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Mitsubishi Reports Toyota Replication [of Iwamura's LENR transmutation of elements]
New Energy Times ^ | December 7, 2012 | Steve Krivit

Posted on 12/12/2012 4:54:03 PM PST by TXnMA

Dec. 7, 2012 – By Steven B. Krivit –

Researchers from Toyota Central Research and Development Laboratories performed an independent replication of a Mitsubishi low-energy nuclear reaction transmutation experiment, according to a physicist from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries speaking at the American Nuclear Society LENR session on Nov. 14 in San Diego, Calif.

The physicist, Yasuhiro Iwamura, told the ANS audience that the Toyota researchers confirmed that nuclear changes from one element to another took place without the use of high-energy nuclear physics. Most scientists who have not followed this field closely consider such profound claims inconceivable. Toyota used a LENR deuterium-permeation transmutation method that Iwamura invented.

Iwamura has been working with this LENR method for 14 years. He said that one of his LENR transmutations was closely but not identically replicated by Toyota. Osaka University and Iwate University previously reported similar replications.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.newenergytimes.net ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; invention; kevmo; lenr; mitsubishi; physics; realscience; stringtheory; toyota; transmutation
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Dr. Iwamura actually reported on Mitsubishi's success in transmuting six (6) elememts (Na to Al, Ca to Ti, Sr to Mo, Cs to Pr, Ba to Sm and W to Os or Pt.) He also commented that heat was generated,-- but did not elaborate on that aspect of the research.

In all cases the transmutations of elements to other elements with higher atomic numbers were achieved at room temperature and one atmosphere of pressure by means of deuterium diffusion through a multilayer thin film sandwich of palladium (Pd) and Calcium Oxide (CaO).

Much of Krivit's article is "behind a paywall", but the video of Iwamura's paper presentation at an American Nuclear Society meeting (with Krivit presiding) can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VefCEaLAkRw&feature=player_embedded.

Iwamura's Japanese-accented English is quite good, but may be difficult to follow. His figures and explanation, however are quite convincing.

IMO, as a physical chemist, I find this straightforward report of serious, replicated research on LENR physics to be a welcome change from the hype that frequently accompanies discussions of "cold fusion"...

1 posted on 12/12/2012 4:54:13 PM PST by TXnMA
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To: TXnMA

In what amounts were the transmutations?........


2 posted on 12/12/2012 4:59:35 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: TXnMA

Any word on turning lead or mercury into gold?


3 posted on 12/12/2012 5:04:42 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Wonder Warthog; Kevmo; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Red Badger; Moonman62
Heads up to no-nonsense, no hype reporting of solid research on LENR phenomena -- by Mitsubishi, with replication by Toyota researchers. The transmutations reported are shown below:


4 posted on 12/12/2012 5:04:57 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
"W to Os or Pt"

I like that one. Alchemy rulz!

5 posted on 12/12/2012 5:05:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Of course the Chinese and others are working on turning Au into W.


6 posted on 12/12/2012 5:07:45 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: TXnMA

Sounds like Cold Fusion.


7 posted on 12/12/2012 5:08:36 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

And what does this all mean in terms of impact on daily life?


8 posted on 12/12/2012 5:08:49 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Paladin2

I notice that most of the transmutations are across two atomic weights. In that case, to get gold you have to start with iridium. Unfortunately, there aint a lot of iridium floating around on earth.......


9 posted on 12/12/2012 5:10:24 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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This makes me wonder about something. Currently, it is believed that all the elements on the earth were created in supernova. Is it possible that this transmutation may happen naturally, and at least some of our heavier elements came to be on their own in 4.5 billion years?


10 posted on 12/12/2012 5:10:24 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Red Badger
I didn't catch that Iwamura reported conversion amounts specifically. Ratios might be deduced from some of his graphs, however. I do know that one of Mitsubishi's stated goals was a means of rendering cesium byproducts in nuclear waste harmless...

I'll watch and (laboriously) listen to the video again to see what else I can extract...

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FWIW, I'm going offline for an hour or more now...

11 posted on 12/12/2012 5:10:39 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Walkingfeather

If it is true, PLATINUM is going to get very cheap........


12 posted on 12/12/2012 5:12:30 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger
Actually that span is (generally) two atomic numbers...
13 posted on 12/12/2012 5:19:03 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Paladin2

Indeed, it does...


