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Strange Things in the Sky
mysteriousuniverse.org ^ | July 15, 2013 | Jason Offutt

Posted on 07/15/2013 6:47:01 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Human beings have always seen unidentified objects in the sky. From the prophet Ezekiel’s sighting of a flying wheel in 593 B.C., to the 1561 A.D. Battle over Nuremberg, Germany, to Kenneth Arnold’s “pie plate” UFOs spotted near Mt. Rainer, Washington, in June 1947, there are things above our heads that baffle us.

Many of these unidentified flying objects appear to be intelligently controlled aircraft. Others, like the following sightings in California and Illinois, defy explanation.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysteriousuniverse.org ...


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: extraterrestrials; ufo
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1 posted on 07/15/2013 6:47:01 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Often the imagination of men defies reason, imagination is infectious, men see what they want to see, to wit: the Zimmerman case.


2 posted on 07/15/2013 6:50:29 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: BenLurkin

3 posted on 07/15/2013 6:54:15 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: PoloSec

That is one of the most oblique insults to freepers who have experienced one or more UFOs I believe I have ever read at Freerepublic.


4 posted on 07/15/2013 6:54:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BenLurkin
Something has always puzzled me.

Why were the people at the beginning of the Superman show so excited about a bird or a plane in the sky?

5 posted on 07/15/2013 6:55:13 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: PoloSec

You are absolutely correct. How people see things is often a manifestation of their own minds.

But that only raises the question: what was it they saw which was so outside of ordinary experience that their minds had to explain it to them with more familiar imagery?


6 posted on 07/15/2013 6:56:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

While curious, I remain skeptical given the deception out there.

The truth remains elusive at best.


7 posted on 07/15/2013 6:56:19 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: N. Theknow

Me so glad that cows don’t fly.

;^)


8 posted on 07/15/2013 6:57:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Walking cows are dangerous enough

Brazilian man killed in his bed by falling cow
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23303998


9 posted on 07/15/2013 7:01:31 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MHGinTN

I will consider your feed back, I have not received sensitivity training, perhaps you have, I will in future try my best to consider the feelings of everyone before I comment.

Or Not!


10 posted on 07/15/2013 7:04:37 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec

Your sarcastic effort proves your agenda. No further recognition for your smarmy self will be forthcoming. Have nice day


11 posted on 07/15/2013 7:07:38 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: brownsfan

12 posted on 07/15/2013 7:08:46 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: N. Theknow
Something has always puzzled me. Why were the people at the beginning of the Superman show so excited about a bird or a plane in the sky?

That brings to mind another question that has been asked many times over the years:

How come Superman just stands there smiling as the bad guy fires six shots at him from point blank range, but then ducks when the bad guy throws his empty gun at him?

13 posted on 07/15/2013 7:09:19 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: PoloSec

That’s pretty much true especially if you are extremely tired.

You see what you want to see, or worse you can see what you really don’t want to see.


14 posted on 07/15/2013 7:14:47 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: JoeProBono

15 posted on 07/15/2013 7:16:10 AM PDT by humblegunner (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: N. Theknow

Hilarious! As many times as I’ve seen that opening, that never occurred to me.


16 posted on 07/15/2013 7:16:50 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: BenLurkin
That is the framework I have tried to apply to Ezekiel's sighting found in the Old Testament. A hint is that in his day the color of something was often expressed as a familiar color of a metal, and actions of something were expressed as a familiar system, like a wheel for a rolling sort of motion or a circular physical characteristic. A gyroscope is nicely described as a ‘wheel within a wheel’ don'tchathink?
17 posted on 07/15/2013 7:17:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BenLurkin

http://www.examiner.com/article/falling-cow-kills-man-bed-sleeping-cow-falls-through-roof-just-missing-wife


18 posted on 07/15/2013 7:17:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: BenLurkin

http://www.examiner.com/article/falling-cow-kills-man-bed-sleeping-cow-falls-through-roof-just-missing-wife


19 posted on 07/15/2013 7:17:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: BenLurkin
From the article...

