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7 Surprising Reasons Why Americans Arenít Prepared for Whatís Coming
Survival Sherpa ^ | 3/13/12 | Todd Walker

Posted on 03/12/2013 6:00:02 PM PDT by Kartographer

A) Peer Pressure B) Government Schools C) Dependence D) MBM (Morally Bankrupt Morons) E) Nationalism F) Mental Enslavement G) Stifled Self-government

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C and D are my top two choices. There's a lot of E right here on FR, but it's as much a result of A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ as anything. A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

I see a lot of this especially in my discussion with people about Prepping.

1 posted on 03/12/2013 6:00:02 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Prepper Ping!


2 posted on 03/12/2013 6:00:32 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

E) Nationalism

No, it should be::

E) Internationalism

That is worse...


3 posted on 03/12/2013 6:03:43 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Kartographer
I'm not a prepper. Because of the economy, I have to live like it's the mid 1800s. ;)

/johnny

4 posted on 03/12/2013 6:05:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Normalcy bias is probably my biggest obstacle. I am definitely taking steps to prepare (mentally, skill set more than stockpiling).


5 posted on 03/12/2013 6:14:03 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I can’t much get into this Prepper thing.............

Whatever happens, happens. If it’s as bad as some folks are predicting, I don’t even know if I WANT to survive it.


6 posted on 03/12/2013 6:14:24 PM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: basil
What most folks would consider prepping is how my grandparents lived. And how I live today.

I go into winter with a very full larder (most of it I can myself). Wound up adding some feral pork that I cured and smoked (thanks, brother).

And now that we're about a week away from the vernal equinox, I've got a cold frame busting full of tomato, pepper, and tobacco plants ready to go in the ground after Easter.

I can rinse and repeat whether the world around me collapses or keeps going crazy.

Is it prepping? Or is it just living a conservative and prudent life?

/johnny

7 posted on 03/12/2013 6:20:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: basil
Whatever happens, happens. If it’s as bad as some folks are predicting, I don’t even know if I WANT to survive it.

And what if it only gets "really bad" for four months, and after that it's just "darn bad" for a year. Still rather die?

8 posted on 03/12/2013 6:23:58 PM PDT by The Duke (We don't rent pigs, but apparently we *do* ELECT them.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

” I’ve got a cold frame busting full of tomato, pepper, and tobacco plants ready to go...”

Heck of a salad! Let me guess.., red wine vinaigrette?


9 posted on 03/12/2013 6:25:32 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: basil
If it’s as bad as some folks are predicting, I don’t even know if I WANT to survive it.

Cheer up...it's better than this reality.

Close to the land, close to family and friends, close to nature.

Seems scary...but it'll be a BIG improvement.

Just watch out for those Zombies.;-)

10 posted on 03/12/2013 6:25:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: Kartographer

The list does not include sports.

Sports is a diversion that maintains people’s reactions and perceptions of the world on the same level as fourteen-year-olds.

Go team!!!

That’s children’s thinking.


11 posted on 03/12/2013 6:28:08 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: outofsalt
The seedlings for the big garden haven't quite over-run the actual reason for the cold frame, which is the lettuce and spinach and chives. I had some lettuce today with lunch when I thinned the lettuce, yet again. ;)

/johnny

12 posted on 03/12/2013 6:28:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I grew up during the Cold War, my daf was in the AF and they were told to have 3 months of food on hand. I laugh now because the 8 of us coldn’t have lived 3 weeks on what we had and it seemed like a lot.

OTOH, my MIL had home canned goods from years back and could have lasted for months.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 6:29:18 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Kartographer

surprising to who? the sheeple?


14 posted on 03/12/2013 6:30:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: outofsalt
I've got 10-15 years of good cigars in a home-made humidor...a lemon tree and trees loaded with squirrels (and several boxes of good .22 lr ammo).

If any of you are hungry (for squirrel or a good,well-aged Macanudo gold ascot with a Connecticut wrapper) ...come on down.

