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NY STATE GUN BAN
self | 7/21/13 | self

Posted on 07/21/2013 6:50:16 AM PDT by Jerrybob

NY State banned many firearms some time ago and even required they be turned in (as I recall). Haven't heard a word about that since. What's going on there?


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1 posted on 07/21/2013 6:50:16 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: Jerrybob

If you own some kind of weapon and live in New York, I’d say there is a good chance you may be violating THEIR law.

It seems they aren’t wholeheartedly enforcing it right now, but that doesn’t mean the first time you get your but in a jamb they won’t come down on you with the force of Almighty Allah (peace be upon you).


2 posted on 07/21/2013 6:54:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jerrybob

even if you have a magazine that is over 10 rounds you are a felon, or at least after January 15, 2014


3 posted on 07/21/2013 6:57:08 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jerrybob

the guns on the list can be registered and not surrendered. but then they know where they are when they decide to collect them.

magazines over 10 rounds have to be ‘permanently’ modified or turned in.


4 posted on 07/21/2013 6:59:08 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jerrybob

NY ass hats they call their government is afraid to try confiscation and will attempt by individually attacks slowly. The State capitol would be a pile of rubble to try mass confiscation.


5 posted on 07/21/2013 7:05:22 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Vaquero

It is a 7 round limit in New York, not 10.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/ny-gun-law-amended-in-middle-of-night-to-exempt-retired-cops-from-magazine-limit/


6 posted on 07/21/2013 7:08:06 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

they allow 10 round magazines.

you just are not allowed to load them with more than 7 rounds. this was changed shortly after the law went into effect as being totally unreasonable.


7 posted on 07/21/2013 7:13:33 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jerrybob

There HAS been a lot of push back from gun owners in NY, but the media can’t be bothered to report on it because it doesn’t fit their narrative. On 2/28 (a bitterly cold, rainy Thursday), between 12,000 & 15,000 people gathered in Albany to protest the unSAFE Act. You probably didn’t hear a word about it (or, if you did, it was complaints by NYS about the grass that was trampled by the protestors & how much that would cost the taxpayers to replant.)

Resolutions against the unSAFE Act have been passed in almost all counties in the state & numerous local sheriff’s offices have spoken out against it. Again, the silence in the media has been deafening. Here’s a link to the resolutions against the act (and the handful that support it): http://www.nysaferesolutions.com/

A number of lawsuits have been filed, but who knows how long those will take. One has already been thrown out (although that one was the flimsiest of the lot).

I attended 2 Albany protests (including the one on 2/28, taking time off work to do so). But I’m done - I moved to Georgia at the beginning of June & I’ll never live in NY again. My only regret is that it took me so long to make the move.

(I just remembered - I still need to get my FR screen name changed because I’m no longer TrappedinNY:-)


8 posted on 07/21/2013 7:13:59 AM PDT by FreedFromNY
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To: thackney

It is legal to buy and possess 10 round mags but under the unSAFE law, it is illegal to load them with more than 7 rounds unless you are at an incorporated shooting range.

Sound stupid? You are right! But this is an example of the idiocy of tyrants like Little Andy Cuomo.

FUAC


9 posted on 07/21/2013 7:14:57 AM PDT by GnL
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To: Vaquero; GnL

Thanks, I had forgotten that part.

Cheers.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 7:18:55 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Gaffer

Oh, they are enforcing it. But some of the provisions don’t take effect until later. For example, NYers have until Jan 15, 2014 to get rid of magazines over 10 rounds. Also have until Apr.15, 2014 to register or “dispose of properly” and so-called “assault” weapons.

There will be minimal compliance with these laws. That much I can assure you.

And for the NSA reading this, FU.


11 posted on 07/21/2013 7:19:01 AM PDT by GnL
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To: GnL

Truthfully? I’d move the hell away from there. That state has no business whatsoever claiming to be one of the original 13.


12 posted on 07/21/2013 7:20:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: GnL

they want the god fearing constitution believing NYers to be felons like many of the Dhimmicrat base.