“My husband and I were amazed. We’re just regular people who saw something strange one day and still can’t reconcile that thing with our logical minds,”

This common type of statement by someone who has had a sighting is indicative of the ability to realize and overcome the natural tendency to 'explain away' an unusual observation.

Humans try to make everything fit into their idea of reality as a method of coping. The oddity of such reports triggers a defense of their version of reality, it is a threat and the tendency is to lash out to remove it from their world.

For those who can't accept the possibility of something they can't understand, I truly feel sorry for them. They are living in fear.

20 posted on 07/15/2013 7:17:08 AM PDT by whodathunkit (DOJ + NSA + IRS = DNI)
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To: humblegunner

21 posted on 07/15/2013 7:19:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: BenLurkin

re: “From the prophet Ezekiel’s sighting of a flying wheel in 593 B.C. . . .”

This so-called “sighting” is always thrown in with the “evidence” that extra-terrestrials visited us in the past. There is no mystery to what Ezekiel saw. He tells the reader what it was - Cherubim from the presence of throne of God, which are winged creatures created by God who are always in His presence. The description of them is difficult to imagine as Ezekiel uses terms to describe them as best he can, plus most Bible scholars agree that the description also uses symbolism, so you have to be careful about taking it literally (hand of a man, wings, whole body full of eyes, etc.).

Further, if you read the entire chapter 10 of Ezekiel, you realize that the whole point of what he was envisioning was that the presence, the glory, and the Spirit of God was leaving the temple. Israels’ sin was so great that God’s glory left the temple. It was a message of judgement against the people of Israel at that point in time.

So, it is clear this has NOTHING to do with extra terrestrials or a flying saucer.


22 posted on 07/15/2013 7:21:01 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: MHGinTN
"No further recognition for your smarmy self will be forthcoming."

Your comment is somewhat logical and somewhat generous...Thank You for the last word!

23 posted on 07/15/2013 7:21:58 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: MHGinTN

Ezekiel has absolutely nothing to do with extra-terrestrials. See post #22. Read the entire chapter of Ezekiel 10.


24 posted on 07/15/2013 7:23:23 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Yes, the “wheel” appears again during his vision of the coming millennium Temple.


25 posted on 07/15/2013 7:25:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

re: “Yes, the “wheel” appears again during his vision of the coming millennium Temple.”

You are correct. There are at least 58 passages throughout the Bible which mention the cherubim. They are mysterious in their appearance (weird for sure), but their purpose is not - they symbolize the presence of God, the glory of God, the holiness of God.

Not exactly flying saucer material.


26 posted on 07/15/2013 7:27:59 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: BenLurkin

I wish I could see one.


27 posted on 07/15/2013 7:29:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rusty schucklefurd

So, the being whose hand reached from some other where/when into King Belshazzar’s where/when at palace party central would not be defined as belonging to an ‘extra-terrestrial by you? FRiend, even Angels are extra-terrestrials.


28 posted on 07/15/2013 7:31:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

I am always mystified as to why we can get clear, in focus film and photos of everything EXCEPT UFOs and/or extra-terrestrials.

I’m not saying people aren’t seeing something, and there are definitely strange visual occurrences in the skies, but why can’t we ever get a good, clear picture? I mean with all the cell cameras, iphones, ipads, digital cameras, surely someone could get at least one clear, in focus shot.


29 posted on 07/15/2013 7:33:45 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: BenLurkin

Let’s face it: this article and the resulting discussion here were simply too coherent, and cast too focused a light on matters that - until now - had done something to some of us at some point.

I’m left with an uneasy sense of time missing and consciousness averted for reasons that lie like a murky pond in twilight, awaiting Truth . . . or maybe more coffee.


30 posted on 07/15/2013 7:35:39 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: BenLurkin

Let’s face it: this article and the resulting discussion here were simply too coherent, and cast too focused a light on matters that - until now - had done something to some of us at some point.

I’m left with an uneasy sense of time missing and consciousness averted for reasons that lie like a murky pond in twilight, awaiting Truth . . . or maybe more coffee.


31 posted on 07/15/2013 7:35:39 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: BenLurkin

Let’s face it: this article and the resulting discussion here were simply too coherent, and cast too focused a light on matters that - until now - had done something to some of us at some point.