14 posted on 12/12/2012 5:21:54 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: dsrtsage

Whatever heavy elements were in our neighborhood 4.5 billion years ago were mostly sucked up by the Sun and outer planets. The ones like gold and uranium, lead, etc. probably sank into the molten core of the earth when it’s surface was still molten, only to be diffused into the mantle and eventually the crust through volcanic action over the epochs.........


15 posted on 12/12/2012 5:22:52 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: TXnMA

Yes, thank you for reminding me........The last chemistry class I had was in 1971........


16 posted on 12/12/2012 5:25:08 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Walkingfeather
"And what does this all mean in terms of impact on daily life?"

Trivial impact -- sort of like that of "E=MC2"... </SARCASM>

17 posted on 12/12/2012 5:30:01 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Does this mean I get a nuclear powered Tundra?


18 posted on 12/12/2012 5:31:18 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: TXnMA

E = mc^2 is why you have the Internet and the entire planet connected today.


19 posted on 12/12/2012 5:39:05 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: TXnMA

I haven’t been following LENR, but this would seem to be a Big F’n Deal, to quote Plugs.

Even if the energy output is less than the input, being able to change elements like this would seem to be pretty extraordinary under these conditions.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 5:40:53 PM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Red Badger

Oh noes!! My PPLT stock will plummet.


21 posted on 12/12/2012 5:44:55 PM PST by BipolarBob (Riding my stick horse grinning like an idiot.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
"Does this mean I get a nuclear powered Tundra?"

Sorry, but I loaned my crystal ball to my granddaughter. '-)

Actually, your question is sorta like asking the guy who discovered that petroleum will burn if you can have a Maserati...

22 posted on 12/12/2012 5:48:56 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: chrisser

I have always thought that this process will lead to a new understanding of nuclear physics. It implies that you could have a nuclear generator (without radiation) in your basement generating electricity for quite a few years unattended.


23 posted on 12/12/2012 5:50:18 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: James C. Bennett

FReepMail for you...


24 posted on 12/12/2012 5:54:52 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: chrisser; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

To me, the excitement in this is potential understanding of deuterium-rich transmutations / formation processes for heavy element creation inside stars. IMHO, cosmological theory and the “big bang” explanation of Creation just got a whole lot more real...


25 posted on 12/12/2012 6:05:41 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Red Badger

I noticed that too. And platinum is very useful.


26 posted on 12/12/2012 6:45:30 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Red Badger
Almost all the heavy elements on the surface arrived later through meteor and comet impacts. Some of them arrived soon enough after the Iron Catastrophe to have been widely dispersed. Many others left discrete deposits behind ~ one is in the object referred to as the Golden Egg in the mouth of the Serpent Mound in Ohio.

NOTE: It was mined out long ago!

27 posted on 12/12/2012 6:53:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: chrisser; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
Slight re-phrasing:

To me, the excitement in this is potential understanding of transmutations / formation processes for heavy element development inside deuterium-rich, fusion-powered stars.

IMHO, cosmological theory and the “big bang” explanation of Creation (of the Earth) just got a whole lot more real...

28 posted on 12/12/2012 6:57:37 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Red Badger

I’m more than good with Platinum.


29 posted on 12/12/2012 8:19:22 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: TXnMA
Researchers from Toyota Central Research and Development Laboratories performed an independent replication of a Mitsubishi low-energy nuclear reaction transmutation experiment

I wonder what the State Alchemy Board is going to say about THAT?

Clearly it is a case of illegal non-State Alchemist activity as they are Toyota employees, not employees of the State Military of Amestris.

Such unsanctioned alchemy could cost one of them an arm and a leg...




30 posted on 12/12/2012 8:42:38 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI
I wonder what the State Alchemy Board is going to say about THAT?

Or Fuhrer King Barack?

31 posted on 12/12/2012 9:12:13 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: TXnMA; betty boop
Wow! This is huge! Thank you oh so very much for bringing this to our attention, dear brother in Christ!

Indeed, this opens a lot of possibilities concerning the big bang and Creation of Earth.

betty boop, I do hope you will reach out to Grandpierre (astrophysicist specializing in the sun) - I'm very curious to hear his reaction to this discovery.

32 posted on 12/12/2012 10:00:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: TXnMA

Great post!


33 posted on 12/12/2012 10:36:02 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Walkingfeather

It means in 50 years we’ll get all our power from Mr. Fusion.


34 posted on 12/12/2012 10:37:17 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: TLI
Trouth hath hym so, and it is no doubt, that the lover is to the heigher, and the heigher to the lower aunsweren.

