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2013 just might be the year scientists find first “alien Earth”
MSNBC ^ | 12/27/2012 6:52:14 PM ET | Mike Wall

Posted on 12/30/2012 2:03:05 AM PST by Olog-hai

The first truly Earthlike alien planet is likely to be spotted next year, an epic discovery that would cause humanity to reassess its place in the universe.

While astronomers have found a number of exoplanets over the last few years that share one or two key traits with our own world—such as size or inferred surface temperature—they have yet to bag a bona fide “alien Earth.” But that should change in 2013, scientists say.

“I’m very positive that the first Earth twin will be discovered next year,” said Abel Mendez, who runs the Planetary Habitability Laboratory at the University of Puerto Rico at Arecibo. …

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: astronomy; xplanets

1 posted on 12/30/2012 2:03:14 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The “earth Twin” has already been found. It resides in the electronic bytes of all the EBT cards held by the alien leeches in this country.


2 posted on 12/30/2012 2:42:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

A bit of sensationalism in the article. Perhaps sensationalism is needed to compete with global warming for funding.


3 posted on 12/30/2012 2:43:18 AM PST by fso301
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To: Olog-hai
"2013 just might be the year scientists find first “alien Earth”

Not if it's an advanced culture and determined to have no income tax.
4 posted on 12/30/2012 2:44:58 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Olog-hai
. . . an epic discovery that would cause humanity to reassess its place in the universe.

"Humanity" is conscious? Does it have a blog in order to pose this reassessment? Will it be able to be accessed by all the alien civilizations out there? What if some of them are Islamic? So many aspects to this are ignored by this report.

5 posted on 12/30/2012 3:09:37 AM PST by Misterioso ( "Those who grant sympathy to guilt, grant none to innocence." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Olog-hai

I wonder what kind of McDonald’s this “twin earth” has? Walmart?


6 posted on 12/30/2012 3:22:44 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Olog-hai
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7 posted on 12/30/2012 3:28:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: clearcarbon

maybe it’ll be some type of Bizarro World... Htrae-like...


8 posted on 12/30/2012 3:29:05 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Olog-hai

I can assure you: if “scientists” pre-conjecture, pre-conjure and pre-conceive what they will find (i.e., because it is part of their new style of agenda-science), I have every confidence they will “find” it.

That is because many of their number are obsessed with “finding life” out there.

But that isn’t science. That is wishful thinking.

What is science? Exploration and discovery (and extrapolation, if warranted), and letting the chips fall where they may.

I am for that. Find what’s out there, and report it. Just the facts, ma’am.


9 posted on 12/30/2012 4:14:22 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Olog-hai

And they find that it has an alien population roughly the size of the U.S. alien population and the alien worlds leader has a the strange sounding name of Amabo Kcarab.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 4:21:44 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: cripplecreek

Not a lot of weather on that planet.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 4:36:50 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: BigCinBigD
Young planet but its got weather now.

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12 posted on 12/30/2012 4:56:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Gaffer

The 0bamazombs that live in the 4th dimension among us whose reality is based a utopian pipe dreams paid for by everyone but them who have no sweat on their own backs but complain the loudest. And they wonder why they get no respect? Well I thought many of them were college educated “geniuses” who thought it gave them the right to decide what’s best for others without having any experience in the subject matter themselves. Seriously? They need a reality check about how the world “really” works..


13 posted on 12/30/2012 5:27:32 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Olog-hai

2013 might be the year Eva Longoria starts stalking me demanding I father our love child. Hey, it might be.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 5:28:11 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Stalking Eve Bump...

15 posted on 12/30/2012 5:32:01 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Olog-hai

“While astronomers have found a number of exoplanets over the last few years that share one or two key traits with our own world....”

Yes and I thought in each of those now dozen or more cases the accompanying news story said they’d found an alien Earth. Guess maybe I misread the news at the time.


16 posted on 12/30/2012 5:41:53 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W
Yes and I thought in each of those now dozen or more cases the accompanying news story said they’d found an alien Earth. Guess maybe I misread the news at the time.