I’m left with an uneasy sense of time missing and consciousness averted for reasons that lie like a murky pond in twilight, awaiting Truth . . . or maybe more coffee.


32 posted on 07/15/2013 7:35:39 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: JoeProBono

33 posted on 07/15/2013 7:36:24 AM PDT by humblegunner (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: dagogo redux

Hmmmm...

I can only speak for my self, but I am going to go have more

Coffee

Coffee

Coffee


34 posted on 07/15/2013 7:37:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: MHGinTN

re: “So, the being whose hand reached from some other where/when into King Belshazzar’s where/when at palace party central would not be defined as belonging to an ‘extra-terrestrial by you? FRiend, even Angels are extra-terrestrials.”

Well, then. If that’s your definition of an extra-terrestrial, then I guess God/Jesus is an ET as well?? So-called “ghosts” would also be ET’s too, right?

Angels are NOT extra-terrestrials in the sense you mean them or the other 99.9% of ET believers mean. They are spiritual beings from outside of not only our planet and universe, but our dimension as well. They are not even material beings with flesh and blood.


35 posted on 07/15/2013 7:42:47 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Um, nice try at a broad deception, but there in fact are many clear photos and video. You knew that and still tried to float your deception. Why?


36 posted on 07/15/2013 7:44:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Again with the logical fallacies (the undistributed middle mean anything to your ilk?). Jesus is a Terrestrial manifestation of the God Who created this Universe. Want to try another deception? Jesus even explained that FACT to Philip in the fourteenth chapter of John’s Gospel, as he instructed Philip that all he, Philip, could see of God the Father was where God intersected Philip’s senses manifest in Jesus, for Jesus is in The Father and the Father is in Jesus. If the being to whom the hand in Daniel Chapter Five belonged had been on the terrestrial ‘plane’ then that being would not have been invisible. Want to try again?


37 posted on 07/15/2013 7:49:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
Let's take a closer look at the flaws in your assertion:

They are spiritual beings from outside of not only our planet and universe, but our dimension as well. They are not even material beings with flesh and blood.

First the following: without time events do not occur; without space things do not exist.

If you can agree with that starting point, then we can have a rational discussion of the issues at hand. Otherwise I will not take the time to exchange with someone gnarled up in Magic Thinking. God Created the entire Universe, all the dimensions (even the ones we have yet to identify) and all the realities thereof. God is not the Universe, His Holy Spirit maintains the extremely delicate balance which allows beings like us to exist within His Creation, and He has entered into His Creation in the person of Jesus Christ, Who now having taken a terrestrial body, has shown to us that such a terrestrial body can take on characteristics which allow movement between dimensional realities we humans have yet to define, perhaps because they are outside of our sensing capabilities, but not necessarily outside of our abilities to construct 'things' which will detect these other dimensional qualities which really exist, having temporal and spatial characteristics we have yet to define for our understanding.

38 posted on 07/15/2013 7:59:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BenLurkin
like this?
39 posted on 07/15/2013 8:00:19 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: GreenHornet

“How come Superman just stands there smiling as the bad guy fires six shots at him from point blank range, but then ducks when the bad guy throws his empty gun at him? “

Now THAT is indeed a most interesting question...and more worthy of consideration than anything concern Trayvon dorkton or his low-information supporters.


40 posted on 07/15/2013 8:07:25 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Wildbill22
While curious, I remain skeptical given the deception out there.

Occam's razor strongly mitigates against belief that UFOs are occasioned by visitors from other worlds. The easiest person in the world to fool is yourself, partially because you believe yourself too easily.

The number of reasons folk might fervently believe that an experience was a visit from outer space are too many to enumerate here. I am convinced such people are generally sincere, but mistaken. There are a few unscrupulous conmen out there, as well.

