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Were you born to be obese?
Webmd.com ^ | 08/01/13 | Kathleen Doheny

Posted on 08/08/2013 9:04:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX

"From previous studies, it is estimated that 40% to 70% of a person's BMI is inherited," Batterham says, but it's complex and not as simple as just giving a percent.

Overall, the role of any single gene [in obesity] is not big, Qi says. However, if all the obesity-related genes are considered, “the effect would be sizable."

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: bmi; genetics; health; obesity
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1 posted on 08/08/2013 9:04:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: neverdem

I don’t know whether this article is helpful or depressing.


2 posted on 08/08/2013 9:05:22 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Huh. And all this time I thought I was too heavy because I ate too much and didn’t exercise enough...


3 posted on 08/08/2013 9:10:33 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Pining_4_TX
It would be retarddit to fink ofverwise Sir...


4 posted on 08/08/2013 9:11:06 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Bull. People are obese because the eat too much are too inactive. This is not brain surgery, people.


5 posted on 08/08/2013 9:12:32 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

“It’s my metabolism!”

That’s right...
Your metabolism can’t handle all the cheeseburgers you are shoveling through it.


6 posted on 08/08/2013 9:14:43 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 3Fingas

Did you even read the article?

Sit at a mall sometime and observe groups of people. Families tend to look alike. Very thin people tend to have certain characteristics. Fat people tend to have certain physical characteristics (beyond their weight, I mean).

When you look at all the different sizes and shapes of people, why is it so difficult to believe that weight is greatly influenced by genetics? I would submit it is because society hates fat people so much, that it is unwilling to entertain anything other than some failure on the part of the obese. I suppose no amount of science will change anyone’s mind.

BTW, I am curious. Have you ever dieted to lose weight or thought you had a weight problem?


7 posted on 08/08/2013 9:15:52 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX; Revolting cat!
"BABY, I WAS BORN THIS WAY!"


8 posted on 08/08/2013 9:21:44 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Pining_4_TX; All

My entire family speaks of the “curse,” since the vast majority of us are prone to putting on weight. Though my cousin is a bodybuilder, and my father and I possess “neanderthal strength,” due to our natural builds. (Though we’re not very tall. I’m taller than my father at 5’7.) In the police force he was known as “mad dog,” though I’m so mild I never acquired such a name. Though I do LOOK like a bulldog, or perhaps a friendly gorilla.

Some people are just made to carry weight, and to gain weight, but it can certainly be overcome through proper dieting and exercise.


9 posted on 08/08/2013 9:27:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Pining_4_TX

I’ve got a little obesity in my jeans.


10 posted on 08/08/2013 9:29:09 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

A few people manage to lose a lot of weight and keep it off. Many are on file at the National Weight Loss Registry. When you look at how these people lost weight and maintain the loss, it involves quite a lot of exercise and pretty drastic food restriction (about 1200 to 1400 calories a day pretty much forever). I would love for those who say it’s a simple deal to try it for a couple of weeks, let alone for years.

Most people can change their weight to a small degree but often have trouble maintaining that loss. They find that they have to continually decrease their caloric intake, and still sometimes they start re-gaining weight because their bodies become quite thrifty about burning calories.

There is an old book on setpoint called The Dieter’s Dilemma: Eating Less and Weighing More by William Bennett and Joel Gurin.


11 posted on 08/08/2013 9:35:31 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: pallis

Ha, ha, many people seem to have that problem. ;-)


12 posted on 08/08/2013 9:36:14 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Born to be faaat!


13 posted on 08/08/2013 9:37:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: mylife; shibumi

If only they’d find a cure for short....:-\


14 posted on 08/08/2013 9:37:15 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Salamander
We call it vertically impaired!!


15 posted on 08/08/2013 9:43:48 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Attitudinally disenfranchised...:)


16 posted on 08/08/2013 9:55:13 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I’m 5’11” and about 170-180. Yet I got a letter from my doctor saying I might be ‘overweight or obese’.


17 posted on 08/08/2013 9:55:34 PM PDT by real saxophonist (If something is TRULY 'common sense', then a law about it is unnecessary.)
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To: real saxophonist

Well, that’s another thing. They keep lowering the numbers that they claim make someone overweight or obese. Since most people gain weight as they age, and we are an aging society, pretty soon most of us will be lumped into those categories.

If your doctor gives you a hard time, show him this: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2006/11/say-it-isnt-so-part-two.html


18 posted on 08/08/2013 9:59:40 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: real saxophonist

My leg weighs 170.


19 posted on 08/08/2013 9:59:43 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Pining_4_TX

Hello, families tend to e a t. t h e. s a m e. food.


20 posted on 08/08/2013 10:04:08 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Skinny people die just as dead.
The notion that we all live for ever playing volleyball on the beach is ridiculous.


21 posted on 08/08/2013 10:07:35 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: kabumpo

Chicken and dumplings, Mac and cheese, Nanner pudin...


22 posted on 08/08/2013 10:08:27 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: real saxophonist
Giovanna Garcia, MD, Internal Medicine- Greeley, CO

My doctor. She was recommended to me by my hand doctor a couple years ago.