Sentry password is "freeeeeper"

15 posted on 03/12/2013 6:32:34 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: tiki
Not counting the catz (they get fussy about being included on the protein list), I'm good for months and months. I've been living that way for a long time, and spent a year and a half after the market crash of 2008 mainly living on stored and foraged and grown food. Squirrel population took a big hit in 2009 around here. ;)

/johnny

16 posted on 03/12/2013 6:33:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Gotta find a local source of cow or horse sh_t...
Cleared about an 8th of an acre recently to expand the garden.
Pretty much all red clay & sand....*sigh*
17 posted on 03/12/2013 6:34:52 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: 45semi
Gotta find a local source of cow or horse sh_t...

Call your congresscritter. They are experts in that. ;)

/johnny

18 posted on 03/12/2013 6:36:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: warchild9
The list does not include sports. Sports is a diversion that maintains people’s reactions and perceptions of the world on the same level as fourteen-year-olds.

DING! DING! DING!

Whenever I see an adult decked out in the full regalia of "their team," my mind sees that woman who served her jury duty in her StarFleet uniform.

19 posted on 03/12/2013 6:38:21 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: RoosterRedux

Yeah—I’m old and not getting any younger. I don’t have any place to raise and store food and water and other essentials.

Maybe one of my many children will take us in-—LOL!


20 posted on 03/12/2013 6:38:36 PM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: 45semi
"Gotta find a local source of cow or horse sh_t..."

I can help you with that. Find some cows and/or horses grazing in a field and stakeout the area. Pay careful attention to the end opposite the head and you should be good to go!

21 posted on 03/12/2013 6:39:17 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That is pretty much how I live as well, I guess I have always been a prepper. Didn’t think of it because I have always lived a good distance from any town so have to have enough on hand to last a while.


22 posted on 03/12/2013 6:40:13 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: RoosterRedux

*sigh*. I live very close to the shade-grown tobacco in the CT River valley. Sadly most of the farms have been paved over and turned into housing or low-density manufacturing.

I have a soils book from the 1890s that talks about the CT River valley farming, including broad leaf tobacco for cigars.

We used to be a center for manufacturing and quality farming and now all we seem to export is the moonbat liberal ideas of some of our citizens.


23 posted on 03/12/2013 6:40:52 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: Kartographer

I had an anti-gun female communist ask me if I was a “prepper” as well as an evil gun owner. I told her, “Nope, don’t need to.” She looked puzzled and asked me why. I told her that when the SHTF and chaos ensues, I’ll just take my gun and take her stuff. She asked if I would actually shoot her to take it. I replied that the answer to that question was basically up to her. She stomped off madder than a wet hen. I walked away smirking because I knew I finally got to that nasty communist hoe.


24 posted on 03/12/2013 6:41:58 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Kartographer

I agree with “C” and “D”.


25 posted on 03/12/2013 6:43:09 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: warchild9
Sports is a diversion that maintains people’s reactions and perceptions of the world on the same level as fourteen-year-olds.

Couldn't agree with you more on that subject. I work with a sports alcoholic and he cannot bear to hear bad news of any kind. Assistant high school football, baseball coach, etc. Everything is “Go team!” If everything isn't going just dandy he really loses it. When he asks how you are, any reply other than "great" is not acceptable.

26 posted on 03/12/2013 6:47:52 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: lgjhn23
I’ll just take my gun and take her stuff.

You won't want to do that to me. NEVER mess with a cook. More peach cobbler? ;)

/johnny

27 posted on 03/12/2013 6:48:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

C bothers me more than anything, people remind me of cats which are the most dependent independent creatures i have ever been around.

Some people believe cats love them when they rub against them and purr, but if they would take notice the cats will do the same thing to a dam fence post.

A stray cat turns up on your door step, you feed it a few times and then forget to feed it for awhile you are liable to be clawed because you did not feed it soon enough.

And that is the way with people.