13 posted on 07/21/2013 7:22:19 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Gaffer

Most gunowners here are looking for ways to do exactly that. Of course that plays right into the hands of the tyrants—they would like nothing more than for all of us to leave.

You know what though, this is not a disease only affecting places like CA or NY. This is going to affect everyone in the US. If you think you are safe in GA, consider what the demographics will be like in another 10-20 years. This disease is spreading and I fear it will take a lot of blood to eradicate it. We just happen to be on the frontlines right now. Your time will come.


14 posted on 07/21/2013 7:24:22 AM PDT by GnL
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To: GnL

Gaffer - sadly, I do believe you’re right. The disease is spreading throughout the country, but I figure I’ll get some good years down here before it overcomes Georgia. I spent years fighting the politics in NY, well before the unSAFE Act was a gleam in little Andy Cuomo’s eye. I still stay plugged into the fight up there, but I’m done slamming my head into that particular brick wall. I did feel a small bit guilty for abandoning the front line up there, but I got over it as soon as I had my first whiff of freedom down here. As far as I’m concerned, NY can go the way of Detroit. They want it, they can have it. And I hope they choke on it.


15 posted on 07/21/2013 7:32:19 AM PDT by FreedFromNY
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To: Jerrybob
Minimal compliance + halfhearted enforcement = Coumo FAIL.
16 posted on 07/21/2013 7:32:47 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: Trapped_In_NY
Heck. I recognize your screen name, and I'll have to learn a new one. Maybe you should go for FormerlyTrapped_In_NY. ;)

/johnny

17 posted on 07/21/2013 7:33:39 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: thackney

You are allowed to have a 10 round magazine, however you are only allowed to insert 7 rounds into them. The exception is at the range you can load all 10. Thus the restriction is 7 rounds in a 10 round magazine. A little known fact about NY is that CCW is determined by each individual county. Thus many counties upstate are shall issue for concealed carry, while downstate is mostly may issue(ie impossible).


18 posted on 07/21/2013 7:39:25 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Jerrybob

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association http://shar.es/kv6vU via @sharethis


19 posted on 07/21/2013 7:41:14 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I have one in mind as long as it’s not already taken. I’ll post my “conversion” once I have the new name locked down (I want to keep my history, so it won’t be as easy as just registering a new name.)


20 posted on 07/21/2013 7:41:26 AM PDT by FreedFromNY
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To: Jerrybob
Everything adapts.


21 posted on 07/21/2013 7:42:00 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: GnL

My county, 96% white, 1% black, 2-3% other (Hispanics mostly). Hell, I can drive some of the backroads here and still see Rebel Flags and outposts with signs that have all kinds of retro things on them. Not hardly.

There are perhaps 6 or 8 metro counties where Yankees now live. Metro Atlanta. There are over 150 other Georgia Counties, most of whose residents would likely frown or spit when you say “Atlanta.”


22 posted on 07/21/2013 7:44:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Trapped_In_NY

I don’t blame you. I am always looking for ways to leave NY. We are somewhat entrenched with 2 kids in school, good job here, and a house. However, if the right opportunity comes along, I will not hesitate.

Running isn’t always the answer, but in the case of NY, fighting will not change anything except my health, for the worse. Until the SCOTUS does their job and gives us some specifics on the limits of the 2nd Amendment, this s*** will just continue. Even if the pending lawsuits are successful they will take years to complete. By then the NY tyrants will have come up with some other law that then has to make its way through the courts. The other hope is that NYC gets inundated with a tsunami. But that is just a dream.


23 posted on 07/21/2013 7:44:42 AM PDT by GnL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjUaQJj1aDE

A new class of criminals — YOU!


24 posted on 07/21/2013 7:47:34 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Gaffer

All it takes is a large metropolitan area to influence the laws all over the state (Atlanta!). If you think upstate/western NY is anything like New York City, you are mistaken. Outside the urban areas this state is quite conservative. Doesn’t matter. The communists infesting NYC make it impossible for the rest of us to live as we want.

