 2:13:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

If we got rid of Philly, Chicago, NYC and LA, Democrats would never win another national election.

It’s that simple.


17 posted on 10/19/2013 2:21:46 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Senator Cruz basically made the Democrats fight for a whole bunch of things that they already had.")
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To: RKBA Democrat

Let Mexico have “Baja Arizona.” White people can’t go into most of that area anyway (by order of Obastard’s DHS). The only city is Tucson, so the rest of AZ would turn bright red with only Flag and Tempe as bastions of liberal filth.


18 posted on 10/19/2013 2:27:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Lancey Howard

You are correct. Population density plays a much bigger role that we have accounted for.


19 posted on 10/19/2013 2:29:28 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: RKBA Democrat
GREAT!!! Stuck behind enemy lines! Well maybe I need to start thinking like a paratrooper!

Richard Winters: "We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded."
20 posted on 10/19/2013 2:30:23 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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