And on another subject, yes i hate to think it is true but the republicans or conservatives are just as bad as the democrats liberals, the difference being they still claim to believe in the constitution, but they only believe in your freedoms that they approve of.


28 posted on 03/12/2013 6:50:34 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Inyo-Mono
It's not just sports. It's all the crap on television in general. I rarely see a TV because I haven't owned one in over a decade, but every time I do, it seems like it's on a logarithmic journey into hell.

Or as the guy said: "I turned up the brightness, but it didn't help".

/johnny

29 posted on 03/12/2013 6:51:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 45semi

Where are you at? I’m in central Alabama and would be happy to fill any Freeper’s truck up with the front end loader. No charge.


30 posted on 03/12/2013 6:51:47 PM PDT by Himyar
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To: Betis70
I used to live in CT (Darien)...always loved CT...many family and friends.

I told my Dad a long time ago when I lived in CT about the shade tobacco grown in the CT River Valley and he (fond of tall tales, he was) said that where he grew up in GA was also famous for Shade Tobacco.

I said "Dad...that's not possible. Ct River Valley is the most famous place in the world for shade tobacco."

But he insisted that the worked under the shades at a tobacco field.

He grew up and worked the tobacco fields in Decatur County GA.

Heheh...one of his many seemingly outlandish stories that was, after all, true.

He passed away last year at 94 and I really miss him.

Shade tobacco is grown in 2 places in the world (the CT River Valley and a few counties near Decatur Co GA...including Gadsden Co FL).

31 posted on 03/12/2013 6:51:49 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: 45semi

You should be able to find someone who raises chickens. It works well in the compost pile. Or put it in a bucket and make chicken tea. Be careful though. It can burn.

Here is a website that compares the various animal manures:

http://www.greenbuddz.com/naturalfertilizers.html

A lot depends on what the various animals have been eating.


32 posted on 03/12/2013 6:53:05 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Is it prepping? Or is it just living a conservative and prudent life?


I don,t know what it should be called but sure sounds ok to me.


33 posted on 03/12/2013 6:53:39 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m with you, we live like our grandparents did too, only on steroids now.


34 posted on 03/12/2013 6:59:34 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Kartographer
Add them all together and they spell...

E-N-T-I-T-L-E-M-E-N-T.

People who feel they are owned a (good) living due to some nebulous abuse perpetrated against them or their kin in past, and also feel none of the current rules for civilized living (laws) should have to apply to them for the same nebulous reasons. They don't learn the self-provisional ways or prepare for winter (can you say Grasshoppers?). Of course, this time the grasshoppers are a bit more demanding, less constrained, and better armed...

The Ant family had better plan to be dug in pretty well this time around...

35 posted on 03/12/2013 7:01:30 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: 45semi
Don't forget all of your non-meat or dairy kitchen waste. A good, long-lived compost pile is a valuable friend.

Wine and beer yeast and a good hops plant makes life worth living no matter what.

(A few cases of whiskey makes a good cache of cash, too).

36 posted on 03/12/2013 7:22:34 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ve been discussing such living with people on another chat board. Most think I’m an insensitive deranged moron who wants poor people to “f-— off and die” ... because I suggest all should be able to grow a simple garden and build a humble cabin (among other skills), and do so if circumstances dictate.


37 posted on 03/12/2013 7:26:53 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
A good, long-lived compost pile is a valuable friend.

I recently started using liquid seaweed, molasses, and emulsified fish to wet down my compost pile. Wow. Talk about breaking stuff down fast.

I try to compost about 3 cu/yds of material a year. It makes a world of difference in the garden.

/johnny

38 posted on 03/12/2013 7:28:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 45semi

Have all you could use on farm but makes no sense to ship to from TX to NC.

I make manure tea for my garden. Horse manure is pretty hot.

I compost the leaves from my pecan trees and have a lot to start plants with.

Garden because I like it and like to eat fresh produce.

