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Windsor votes to remove fluoride from drinking water (Canada)
Windsor star ^ | January 28, 2012

Posted on 01/30/2013 7:10:06 PM PST by opentalk

Windsor on Monday joined the growing number of municipalities which have voted to end the decades-old practice of adding fluoride to the water supply in the fight against tooth decay.

“A lot has changed in the last 60 years … fluoride is not the be-all and end-all to prevent tooth decay,” said Mayor Eddie Francis, who voted with the majority.

… “I want to be shown that when we ingest this, we are safe,” said Kimberley DeYong of Fluoride Free Windsor. She and others said not a single study among those cited by fluoridation proponents looked specifically at the industry-sourced chemical used by the municipality and its impact on human health outside of tooth enamel hardening.

… Peter Van Caulart, director of the Environmental Training Institute that trains municipal waterworks operators, said there’s been a 26 per cent drop in Canadian municipalities using fluoridation since 2005 and that in Niagara Falls, it was the first time council opposed its medical officer of health.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.windsorstar.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: alzheimer; canada; choice; drinkingwater; epa; flouride; fluoride; health; iq; melatonindisruptor; money; pinealcalcification; pinealhealth; purityofessence; sleep; suppressedscience; thyroid; unethicalgovernment

1 posted on 01/30/2013 7:10:13 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

They did the same thing here in Florida. Every member of the county commission who voted to remove the fluoride was replaced in November, and the Fluoride was just recently added back. I guess I just don’t care either way.


2 posted on 01/30/2013 7:13:23 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: opentalk

There’s really no point if you take halfway decent care of your teeth. I’ve never lived in town or had fluoridated water and I’ve got better teeth than most people my age.


3 posted on 01/30/2013 7:16:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: opentalk
Same illiterate morons who believe in "manmade global warming" ending the world as we know it.
4 posted on 01/30/2013 7:16:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: opentalk

“Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.”
-General Jack D. Ripper, Dr. Strangelove(1964)


5 posted on 01/30/2013 7:20:26 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: opentalk

6 posted on 01/30/2013 7:20:41 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ReformationFan

GMTA.


7 posted on 01/30/2013 7:21:56 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: hinckley buzzard

its a waste of money to add it


8 posted on 01/30/2013 7:22:39 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: opentalk

When I moved out into the country and we had well water, I started getting more cavities, until I realized what the problem was and started rinsing with flouride at night.

That seems to have fixed it. You don’t need flouride in the water if you use the right kind of flouridated toothpaste, and rinse at night.

But since a lot of people probably won’t do this, it makes sense to add it to the water, IMHO.


9 posted on 01/30/2013 7:25:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Squawk 8888; fanfan

Ping.


10 posted on 01/30/2013 7:29:50 PM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123, Bahbah, and Just Lori.)
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To: driftdiver
its a waste of money to add it

Its about as useful as a phone booth is today. Let people buy their own damn toothpaste.
11 posted on 01/30/2013 7:29:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: opentalk; a fool in paradise

How d’ya remove something invisible from water? Boil it?


12 posted on 01/30/2013 7:29:50 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: opentalk

Fluoridated water is of no benefit to adults. Fluoride in the water only benefits children, whose teeth are still forming. I grew up in a non-fluoridated area. Parents could get fluoride supplements and give them to their children if they wanted. In my 26 years as a dental hygienist, I’ve found that lots of kids get too much fluoride in their system, not from the fluoride in the water, but from accidentally ingesting toothpaste. If an adult wants the decay preventing benefits of fluoride, get a TOPICAL fluoride treatment after your dental cleaning. Or else, get a prescription strength fluoride rinse or brush-on paste. Supervise children carefully when they brush. The toothbrush only needs a pea-sized dab of toothpaste. Another thing that helps prevent cavities is to floss your child’s teeth. Kids generally don’t have the manual dexterity to floss their own teeth until about the age of 9. If you are adamant about minimizing your child’s fluoride exposure, good oral hygiene is a must!


13 posted on 01/30/2013 7:31:08 PM PST by toothfairy86
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To: opentalk

If you think fluoride is important for your kid’s teeth (I do) then go to the dentist and get fluoride treatments. They are not that expensive.


14 posted on 01/30/2013 7:31:16 PM PST by DManA
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To: opentalk

I do hope they keep pasteurizing it, though.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 7:31:16 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: opentalk

Canadians should vote to add Windsor to their water.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 7:32:12 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

I didn’t get it for a minute, and I live in Windsor.


17 posted on 01/30/2013 7:35:19 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: opentalk

50 years ago putting in the water may have been the most efficient way to get the dental benefits of fluoride. Not any more. There are better, more effective, more efficient ways to distribute it.


