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Mitsubishi Reports Toyota Replication [of Iwamura's LENR transmutation of elements]
New Energy Times ^ | December 7, 2012 | Steve Krivit

Posted on 12/12/2012 4:54:03 PM PST by TXnMA

Dec. 7, 2012 – By Steven B. Krivit –

Researchers from Toyota Central Research and Development Laboratories performed an independent replication of a Mitsubishi low-energy nuclear reaction transmutation experiment, according to a physicist from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries speaking at the American Nuclear Society LENR session on Nov. 14 in San Diego, Calif.

The physicist, Yasuhiro Iwamura, told the ANS audience that the Toyota researchers confirmed that nuclear changes from one element to another took place without the use of high-energy nuclear physics. Most scientists who have not followed this field closely consider such profound claims inconceivable. Toyota used a LENR deuterium-permeation transmutation method that Iwamura invented.

Iwamura has been working with this LENR method for 14 years. He said that one of his LENR transmutations was closely but not identically replicated by Toyota. Osaka University and Iwate University previously reported similar replications.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.newenergytimes.net ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; invention; kevmo; lenr; mitsubishi; physics; realscience; stringtheory; toyota; transmutation
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To: Kevmo
Sorry -- that reference to my #22 went right over my head...

I don't see the relevance.

81 posted on 12/14/2012 1:06:27 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: exDemMom
It would be nice to see the stoichiometries of all of the input/outputs,

I've asked for similar information regarding all the thousands of LENR replications that Kevmo claims. Kevmo said he'd rather clip his toenails than provide it.

82 posted on 12/14/2012 1:18:00 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
Who cares where Rossi is?

Three cold fusion threads on FR in the past 10 days, including one of yours, mentions Rossi.

He’s engaging in engineering, not science.

He's engaging in his life long specialty, fraud.

(E-cats) "NyTeknik Reports on Halted Swedish Investment in Hydrofusion Following Tests...

83 posted on 12/14/2012 1:30:20 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
Sounds like the USPS employee suggestion program ~ there've been several over the years. All of them failed because every proposal had to go through management in an unrelated field before it could be sent to people with the knowledge to properly evaluate it.

I did a 'suggestion of the week' project for most of a year. Every single suggestion I submitted was rejected ~ only to be adopted about 2 years later once it was outside the scope off the program and eligible for consideration for award.

Corruption is corruption.

Most of government is like that; most likely any large company that inserts its lawyers between patent proposals and marketing is like that too.

84 posted on 12/14/2012 3:01:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TXnMA
You are aware that you can't get a patent on an LENR based process ~ right?

Perpetual motion machines don't qualify either.

85 posted on 12/14/2012 3:05:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: PapaBear3625

One team of LENR researchers in Japan blew up their lab. They set up again in Hokkaido, the large, underpopulated island in the North. Is iwamura one of those guys? They scared Japanese physicists straight.


86 posted on 12/14/2012 3:09:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Any further data on that LENR explosion?


87 posted on 12/14/2012 3:18:02 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: muawiyah
You are aware that you can't get a patent on an LENR based process ~ right?

WHy? You can't patent nuclear weapons, but a new type of reactor should be patentable -- ONCE somebody presents a working model.

88 posted on 12/14/2012 3:23:40 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
nuclear anything is a totally regulated industry ~ Department of Energy and Department of Defense definitely draw the lines on who does what with which and who gets credit or who can patent anything that says 'atom' in it. it's not just weapons, it's reactors ~ and i suppose particle beams, et al.

Trick is you are not going to waltz in and get a patent on this ~ at this time.

89 posted on 12/14/2012 4:18:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Iwamura is in a mainline Mitsubishi lab on Honshu (Yokohama, IIRC...)

Do you have a link to a report on that explosion?

Wouldn't think that would be difficult (or unlikely) for folks playing with hydrogen and its isotopes to do... FWIW, you could see the shockwaves radiating out from some of the H2 explosions at Fukushima (indicating supersonic VOD?)

90 posted on 12/14/2012 4:43:49 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

The explosion I referred to was listed in http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/ with some pictures. That was followed up with news about the guys who ran the lab setting up in Hokkaido. i believe this is the same group ~ conveniently located away from the heavily populated areas of japan ~ http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTanomalouse.pdf ~ I keep all this stuff in mind since so much of it involves electrolysis, and the Japanese seem to hold the record for blowing stuff up ~


91 posted on 12/14/2012 4:58:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TXnMA

Indeed, it does!


92 posted on 12/14/2012 9:13:52 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Wonder Warthog

Thanks for the recommendation, dear Wonder Warthog!


93 posted on 12/14/2012 9:14:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kevmo

Thanks for the link, dear Kevmo!


94 posted on 12/14/2012 9:19:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: TXnMA
Note: You can't patent what you do not understand well enough to explain it in a patent application. (Fundamental research on principles and mechanisms is key to defending application patents...)

Indeed. Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

95 posted on 12/14/2012 9:29:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kevmo

Thanks for the link and book recommendation, dear Kevmo!


96 posted on 12/14/2012 9:33:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: TXnMA
Look at the video of Iwamura’s paper presentation. (Link is in my comment #1.) He presents atomic weight data

That is a very long video, and I stopped it at 3:06. I may watch it later and see if he explains how he changes neutrons into protons, but now, I'm just too tired.

97 posted on 12/14/2012 10:03:06 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Whatever is going on, if it does not involve fission of heavy elements, then they've got something new there.

Transmutation is nothing new (and it is not the same as "cold fusion"). It's done all the time to make radioisotopes for biological research. I want to know how this guy from Mitsubishi claims to have done it. I seem to recall reading something last night about how this is being developed as a means of dealing with nuclear waste, and not as an energy source.

98 posted on 12/14/2012 10:13:24 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Moonman62

If what you say has any weight whatsoever, some other legitimate freeper will ask the same thing.


99 posted on 12/14/2012 11:54:40 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: TXnMA

Note: You can’t patent what you do not understand well enough to explain it in a patent application. (Fundamental research on principles and mechanisms is key to defending application patents...)
***You can patent flame throwers, ovens, and even internal combustion engines without understanding the plasma physics behind a flame. Care to explain what a flame is? We have been using it for thousands of years but explaining it is beyond the understanding of 99% of the population, including patent examiners.


100 posted on 12/14/2012 11:57:51 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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