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1 posted on 09/13/2013 10:43:45 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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We are going to die!


2 posted on 09/13/2013 10:45:17 PM PDT by doc1019
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Guess I’d better not make that reservation for dinner at the Red Lobster.


3 posted on 09/13/2013 10:47:02 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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This already happened. It resulted in unbrained bodies, like muslims and democrats.


4 posted on 09/13/2013 10:50:13 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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Indeed, any random event, no matter how unlikely, could happen, given enough time.

This is what atheists rely on and it is a fallacy as far as time as we know it exists. There are many scenarios which are required for our current universe which have smaller odds than being able to pick out a particular atom from the universe.

5 posted on 09/13/2013 10:53:35 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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We're not arguing that Boltzmann Brains exist — we're trying to avoid them

I agree with that......really....

6 posted on 09/13/2013 10:55:06 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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Colossians 1

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

So, I'm not worried.

7 posted on 09/13/2013 10:55:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Indeed, any random event, no matter how unlikely, could happen, given enough time.

Theoretically, yes, but the probability of some events occurring in certain ways at certain points in time, while technically not zero, is so minimal that it might as well be zero.

9 posted on 09/13/2013 11:06:06 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Boltzmann, incomprehensibly great genius though he was, had no concept of how old the universe was; cosmology did not exist in any serious, let alone quantitative way in the 19th century.

Consequently, the likelihood of Boltzmann brains, and other statistical horrors he envisioned are so low as to be zero for ALL practical purposes.

People like to point out the monkey typing randomly for an infinite amount of time producing all the works of Shakespeare as an example of just what bizarre consequences randomly occurring events can produce without exploring the practical consequences of this thought experiment, but doing so puts you in touch with how large infinity is.

For example, under some reasonable assumptions about how fast he types, the monkey will produce many English phrases, including all the works of Shakespeare, in fact every book ever written, including every version of the Bible after a very long time. Before he types out the complete works of Shakespeare in order, he will have repeated many lines from Shakespeare over and over, many times.

How long does it take him to type just the first recognizable sentence of twelve words or longer from Shakespeare? I believe the estimate we came up with in my first graduate class in statistical mechanics was 10^48 years. Compare this to ~10^13 years for the age of the universe. That's right. Our universe, and the next universe after ours, and so on and so on, could consecutively be born and die more than Avagadro's number of times before he types just ONE moderately long sentence.

In mathematical terms, 10^48 is closer to zero than it is to infinity. "A LOT" closer.

You won't be seeing Boltzmann brains popping up anytime soon...

10 posted on 09/13/2013 11:06:17 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The only good public school administrator ...)
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I’m all for science and exploration, but stories like this remind me of Romans 1:22: “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.”


11 posted on 09/13/2013 11:18:13 PM PDT by Ackackadack
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Really? And they thought I was crazy.


12 posted on 09/13/2013 11:26:57 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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So because we don’t know, the universe is going to end.

Anybody have a way to get off this planet? “Educated scientists” often strike me as the most stupid people alive today.


15 posted on 09/14/2013 12:08:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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Interesting that this is a physical mechanism for the universe as we know it to just completely disappear at any time, perhaps in favor of what caused it and is not contained within it.

All throughout my life, the blanks in science and society separating us from the events of the Book of Revelation have been filling in unremittingly. Much of what was presumed to require miracles at one time could have been designed in from the beginning or has appeared with advances in technology or changes in the world.


16 posted on 09/14/2013 12:10:39 AM PDT by InMemoriam (Have a seat over there, Mr. Mohammed. Aisha, go play on your swingset, honey.)
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I laugh when some idiot prognosticates 10 billion years into the future or past..
I wonder if they can balance their checkbook..

Science fiction MUST be logical... else whats the point..
Reality need not be logical at all.. reality can do whatever it damn well pleases..


18 posted on 09/14/2013 12:38:14 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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First of all, none of your opinions matter because you are just figments of my Boltzmann brain.

Secondly, even Boltzmann brains have to strain to come up with the concept of bubbles in the vacuum of space.

Thirdly, physicists could not get financing for their very expensive equipment if they didn’t get articles like this published to capture the public’s imagination. Your equipment must be quick to study the quirks of quarks.


19 posted on 09/14/2013 1:52:58 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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I have 10 bucks on the “over.”

But I want to hold the money.


20 posted on 09/14/2013 3:42:29 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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Protons and neutrons are made up of the lightest and most stable flavors of quark: the up quark and down quark. The heaviest and most unstable flavor of quark is the top quark, which current experiments suggest is about 184 times heavier than the proton.

What a coincidence, me and a buddy were arguing this very subject the other evening during happy hour.....

21 posted on 09/14/2013 3:51:29 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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a room full of monkeys randomly hitting keys on typewriters could eventually come up with the complete works of Shakespeare.

Substitute a bunch of supercomputers constructed of ASIC chips for the monkeys and you have the NSA trying to brute force a long encryption key.

27 posted on 09/14/2013 5:12:52 AM PDT by Bobalu (Bobo the Wonder Marxist leads Operation Rodeo Clown against Syria)
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monkeys randomly hitting keys on typewriters

Pretty much describes FR

28 posted on 09/14/2013 5:21:51 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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What complete rubbish! The universe does not depend on humans’ ways of measuring it! The universe is what it is no matter what people think of it and whether it conforms to people’s expectations about it or not.

I don’t expect much intelligence from a pop science mag, but this is really stupid. They will risk their reputation just to get ‘doomsday’ in the headline.

“randomly materialize into existence. “
If a scientist can’t see the absurdity of that statement, then he or she is not fit to be a scientist.


29 posted on 09/14/2013 5:26:01 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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The universe may end in another 10 billion years or sooner

CRAP! I'm going to have to reschedule a lot of appointments in Outlook!

30 posted on 09/14/2013 5:27:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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