18 posted on 01/30/2013 7:36:09 PM PST by DManA
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To: opentalk
Topically applied flouride is fine but ingesting is not, otherwise it would be safe to eat toothpaste. No one should be forced to use or ingest a substance. If flouride was so wonderful it would have the same status as other vitamins and minerals like calcium and magnesium and people would purchase it voluntarily.
A BETTER solution to prevent cavities is to eat a diet rich in Vitamin K2. Natural sources include grass fed beef. Check out Weston Price DDS. Vitamin K2 gets calcium from the bloodstream and into the bones and teeth which also reduces hardening of the arteries.
19 posted on 01/30/2013 7:38:02 PM PST by UnRuley1
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To: Joe 6-pack

“Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works.”

I know Kubrick & co. meant this as satire but it seems closer and closer to the world we live in under Chairman Maobama.


20 posted on 01/30/2013 7:40:49 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: cripplecreek

From another article the cost of adding fluoride to Windsor’s drinking water is between $125,000 and $150,000 each year.


21 posted on 01/30/2013 7:42:35 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I live in Windsor as well. I think we have some of the best tasting water anywhere. They run that stuff through like a trillion spaghetti strainers...seems to work.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 7:45:41 PM PST by CanadianBloodAmericanHeart
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To: ReformationFan

It began long before Obama, and will continue for quite a while after.


23 posted on 01/30/2013 7:49:45 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: MetaThought

Sad but true:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


24 posted on 01/30/2013 7:53:24 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Former Proud Canadian

And you’re one of the smart ones!

Sorry, kiddin’. If I wasn’t HTMiLiterate I would have posted a pic of a bottle of the stuff.

If you’re not Canadian or living along the border (as I have done my whole life) there’s no chance.


25 posted on 01/30/2013 7:55:50 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: opentalk

What about Chlorine in public water? Is that not worse then fluoride?
Anyway, from 1972 until I left the US in 2000, I had nothing but pure well water with NO chemicals at all.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 8:41:44 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Cicero
When I moved out into the country and we had well water, I started getting more cavities, until I realized what the problem was and started rinsing with flouride at night. That seems to have fixed it. You don’t need flouride in the water if you use the right kind of flouridated toothpaste, and rinse at night.

Like hell you do.

I don't even want to know how you can post something so evil and live with yourself.

27 posted on 01/30/2013 8:42:13 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: UnRuley1

Thank you for posting that so I didn’t have to. :)

I’ll also add that ingested fluoride can have negative effects on your thyroid. I read somewhere that it is/was commonly used in Europe to treat hyperthyroidism.


28 posted on 01/30/2013 8:45:07 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: AlexW
Chlorine = tripleplusunbad than E. Coli ...
29 posted on 01/30/2013 9:02:48 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: opentalk
Fluoridegate - the film that will absolutely obliterate any remaining credibility of chemical fluoride pushers

http://www.naturalnews.com/038888_Fluoridegate_water_fluoridation_documentary.html

30 posted on 01/30/2013 9:21:21 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy
There is an interesting presentation on YouTube. I have kept my eyes wide open and come to the conclusion that I will not drink water with Fluoride. Fluoride "might" have some benefit as a topical treatment, but was never meant to be consumed. Fluoride is another excitotoxin.

Bryson The Fluoride Deception (1/3)

Bryson The Fluoride Deception (2/3)

Bryson The Fluoride Deception (3/3)
31 posted on 01/30/2013 9:49:30 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: toothfairy86
Fluoridated water and treatments may be extremely beneficial to adults. Dental caries on the roots of adult teeth can be difficult to restore, especially if the caries is in the mesial, distal, facial and lingual root surfaces of a tooth. The restoration of root caries on anterior teeth can be a challenge and very costly. Many years ago the standard for the dental industry was to discontinue fluoride treatments at age 18. For the last 20 years the leaders in dentistry highly recommend fluoride treatments for adults that continue to suffer dental caries. I have over 40 years as a dentist and a dental scientist and encourage adults that continue to suffer decay and/or demonstrate significant root surfaces exposed to the oral environment to receive regular fluoride treatments. It is important for all of us to understand that dental caries (tooth decay) is the number one disease suffered by humans. Numerous scientific studies have demonstrated that the best prevention of dental caries is a diet with no sugar or extremely low sugar. The next level is adequate oral hygiene. Please understand that a sugar diet will over ride the benefits of excellent oral hygiene to the extent that dental caries will be observed in this combination. The third area of defense of dental caries is adequate fluoride therapy. Once again, the benefits of excellent oral hygiene and fluoride therapy can be overcome by a sugar diet. The next area of defense is the surgical removal of the dental caries and replace the area of removal with a restoration. The restoration is not the ultimate in that the restoration can suffer recurrent dental caries. Therefore, the best we can do for our patients to prevent dental caries is to encourage behavior modification of the sugar diet for those that continue to suffer dental caries. Most dental practices do not promote a behavior modification program because it is difficult to modify behavior and patients do not wish to pay for it. Dental caries is a preventable disease and it is simply easier for the dentist to treat the disease then to modify the behavior that causes the disease.
32 posted on 01/30/2013 9:59:11 PM PST by tongass kid
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To: opentalk; Springman; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; ...
Thanks Springman.