Those who write the stories generally aren't the scientists. If a scientist uses the term earthlike, he uses it as a generality and anyone with a more than passing interest in science knows that "earthlike" means a rocky planet that could be anything from Mercury to Mars.
17 posted on 12/30/2012 6:14:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai
Well, I guess Ward and Brownlee were correct, in their 1997 book "Rare Earth." They posit that another Earth will probably not be found in our galaxy, because of the astounding number of characteristics required to make a planet an "Earth", and the statistical (un)likelyhood that those characteristics exist. Brownlee, the exobiologist, posits that if another Earth-like planet is found, it will probably only host bacterial life, because all of the characteristics required for advanced life will be missing.

Astronomer Guillermo Gonzalez went further in his book, "Privileged Planet", making odds that there is probably not another earth-like planet around any star in the observable universe. Gonzalez, a pioneer of the "galactic habitable zone" theory, gives good reasons for this (in my estimation).

So, MSNBC, the chances are VERY GOOD that NO earth-like planet will be found in 2013.

18 posted on 12/30/2012 6:33:02 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: cripplecreek

Not much erosion.


19 posted on 12/30/2012 7:04:16 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Olog-hai

Even if they find one, unless there is going to be an advanced ion drive probe headed in its direction, that would take probably 400 years to get there (assuming it’s 20-50 light years away), and another 20-50 years just to let us know what its found, it’s pretty academic.


20 posted on 12/30/2012 7:23:17 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai

If you see the politicians pushing for a GAFTA treaty (Galactic American Free Trade Agreement) you will know that not only did they find another earth, they found that those residents work cheaper than the Chinese.


21 posted on 12/30/2012 8:43:48 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Olog-hai
2013 just might be the year scientists find first “alien Earth”

And then again, it might not.

22 posted on 12/30/2012 8:46:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Oatka

Sure ain’t gonna be the Ferengi.


23 posted on 12/30/2012 8:48:34 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’ll bet that they will not find it. That is because our Earth is dependent on a very rare colision that made the moon and made the earth with a very thin crust and a larger than normal Iron core.

Basically two large objects collided so that the earth got most of the cores and the moon got most of the crust.

This just is a very rare event.

The moon stablized our orbit and the thin crust allows for carbon recycling and plate techtonics and the big core allows for a beefy magnetic field.

We are just not going to stumble on another earth.


24 posted on 12/30/2012 9:11:30 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Olog-hai; KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thanks Olog-hai! The capabilities for detection have increased by at least a factor of ten since the first confirmed extrasolar planet detection more than ten years ago. But up until recently the standard spam was, "so what / it's unconstitutional / we can't go there / none of these are anywhere *near* Earth-sized / "Rare Earth" *proves* there isn't any life anywhere but Earth!" -- but that's not to say I don't I love seeing the same remarks over and over.
 
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25 posted on 12/30/2012 9:39:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The only way I see finding a new *Earth* planet as unconstitutional is if there’s a drive to export this current unconstitutional abortion of a government to that new planet.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 11:12:18 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: cripplecreek

An archipelago planet, I need to get a warp-capable ship to explore it.

It will be fascinating when they can image these planets, Earth may be somewhat unique with it’s large oceans, maybe a lot of habitable planets have numerous seas instead.


27 posted on 12/31/2012 2:15:35 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brett66

“Habitable” is a subjective term anyway. We’re ideally suited to this planet but we’re also the most adaptable species to ever live on this planet and we have the added ability to control our immediate environment to a certain extent. After all, we have people living in a completely uninhabitable environment on the space station. The arctic regions of our own planet are uninhabitable without a certain degree of technology and adaptability. With a thicker oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere mars would be pretty close to habitable without protective pressurized suits.

Large global oceans are good for transporting heat around a planet but I’m not sure they’re necessary as long as there’s enough multiple seas. The great lakes regulate temperatures in the region without currents running from tropical to arctic regions.

Considering the fact that our galaxy consists of hundreds of billions of stars and it appears that the majority of them we’ve looked at have planets, I’d say that the possibilities are pretty much endless. No planet would be exactly identical but some are probably quite similar and within our ability to adapt to.


28 posted on 12/31/2012 3:04:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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