She's a hottie.And she knows what she's doing.

23 posted on 08/08/2013 10:08:36 PM PDT by real saxophonist (If something is TRULY 'common sense', then a law about it is unnecessary.)
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To: kabumpo

The Gov food pyramid is so crazy.

Shovel down that cereal covered with sugar as part of a HEALTHY BREAKFAST.

A couple of eggs will KILL ya.

They tell us for 50 years to be corn fed and wonder why people are obese?


24 posted on 08/08/2013 10:12:55 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Sure.

The same way people are born losers...

You decide each moment at a time and tell yourself stories that condition you to your current state.


25 posted on 08/08/2013 10:14:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Pining_4_TX
I respectfully disagree.

I have 8 brothers and sisters. I am the baby. All of my siblings were athletic and very thin as kids and for some into their early twenties. As was I. The people in my family who eat well and exercise (myself, my two marathon running brothers, my sister who has MS) are all not only thin but look 20 years younger than our age with fabulous bodies and skin to march. The rest are obese, gray, and just plain old and look their age and older.

The only difference is our lifestyles. Period.

By the way. I am small framed and 5'6. One of my sisters that is monstrously obese is also small framed and 5'6. If you put us two together I look like a 20 year old super model and she looks like something out of joba the hut.

I love her but girlfriend just kept eating crappy foods and not exercising.

All those siblings will die way before their time.

26 posted on 08/08/2013 10:18:40 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

While you have a point it does not explain it all.
My family is very athletic, marathoners and all that.

Pop died young from a heart attack.
His Identical twin, also a marathoner lived 15 years longer and died of respiratory problems.
They had virtually identical genes and lead the same lifestyle.

I smoke and drink, I might drop tomorrow or at 90.
Who knows?


27 posted on 08/08/2013 10:24:43 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
The notion that we all live for ever playing volleyball on the beach is ridiculous.

I don't play much any more, but I sure like to watch!


28 posted on 08/08/2013 10:28:16 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Our nation endures and our government... has not perished from the earth."-Sarah Palin 7/1/13)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Thanks for your post. Yes. I am one of those people. I am 47 and a fit size 0. I eat less than 1400 calories a day and do cardio 5-6 days a week and resistance training 2-3 days a week. I do allow for more calories than 1400 2 days a week (which actually keeps my metabolism functioning higher and burning weight. When I do cardio, it is usually around 65-75 minutes. I love it. I feel great. I eat wholesome and pure (protein, fruits, veggies, seaweed.), drinking lots of water, teas and green tea. I feel and look great but I work at it and have to stay on it. The biggest change though is the eating. I can go without exercise (if I wanted I love exercising though) and not gain if I eat right.

I also count my calories 5 days a week. It is sort of like balancing a check book. If one doesn't keep track they don't know how much they have. Well people work hard to lose weight why not find out the nuts and bolts of how many calories they really need to lose, maintain, or gain weight. People just guess. But okay if one just lives on great proteins, veggies, and fruits sparingly as well as a few wholesome grains on occasion.

I feel free. I just live wholesomely and enjoy life and feeling excellent.

29 posted on 08/08/2013 10:31:12 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: WVKayaker
Yes..."I like to watch"

LOL!

30 posted on 08/08/2013 10:31:34 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: WVKayaker

For the record, those girls are to skinny.


31 posted on 08/08/2013 10:36:12 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Some people confuse Genetics with Destiny.

You may be pre-disposed to be an alcoholic. Doesn’t mean you are born one, just mean that when it comes to alcohol, you could become a habitual drunk faster and easier than the average man on the street. People seem to understand this.

Then there are genes that make one pre-disposed to be obese. Doesn’t mean you will be; just means that you may not get the thrill from exercise that others get. Some people run and feel fantastic; others run and feel wasted, exhausted and are essentially done for the day. No thrill, no “rush”, no endorphins - just tired. Remove the positive rewards and no matter what shape you are in, you won’t want to continue to do the exercise, will you?

I have had to work to stay reasonably fit, my entire life. I get no thrill from a hike, a bike trip, a run. I can run 3 miles and NEVER feel the endorphin rush - ever. I feel tired, I’m done. I do it because I feel I need to; not because I want to. Never get any enjoyment out of it - it’s a chore, but it keeps me from weighing 500lbs.

My grandparents were heavy, my mother has been fighting her weight since she was a child; and so have I. I have never been a track star. Even at 5’11” with a 6-pack and weighing 168 at 32; exercise was a chore. At 52 it’s still a chore.

I have the propensity to be very obese, all I would have to do to be morbidly obese is continue to eat 1500-1800 calories a day and stop exercising. It shouldn’t be that way - but I assure you it is. If I got the “rush” others got from exercise, it sure would be easier to get up and hit the treadmill or the gym every morning.