To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

33 posted on 01/30/2013 10:07:52 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: opentalk; Springman; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; ...
Thanks Springman.

To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

34 posted on 01/30/2013 10:08:40 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: AlexW
I have never heard of pure well water. I have observed a number of well water tests and none are pure. Well water contains the naturally occurring elements in the area of the well and may include arsenic and yes even fluoride. I recommend that if you drink well water that the water be tested once a year or more often if the well is shallow and/or live stock or other animals live in the area.
35 posted on 01/30/2013 10:10:35 PM PST by tongass kid
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To: DManA

Yep, fluoridation is like labour unions- great 70 years ago, useless now.


36 posted on 01/30/2013 10:11:43 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: opentalk
It is a reasonable assumption that the average dentist in Windsor charges more then $150k in treating the effects of tooth decay. Most studies show that adding fluoride to the water will reduce tooth decay by about one half. Therefor the $150k allocated to fluoride added to the drinking water is a great cost savings in addition to the reduced pain and suffering of the patients.
37 posted on 01/30/2013 10:23:18 PM PST by tongass kid
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To: tongass kid

“I have never heard of pure well water.”
____________________________________________

Yes, the only “pure” water is distilled water.
I say pure in that it fell 70 miles away as rain water over 100 years ago. It made its way into water bearing sands that are over 100 feet deep.
It is as clean and unadulterated as anything you will find
in nature. No chemicals are needed to make it safe to drink.
Any minerals that are in the water are innocuous and of no concern.
The quality is equal to Memphis artesian water, but no Chlorine was added.

My information came from my well driller who was also a customer of mine, and the most notable well driller, Commercial, municipal, and private, in west Tennessee.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 10:32:39 PM PST by AlexW
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To: tongass kid

Horse hockey.

I have “atrocious” oral “hygiene” habits (I have flossed exactly 4 times in my life, and brush occasionally, when my mouth feels icky).

My hygienist is amazed that I have so little bone loss, and cannot believe me when I tell her of my utter disdain for the dental profession. Your post does nothing but confirm my prejudice. You guys are no less a scam than AlGore.

Go peddle your snake oil elsewhere. Flouride is POISON, and only entered the food chain because of lobbying by the aluminum industry. Take a GOOD look at pictures of folks’ teeth where flouride is naturally in the water they drink and tell me again how “beneficial” flouride is supposed to be.

Yes, I said LIAR!


39 posted on 01/31/2013 2:31:09 AM PST by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Actually that is a US only brand. They don’t sell it here. Few Canadians are aware of its existence.


40 posted on 01/31/2013 3:41:30 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: mlizzy
Interesting thanks
41 posted on 01/31/2013 4:54:00 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Roos_Girl
I had not heard about the thyroid affects. I am a thyroid patient and have been through hell with it. I wonder if the fluoridation had something to do with it?
Also, I happen to work for a DDS and I have had the fluoride in the water discussion with him. He knows how I feel about FORCED ingestion of a substance. Again, if it was so wonderful, no one would force you to ingest it. I purchase all kinds of supplements if I feel it will improve my health. So far, I have NOT ever purchased fluoride other than in the toothpaste I use. I have only recently learned about Vitamin K2 and am now taking supplements as well as using only butter from grass-fed cows. The Kerry Gold brand from Ireland is wonderful. I have located many sources of grass-fed beef available in my state and will be making purchases in the future.
42 posted on 01/31/2013 7:23:31 AM PST by UnRuley1
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I had forgotten that.

My dad and his pals in North Dakota seemed to prefer Windsor to other whiskeys and bourbons so I was familiar with the brand.

Later when I bartended in Minnesota, south of Winnipeg, we had lots of Canadian customers. If I recall correctly some would order a “blend,” and we would then serve them Windsor or Canadian Mist, for the very reason you mention.


43 posted on 01/31/2013 7:45:07 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Springman

Hi Springman! Thanks for the ping! I’m sorry I only caught up on them just now.

I hope everything is going well with you and Mrs. Springman.


44 posted on 02/02/2013 2:08:17 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: Don W

Don,

You have been blessed with good oral health. Studies have shown that about 2% of the US population has no gum disease and does not need to brush or floss to prevent gum disease. Your evidence is a statistical pool of one person, you. Just because one person (you)does not have a problem does not make me a lair or prove that most others do have problems. There are some folks that will never have cancer but they do not prove that cancer is not a concern for many folks. There is no need for childish name calling based upon your sample size of one. It is obvious that you totally lack the education and dental experience to understand the dental suffering of your fellow man. Further bashing and impetuous posts from you will not increase your education or motivate you to understand dental science. Therefore do not expect me to continue communication with you. I have moved on.


45 posted on 02/27/2013 7:39:53 PM PST by tongass kid
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To: opentalk

Horrifying asylum kitchen mix-up left dozens dead
http://www.offbeatoregon.com/1211c-asylum-kitchen-mixup-killed-hundreds-with-scrambled-eggs.html


46 posted on 01/03/2014 9:31:46 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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