41 posted on 07/15/2013 8:15:16 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: MHGinTN

re: “If you can agree with that starting point, then we can have a rational discussion of the issues at hand. Otherwise I will not take the time to exchange with someone gnarled up in Magic Thinking. God Created the entire Universe, all the dimensions (even the ones we have yet to identify) and all the realities thereof. God is not the Universe, His Holy Spirit maintains the extremely delicate balance which allows beings like us to exist within His Creation, and He has entered into His Creation in the person of Jesus Christ, Who now having taken a terrestrial body, has shown to us that such a terrestrial body can take on characteristics which allow movement between dimensional realities we humans have yet to define, perhaps because they are outside of our sensing capabilities, but not necessarily outside of our abilities to construct ‘things’ which will detect these other dimensional qualities which really exist, having temporal and spatial characteristics we have yet to define for our understanding.”

Look, if you want to define God, angels, Jesus, cherubim as an extra-terrestrials go right ahead.

As to clear and in focus photography of UFOs and ET’s, I’ve never seen any.

You want to accuse me of deception, fine. I don’t quite understand you’re wanting to lump our Lord in with UFOs, but that’s just me.


42 posted on 07/15/2013 8:18:49 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

It appears the Air Force does not lie when it says there is no such thing as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).


43 posted on 07/15/2013 8:21:36 AM PDT by AKinAK
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To: BenLurkin

In my opinion there are several possibilities for UFOs if they are indeed physical craft that are flying around.

1. They are aliens from another star system.

This is the most popular choice as the aliens could be from another star system and their motivation ranges from benevolent observation all the way to an insidious invasion agenda. There could be multiple species if this is indeed true.

2. They are actually US from the future.

This is one recent theory where in our distant future we come back in time to check out our own history and probe the occasional redneck. Some reasons are that they may have genetic issues caused by cloning and they are looking for “fresh” genetic material.

3. They are actually US but from the PAST.

This is one theory no one besides a few others have brought up. However, it has taken only 6 thousand years to go from hunter gather type society to full blow technological species. Humans have been relatively unchanged for about 250,000 - 100,000 years. Neadertals had bigger brains and are even older. It only takes about 10,000 years for most evidence of a modern society to be worn away by nature, even less if glaciers run over it. We have had several ice ages in the time period that humans were unchanged. We could have had a civilisation that was formed 100,000 years ago and they came up with tech and left this planet and their descendants have come back to check on thiose left behind.

4. They are from Earth but not US.

This is the hypothesis that intelligent beings came about from a dinosaur line and they are living underground and curious about this new seemingly intelligent species known as humans.

5. They could be a combination of the ones above....

Personally I think #3 is more likely given the relative impossibility of interstellar flight.


44 posted on 07/15/2013 8:22:42 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Da Coyote

“How come Superman just stands there smiling as the bad guy fires six shots at him from point blank range, but then ducks when the bad guy throws his empty gun at him? “

Cause superman loves to mess with criminals....

Casuse rubber guns hurt when they hit you and blanks don’t...


45 posted on 07/15/2013 8:25:22 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: rusty schucklefurd

re: “Yes, the “wheel” appears again during his vision of the coming millennium Temple.”

You are correct. There are at least 58 passages throughout the Bible which mention the cherubim. They are mysterious in their appearance (weird for sure), but their purpose is not - they symbolize the presence of God, the glory of God, the holiness of God.

Not exactly flying saucer material.

Read some of the ancietn Indian texts, there is some weird stuff in those, some read like jet fighter instruction manuals...


46 posted on 07/15/2013 8:26:10 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

re: “Read some of the ancietn Indian texts, there is some weird stuff in those, some read like jet fighter instruction manuals...”

Soo, you’re saying that “jet fighter instruction manuals” (is there such a thing?) and weird ancient Indian texts come from aliens?


47 posted on 07/15/2013 8:36:55 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Look at the term, U F O; are you trying to tell me that you can identify the object Ezekiel saw? Your effort to assign to me assertions I am not making is indicative of someone who cannot think straight, or has an agenda not openly acknowledged. That is deception, whether you can acknowledge it or not is not my problem, but it is a signal to me that you are not going to be able to carry on a rational discussion. Have nice day


48 posted on 07/15/2013 8:45:59 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BenLurkin

49 posted on 07/15/2013 8:48:09 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

No, they come from ancient indian texts written by humans who lived in india a long time ago.


50 posted on 07/15/2013 8:56:53 AM PDT by GraceG
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