32 posted on 08/08/2013 10:38:20 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: mylife

Well yes. There is also stress response that certainly ages. It is just that I have had massive stress in my life more so than many of my siblings and I sought out support and assistance. I think this may have an impact on why I am so healthy too. I gather around me—God, emotional support, take care of myself, stay engaged in life learning new things, taking risks, challenging myself. But this too goes back to how healthy and energetic I feel as a result of self care. So who knows. It is interesting area to explore. Sorry about your Father. I also lost mine to a heart attack Great you come from an athletic family. :)


33 posted on 08/08/2013 10:39:03 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: mylife

As my ex-wife says, ‘What do farmers feed to their pigs to fatten them up?’ Corn of course.


34 posted on 08/08/2013 10:40:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I weigh the same as I did the day I started high school 62 years ago, 170#.


35 posted on 08/08/2013 10:42:50 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: GOP Poet

There are two things I can see.
Pop was a type A personality and he was also the original cookie monster, but that was OK because that is “Carb loading”

Who really knows?

Eat, Drink, be Happy.


36 posted on 08/08/2013 10:43:12 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Hodar

Have you tried listening to music when you workout? What a drag to not get the high. Have you tried running outside? What sort of food do you enjoy. Do you know your blood type? If so you may want to read up on Eat right for your Type. They list everything from style of exercise that is fitting to food. I thought it bunk intially but have found a lot of it true about me. That is fantastic that you keep at it. Enjoyment or no enjoyment that is what it takes. Kudos to you!!


37 posted on 08/08/2013 10:43:43 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: MHGinTN

Isn’t it amazing how people miss this link?


38 posted on 08/08/2013 10:44:17 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
To get an accurate picture of genetics involving weight in your family go back to pictures of family members in The Great Depression and WW2 up through the current generation. That will give you a more realistic genetic measure to go on. Many times in families there are those who are skinny and can eat anything they wish. There are others that if they look at food they gain weight. Both can even have the same level of daily activity and eat the same basic foods.

BTW who was that exercise/fitness guy who was on TV into nearly his 80's and his brother that out lived him? And there's some other guy on TV all the time pushing his weight loss exercise & diet program with and wears shorts. LOL Seriously he doesn't look healthy or happy.

My aunts and uncles lived into their late 70's and 80's both the skinny and the heavy.

39 posted on 08/08/2013 10:44:27 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I wish they would quit using BMI to determine obesity. It completely ignores muscle mass. My BMI of 30 gets me classified as obese. Not “overweight” but obese. My workout today was 150 burpees, which I knocked out in 21 minutes. Not bad for an obese guy :)


40 posted on 08/08/2013 10:45:03 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (Hello NSA monitors!)
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To: mylife
You too my FRiend. May life be full and as long as you like :).

I am also a type A, but mellowing with age (kinda sorta.)

I think you are right about the type though.

41 posted on 08/08/2013 10:46:03 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: mylife

Indeed! ... BTW, bought afew hundred rounds of 9mm 147 gr Federal today at Widener’s! Been waiting on that stuff to try with a suppressor. Herco powder was in stock too ... for the reloading.


42 posted on 08/08/2013 10:47:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Happy reloading.


43 posted on 08/08/2013 10:53:03 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

what?

more folks now born to be fat...lol...we are Obese Nation

and black and Mexican women...good lord...I bet 70% over age 30 are tech obese

just more rationalization to excuse lack of personal discipline

why is obesity more common amongst lower class?

see a lot of fat goal oriented achievers this side of Ailes or formerly Mr Nicotine Stained Fingers...and Rush admits it’s discipline

purely coincidence..pfft

I was born to be thin then i passed 30 and had to watch it

it’s just how it is unless you are a really hyper foot patter

burn less than you eat and get fat

im 6’5” and 230...not skinny but nowhere near obese

wifey is a buxom 5 foot and 107...bout right

man I’d weight 500 pounds I ate all i wanted

and it would be my fault same as I sat on the couch and smoked Sour Diesel all day

or drank to excess

or cheated on the old lady

etc


44 posted on 08/08/2013 10:55:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: mylife

I channel worker bees when I’m reloading ...


45 posted on 08/08/2013 10:57:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Sweet. LOL


46 posted on 08/08/2013 10:59:14 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: wardaddy
why is obesity more common amongst lower class?

Because carbs have long shelf life and are cheap to produce.

Live on Kraft mac and fake cheese, and you will gain weight.

Sure beats starving.

47 posted on 08/08/2013 11:04:47 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Bull

It’s lack of discipline.

Same reason so many tote around a string of illegitimate babies..waddling about in apron fat

These ain’t Tom Joad just yet son.

You can lose weight and eat cheap crap like dollar menu from McDonalds or Ramen noodles from Dollar General

ask me how I know?

I’ll tell you....I have been poor

Choosing between cigs to smoke or bags or dried cereal to eat

Poverty causes fattiness?

that is hilarious

I guess it cause crime and bastard kids too

and pimples


48 posted on 08/08/2013 11:13:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: 3Fingas

thank you

sanity

on a conservative forum and some here fall for this tripe


49 posted on 08/08/2013 11:14:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: WVKayaker

just wait

folks here will opine those comely lanky ladies are anorexic

fat girls get loving here..lol


50 posted on 08/08/2013 11:15:32 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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