Put in a greatly expanded orchard 2 year ago. The drought made it very hard to keep them alive. Most made it, lost some.

Have good strawberry bed and blackberry bushes. Plum, persimmon, fig, peach, apricot, pear, apple and Almond trees. Some are still young but others are very productive.

I don’t use a cold frame but have a sun room that allows me to start plants in the winter. I just put some outside for the first time this week. Not planted but still in the pots. Probably will wait until after 10th of April before I actually plant them.

I am not a prepper, but like to eat. We normally have cattle but sold ours 2 years ago because of the drought. It is still bad and not sure when we will rebuy. One of our neighbors is using our small subirrigated pasture.

We have great neighbors. Some of the families have been friends for 150 years. And in this county since 1889.


39 posted on 03/12/2013 7:29:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: GraceG
No, it should be:
E) Internationalism

Excellent point and so true.

40 posted on 03/12/2013 7:32:27 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: ctdonath2
Most think I’m an insensitive deranged moron

You aren't insensititive at all. The universe.... it's insinsitive. It destroys people that can't make do in dire circumstances and it does it with no pity or remorse.

You seem like a caring and sensitive deranged moron for worrying about idiots that won't take care of themselves. ;)

/johnny

41 posted on 03/12/2013 7:34:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Kartographer
None of those categories fit me. What I did in my mind was “go Galt”.

John Galt said in Atlas Shrugged, “I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”

My personal “Galt” in my mind is to ignore what other people say about preparedness, to remove myself from the world when it comes to my preps and safety - to do it myself for no one will do it for me. I am in my own capsule and I do what is necessary for me to survive whatever comes my way.

I can't control the world at large, can't control the government of this country, can't control my state, can't control my county or my city, but I can control myself and what I do. Putting it simply, I said, “Screw you world.” I study for better ways and more ways to make my prep life better and I leave the rest of the world outside my house to God.

I am asking/taking help from JRandomFreeper as I try to grow some damn plants but other that that, I do everything on my own. I read, I study, and I act.

42 posted on 03/12/2013 7:35:06 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
NEVER mess with a cook. More peach cobbler? ;)

Lemme guess, the crunch ISN'T almonds. :)

43 posted on 03/12/2013 7:36:59 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Smells like almonds...

/johnny

44 posted on 03/12/2013 7:38:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 45semi

MANURES AND THE PRINCIPLES OF MANURING

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/27274/27274-h/27274-h.htm

Published in 1910

Found this an interesting read. Some of the initial ideas still make sense.


45 posted on 03/12/2013 7:39:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: ctdonath2

That is one thing that we have in our favor, we know how to do things and we have power and hand tools to do it.


46 posted on 03/12/2013 7:45:25 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Texas Fossil; 45semi
Google Free Library has a LOT of that kind of stuff that has passed out of copyright available online. I still use the 1904 "Farmer's Cyclopedia of Agriculture" for a reference.

Although I admit I don't have any Paris green for dealing with bugs.... But lots of the book is still useful. ;)

/johnny

47 posted on 03/12/2013 7:49:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
to grow some damn plants

LOL! You really aren't the type that likes gardening naturally. You do get points for persistance, though.

/johnny

48 posted on 03/12/2013 7:54:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: lgjhn23

I had an anti-gun female communist ask me if I was a “prepper” as well as an evil gun owner. I told her, “Nope, don’t need to.” She looked puzzled and asked me why. I told her that when the SHTF and chaos ensues, I’ll just take my gun and take her stuff. She asked if I would actually shoot her to take it. I replied that the answer to that question was basically up to her. She stomped off madder than a wet hen. I walked away smirking because I knew I finally got to that nasty communist hoe.


That’s a great story. I said basically the same thing to a lib and he stalked off. I think he was madder at himself than me.


49 posted on 03/12/2013 7:58:50 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Mad Dawgg
huh....guess I 'stepped' into that one!

Anyway, thanks for the info & comments folks!
50 posted on 03/12/2013 7:59:39 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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