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"is mistakenly up for grabs again."

I'm sorry to yell but EVERYTHING IN SCIENCE IS ALWAYS UP FOR GRABS!
Nothing in science is permanent. That's not how science works.
Even the Law of Gravity is up for grabs if you can disprove it.
Once you decide something can never be disproven it ceases to be science and becomes faith. You believe it is absolutely true and no further discussion is necessary.

This may sound silly but Popular Science has literally turned to the dark side with this decision.

Popular Science:
We are the arbiters of truth.
People who question our positions are naught but trolls.
No unapproved ideas shall be distributed.
Shut off the light of truth.
"lively, intellectual debate" means discussing all the ways in which we are correct.

That's not called science; It's called Fascism.

1 posted on 09/25/2013 2:09:52 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Well, when facts interfere with what someone want to call science, then we have trouble.

Now science calls the earth flat and and wants me to be in shorts in 20 degree weather to support their theory of the warming of the earth.

While freezing, I am supposed to send money to Algore and support taxing every cowfart to make them rich.

I am just not that stupid, however, I know a hell of a lot of liberals that are. They can politely send their money and smile and think they did the right thing.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 2:17:08 PM PDT by bobo1 (L)
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To: servo1969

Excellent post! Many people, including “scientists,” seem to believe that science is a body of dogma, rather than a set of procedures for determining how reality works.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 2:22:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: servo1969

There is a 100% consensus of total agreement with global warming among everyone who matters. The deniers simply aren’t smart enough to know that global warming doesn’t necessarily mean warmer temperatures or more hurricanes. Sometimes it’s warmer, other times colder. Sometimes there are more hurricanes, sometimes less. The very fact that it can’t be predicted proves that global warming is out of control.


4 posted on 09/25/2013 2:23:18 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: servo1969

Foxnews, yahoo news, many are shutting off comments because the commentators disagreed with the articles. That is why I write to the editors and even webmasters.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 2:24:03 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: servo1969

I’ve noticed a considerable increase recently in name-calling and trolling in comments. Their sheer volume can overwhelm reasoned argument.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 2:37:04 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: servo1969
Some years back Popular Science's then new editor proudly announced in the magazine how it, meaning they, would immediately become proponents of scientific political “issues”. That issue of the magazine had numerous articles embracing Global Warming.

With Popular Science publicly drinking the Global Warming koolaid I, in turn, immediately canceled my subscription with comments to the effect that it no longer could legitimately justify including “Science” in its name.

Am not surprised that it can no longer tolerate reasoned comments.

8 posted on 09/25/2013 2:41:55 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: servo1969

Just a few hundred years ago, most scientists of the day refused to consider the notion that the earth might be round instead of flat.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 2:49:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: servo1969

They should change their name to Unpopular Unscience.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 2:52:17 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: servo1969

They should change their name to Unpopular Unscience.


11 posted on 09/25/2013 2:52:17 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: servo1969

They have long had problems with spam bots. They have also had problems with trolls - but who doesn’t. Regardless it seems ironic that a technology-oriented site (yes it’s more than that) would not be able to combat technology-oriented issues with better technology....


13 posted on 09/25/2013 2:57:22 PM PDT by Frapster (Clear the mechanism)
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To: servo1969
"What you do, if you are a serious scientist operating according to the established method, is attempt to falsify your hypothesis. Test it to destruction; carry out serious attacks on its weakest points to see if they hold up. If they do... then you have a theory that can be published, and tested, and verified by other scientists. If you don't, you throw it out."

Global Warming Fraud and the Future of Science - J. R. Dunn

The "scientists" who perpetrated the global warming scam approached their science in exactly the opposite manner as the approach described above. They formulated a theory based on political ideology (as well as the path of least resistance to "grant" money) and then did whatever they had to do with their data to "prove" it.

The world has now seen the complete unraveling of the "global warming" / "climate change" scam thanks to the diligent investigative work of honest scientists like those cited in the above story who quickly exposed the Marcotte fabrication, along with the leaked email dumps of November 2009 and November 2011 (and now even more recent dumps). The discipline of science has taken a massive hit over the past five-plus years and it could take decades for science - - and scientists - - to regain any credibility with the public.

A lot of that burden must fall on honest scientists, and the first and most important thing they need to do is scream for the heads of Michael Mann, Phil Jones, Shaun Marcott, and the rest of the greedy, lying "climategate" fraudsters. I guess we'll see if they have the integrity to do it.

I am most definitely NOT counting on a crap publication like 'Populist Science' to lead the way.

15 posted on 09/25/2013 3:40:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: servo1969
Bears repeating, emphatically :

Once you decide something can never be disproven it ceases to be science and becomes faith

17 posted on 09/25/2013 4:44:59 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: servo1969

Pop Sci turned into a liberal rag years ago. I read and enjoyed it for the first two or three decades of my life but thought Pop Mech had better plans and projects.

I gave up on both at least 20 years ago.

The vintage issues are the best.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 9:06:51 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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