It can, and likely will, happen to GA too, as the demographics change. Hint: they are not changing in our favor. I didn’t say it was happening next week but check back in a decade or two.


25 posted on 07/21/2013 7:50:04 AM PDT by GnL
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To: Vaquero

And don’t load any mags with more than 7 rounds...unless you are one of the “only ones”, of course!


26 posted on 07/21/2013 7:54:33 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: GnL; Trapped_In_NY
My wife and I left family and friend to flee NY decades ago. It was like emerging from a bad dream after seeing the freedoms of other states (I've lived in 2 Red states since then). My relatives are still conservative, but under the spell and powerless. Albany and NYC owns the state and its people. Just try to buck the pols and you'll get b!tchslapped like you wouldn't think possible. Freedom does not exist in NY, no matter what the pols keep chanting...

Escape while you still can...

27 posted on 07/21/2013 7:54:51 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: GnL

There are not enough people in Atlanta or the few surrounding metro counties to do what you say. I know the influence of NYC and Buffalo etc has on state politics, but there are still just too many other counties and people that aren’t associated with that. NYC is a foreign country and nearly responsible for the entire state’s woes. They can’t pack 7-10 million in Atlanta - EVER.

Atlanta, because it is so corrupt can’t even attract any new residents but the stupid and gullible and they quickly learn.

The truth is there are more in the surrounding non-Atlanta Metro counties, even if they are mostly out-of-staters, and they never vote the same way as Atlanta Citizens. The liberal block is DeKalb and Fulton and some parts of other surrounding counties but not many. Macon, Columbus etc are liberal but won’t outnumber non-urban city counties.

Georgia is never going to be like your New York. Your one big city is responsible for it all.


28 posted on 07/21/2013 7:57:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

Glad to have you somewhere where your vote and conscience counts!


29 posted on 07/21/2013 7:58:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2harddrive

you can load over 7 at legal range.

of course all my 1911 mags are 8 rounds and if inadvertently load 8 I am a felon....If I then chamber the 8th round, I am not.

I loathe the entire Cuomo Clan....


30 posted on 07/21/2013 8:02:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Gaffer

After the last elections, I wonder if that is true even in the Red states...


31 posted on 07/21/2013 8:13:58 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Gaffer

Ok.


32 posted on 07/21/2013 8:19:08 AM PDT by GnL
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

It wasn’t Georgia that lost the election for the GOP...we may be pissed at our Representatives (most GOP) and Senators (both are RINOs) but our legislature, governorship and Congressional delegations are majority Republican.

We have Hank Johnson, the idiot who thinks islands float, John Lewis about whom I won’t comment out of respect for the injured, and one or two other Democrats in Congress but they are limited.

With the SC ruling on the voting rights act, I don’t see them bullying their way to any more convoluted minority black districts like Cynthia McKinney’s district was any more.


33 posted on 07/21/2013 8:19:30 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jerrybob
The battle here is not stopping, we are fighting everywhere but Albany continues to ignore the 52 out of 62 counties that have voted against UN-SAFE. We continue to have protests, rallies and getting in the faces of our politicians.


34 posted on 07/21/2013 8:20:49 AM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: Vaquero

Once I picked up some 15 round 1911 mags...still have them. Work great.


35 posted on 07/21/2013 8:21:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jerrybob

This is what we did in Erie County, forced the legislature to vote against safe, took 2 democrats with us while Cuomo and Schumer were in town.

http://youtu.be/7skIvZa1IqU


36 posted on 07/21/2013 8:25:27 AM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: Jerrybob

Me going against rino senator Grisanti.

http://youtu.be/0WwAACyizAA


37 posted on 07/21/2013 8:30:40 AM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: GnL

You mention minimal compliance. Is there an indication of any compliance? I have tried to find this but have come up dry.

My local once a week paper occasionally has an update from the Country Sheriff’s office. They give a pretty good snapshot of the business they did over a month. One of the statistics they provide is the number of pistol permits and pistol permit amendments they process. Nothing about registering the now evil aemi-autos. I wonder if that is zero for my county.


