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Adolf Hitler's Plot To Bomb New York (w/Rocket Propelled Space Shuttle Carrying Radioactive Payload)
Daily Express ^ | January 4, 2013 | David Robinson

Posted on 01/04/2013 12:13:30 PM PST by DogByte6RER

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To: Partisan Gunslinger

“There needs to be a clear winner and the people need to feel it”

Ah, the old no peace without victory philosophy, victory here being judged by the standard of unconditional surrender. I wouldn’t have thought it necessary, but I’ll here briefly mention how the aim of total victory in WWI led rather directly to Naziism and Bolshevism.

Or do you not consider that peace to have been Carthaginian enough? Should we have razed cities and occupied for 50 years the great war losers like we did the losers of 45? Do you honestly consider whatever it was that followed WWII peace?


41 posted on 01/04/2013 3:14:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: DogByte6RER

“...powered by 36 V-2 rocket engines. “

Getting ONE V2 to work took painstaking care. Trying to get thirtysix to work in concert has BOOM written all over it.


42 posted on 01/04/2013 3:22:52 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Goering was a WWI flying Ace but he wasn't much of an organization man. The Luftwaffe was an elitist corps that never achieved its potential because its chief failed in his vision. The critical failing of the Luftwaffe was very short range which never was expanded to meet the competition, and which hindered the Luftwaffe time and time again.

This space shot, one of Hitler's "secret superweapons" was never more than an autistic late-night fantasy.

43 posted on 01/04/2013 3:31:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2banana
Gee - can we use that logic on Afghanistan or Iraq civilians today? Why not? Why can't we firebomb and carpet bomb their cities

Brand new Year, same old ignorant drooling a--holes.

44 posted on 01/04/2013 3:35:48 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tublecane
They deliberately targeted barracks, apartment complexes, homes, etc. The only way you can accurately call it strategic bombing is if strategy was to kill as many civilians as possible to frighten the nation into surrender. And that’s what it was, essentially: a terror campaign

Who do you mean by "they," punk?

45 posted on 01/04/2013 3:40:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: DogByte6RER

Most of the German secret projects, including this one, were gigantic waists of resources that relied on technology that didn’t exist or provided little return.

This was wildly outside of German capability. But even if it wasn’t, you are talking about a giant investment to deliver a bomb that could have been delivered by a much simpler and cheaper U-boat design.

German secret weapons were generally just wishful thinking.


46 posted on 01/04/2013 3:55:09 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: zot

This is new to me.


47 posted on 01/04/2013 5:54:05 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar
This is new to me.

Me, too. I knew the Germans had a lot of far-out plans, but I hadn't heard of this one. The radioactive sand was a viscous idea. I'm glad they didn't use it on London.

48 posted on 01/04/2013 7:02:15 PM PST by zot
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Who do you mean by ‘they,’ punk?”

Allied command. Churchill was simply mad for it.


49 posted on 01/04/2013 7:19:10 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: cripplecreek

Crimes against individual German people, surely, but not “crimes against humanity.” That was something of which only axis members could be guilty, even if the acts in question were known to have been committed by the allies as well. Which gave us the satisfaction of punishing evil alongside our good friends the Russians.


50 posted on 01/04/2013 7:24:14 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: hinckley buzzard

Just so I know where you’re coming from, suggesting it may not be okay to slaughter innocents by the tens or hundreds of thousands is to be a drooling a—hole?


51 posted on 01/04/2013 7:27:14 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Shouldn’t you be sitting on a gun emplacement for a photo op with Hanoi Jane?


52 posted on 01/04/2013 7:31:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I looked at your about page and must say I agree with you on jury nullification. What confuses me is how you can advocate following your conscience instead of the law or a judge’s instructions, but somehow me damning large and, for instance the case of Dresden, extremely obvious war crimes makes me a traitor.


53 posted on 01/04/2013 7:37:40 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

You are garbage who is doing nothing but parroting Michael Moore talking points. I owe you no explanations.

You may go now.


54 posted on 01/04/2013 7:41:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I see. You were just barely engaging me, and now have switched to brick wall mode.

Whoever knew opposing terror bombing automatically places you in Michael Moore land? There are libraries full of conservative and libertarian anti-war literature. Our movement goes back before Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz, if they were really part if it. Try reading William Graham Sumner, Albert J. Nock, Garet Garrett, Mencken, Russell Kirk, Murray Rothbard, many a hardcore neoconservative when Democrats happen to be in power, even William F. Buckley intermittently.


55 posted on 01/04/2013 7:54:46 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

We’d have someone much worse.


56 posted on 01/05/2013 6:44:53 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: DogByte6RER

Thanks DogByte6RER.

My apologies if I missed this info as I barely read most of this interesting article (I plan to go back) — the Shuttle/tank separation angle was actually borrowed from the Luftwaffe parasite fighter/bomber separation angle, the German designer had been paperclipped after the war, and he got a call one day from NASA, a phone call which proved to be a real time saver for the STS designers.

The transoceanic bombardment of NYC was proposed using the A9/A10. The latter was the big booster, which would have pushed the suborbital A9 flying bomb across the Atlantic. There were no prospects for a guidance system accurate enough at that distance, so a human pilot would have guided the craft, and got it on its final approach. The pilot would have bailed out a few miles up and some miles offshore, parachuted down, and been recovered by U-Boat. The A9 flying bomb would have continued and delivered its conventional explosives warhead on the city of NY.

The resources to build this project were needed for the general war effort, so it never got to the prototype stage.

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/a9a10.htm

https://www.google.com/images?q=german%20missile%20a9%20a10


57 posted on 01/05/2013 5:00:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: iowamark

The boss. Every space program in the world grew out of captured V2 engines, or in the case of the US, out of their originator *and* captured V2 engines. :’)


58 posted on 01/05/2013 5:07:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: cripplecreek

Or, we could skip bothering to listen to them and just finish killing them in step one. :’) IOW, we think a lot alike.


59 posted on 01/05/2013 5:09:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Wernher von Braun
by Tom Lehrer

Gather round while I sing you of Wernher von Braun
A man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience
Call him a Nazi, he won't even frown
"Ha, Nazi schmazi," says Wernher von Braun

Don't say that he's hypocritical
Say rather that he's apolitical
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down
That's not my department," says Wernher von Braun

Some have harsh words for this man of renown
But some think our attitude should be one of gratitude
Like the widows and cripples in old London town
Who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun

You too may be a big hero
Once you've learned to count backwards to zero
"In German oder English I know how to count down
Und I'm learning Chinese," says Wernher von Braun

Sing it, Tom

60 posted on 01/05/2013 5:18:23 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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