38 posted on 07/21/2013 8:40:22 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Gaffer

the 8 rounders are from colt and fit flush with my bone stock 1943 Remington Rand. I had though only 7 rounders fit flush but these hold 8 and work first time every time.

there are 40 round drum mags for the 1911....I don’t think the son of Mario will allow those....


39 posted on 07/21/2013 8:44:20 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Gaffer
I hear you. Now that NC has a Republican governor and we have a chance to dump our deep-blue senator Hagen, I see us turning from a purple state to a redder hue. Even the pinko areas of central NC are starting to realize that zero has sold them down the river. Already the new administration is enacting all kinds of tax incentive laws to boost the states economy and draw in companies from other states (Welcome Ruger!). It's funny to watch the NAACP/OWS/Commie professional protester-types marching in downtown Raleigh each week to protest the "cuts to the poor!" when the opportunities are opening up left and right.

I do so love it when a plan comes together...!

40 posted on 07/21/2013 8:51:00 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Vaquero
they allow 10 round magazines.

you just are not allowed to load them with more than 7 rounds. this was changed shortly after the law went into effect as being totally unreasonable.

And of course, if they can mandate a 7 round limit on ammo carried in magazines, they can mandate 6, or 5, or 4, or 3, or 2...

41 posted on 07/21/2013 8:51:20 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

Does that mean that my 33-round stick-mag for my Glock wouldn’t be welcome in NY? Bummer! Guess I’ll have to strike a tourist visit to NY off my bucket list...


42 posted on 07/21/2013 8:53:07 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase; Trapped_In_NY; GnL

I am stuck do to my wife’s elderly and sick and ‘not going to move’ parents.

I would leave here in a NY minute if it was not for family.


43 posted on 07/21/2013 8:53:08 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kip Russell

you be right....nothing stopping them.


44 posted on 07/21/2013 8:54:11 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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45 posted on 07/21/2013 9:02:00 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Vaquero
I've seen leftists on message boards such as DU argue with all seriousness that American citizens should be restricted to possessing (and not be allowed to conceal) this:

if they wish to have a handgun.

The "logic" is that a flintlock is what was available when the Constitution was ratified, so any subsequent technological developments aren't protected. Mind you, they're exercising their 1st Amendment rights to say that on the Internet...

46 posted on 07/21/2013 9:02:02 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

Magazine?

don’t bring your Glock, into new York period, it be a felony....unless you are just driving through(and not stopping, cept for gas or lunch). or have a document from an NRA sanctioned shooting match from a club in NY state that you are going to shoot in. I use to shoot with a SASS club and we had all our matches sanctioned so our Connecticut/Jersey/PA friends could come for the matches. Had they not had the flyer from the match and got caught with the gun at a hotel, etc, they could have been arrested on a felony rap.


47 posted on 07/21/2013 9:02:23 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero
My first thoughts when I moved away from NY (due to job) was to transfer back as soon as possible (mid-80's). It took all of 6 months being away to convince me otherwise. After the parents came to visit their grandkids, they decided the same and followed us here. My widowed mother and both of my retired in-laws moved from NY and ended up passing away down here. I don't think they regretted the move at any time. We had two siblings follow us as well.

So far, I can honestly state that I don't miss the cold, taxes, or loss of freedom that exists in NYS...

48 posted on 07/21/2013 9:04:07 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Kip Russell

DU has nothing but leftists posting. except when some brave souls trolls them.

BTW NY law says you can buy flint and/or cap and ball handguns without a permit in NY (even cap and ball revolvers)....

...you just cannot own all the supplies(cap or flint, ball, powder) necessary to fire it.


49 posted on 07/21/2013 9:08:20 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kip Russell
"The "logic" is that a flintlock is what was available when the Constitution was ratified, so any subsequent technological developments aren't protected. Mind you, they're exercising their 1st Amendment rights to say that on the Internet..."


50 posted on 07/21/2013 9:09:14 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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