The worcher forsoth of all myracles is the one and sool God, of and fro Whom Cometh all meruelous operacions.

So all thynges were created of o soole substance, and of o soole disposicion, the fader wherof is the sone, and the moone moder, that brought hym forth by blast or aier in the wombe, the erthe taken fro it, to whom is seid the increat fader, tresour of myracles, and yever of vertues.

Of fire is made erthe. Depart the erthe fro the fire, for the sotiller is worthier than the more grosse, and the thynne thynge than the thik. This most be do wisely and discretly.

It ascendith fro the erth into the heven, and falleth fro heven to the erthe, and therof sleith the higher and the lower vertue.

And yf it lordship in the lower and in the heigher, and thow shalt lordship aboue and beneth, which forsoth is the light of lightes, and therfor fro the wolle fle all derknesse.

The higher vertue ouer-cometh all, for sothe all thynne thyng doth in dense thynges.

After the disposicion of the more world rynneth this worchyng.

And for this prophetisyng of the trynyte of God Hermogenes it called Triplex, trebil in philosophie, as Aristotle seith.


35 posted on 12/12/2012 11:15:47 PM PST by BlueDragon (I sang Dixie as he died The people just walked on by as I cried...)
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To: BlueDragon
"...for the sotiller is worthier than the more grosse, and the thynne thynge than the thik. This most be do wisely and discretly."

Chaucer? (Same linguistic period, at least...)

The above quotation describes Iwamura's experiments most excellently!

Thank you for the entire citation! Much relevance there...

36 posted on 12/13/2012 5:44:25 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Alamo-Girl
It even adds a bit of experimental reality to Sagan's "We are truly made of star stuff..." '-)
37 posted on 12/13/2012 5:53:16 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Any word on turning lead or mercury into gold?

The "osmium(Os) into platinum(Pt)" bit might be interesting. As would be the "tungsten(W) into osmium" reaction.

38 posted on 12/13/2012 6:06:41 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; Wonder Warthog; Kevmo
Thanks! I was moved to post it in response to this

The Inconceivable Embarrassment From Cold Fusion

dreck...

39 posted on 12/13/2012 6:10:56 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: chrisser
I haven’t been following LENR, but this would seem to be a Big F’n Deal, to quote Plugs.

Up to this point, LENR has been a disappointment, with Rossi's device showing a lot of initial promise, but dissolving into hype.

When heavy-hitters like Mitsubishi and Toyota start announcing results, it's time to grab a cup of coffee and pay attention. They would not risk losing face unless they had subjected their results to a LOT of checking and were sure it was the Real Deal.

40 posted on 12/13/2012 6:11:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: TXnMA

The title suggests Mitsubishi is building Toyotas now. What’s next? Ford building Chevys?


41 posted on 12/13/2012 6:12:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: The Antiyuppie
I noticed that too. And platinum is very useful.

Besides having a spot price about the same as gold.

42 posted on 12/13/2012 6:14:39 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Paladin2
I’m more than good with Platinum.

Yabut, what are you gonna do, pave your driveway with it?

43 posted on 12/13/2012 6:21:02 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Fresh Wind
What’s next? Ford building Chevys?

I don't know if they'd be any good, but at least they wouldn't go bankrupt.

44 posted on 12/13/2012 6:24:42 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: TXnMA; <1/1,000,000th%; Wonder Warthog; Kevmo
I was initially disturbed by the news of this only seeming to be reported in publications like "e-catworld" and such, but looking at Yasuhiro Iwamura's publications and citations, he seems to be the real deal.

He has also published on LENR with co-author Francesco Celani, who has critiqued Rossi's device

45 posted on 12/13/2012 6:31:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: TXnMA
Here's Yasuhiro Iwamura's 2006 paper "Observation of Nuclear Transmutation Induced by Deuterium Permeation through Pd Complex" .

It's hosted on Mitsubishi Heavy Industry's research page, which gives me a warm fuzzy.

46 posted on 12/13/2012 6:41:41 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

THE single best starting point if you are unfamiliar with “cold fusion” is this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Excess-Heat-Fusion-Research-Prevailed/dp/0967854830

Beaudette writes clearly enough for the non-science layman to understand, but includes sufficient depth that the practicing scientist will also benefit.


47 posted on 12/13/2012 8:44:11 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: TXnMA
Ah, now I can get through. I see you made the connection concening the lighter elements. In the Mitsubishi experiments, deuterium being included.

I'm curious as to how much deuterium might be used up. Hydrogen itself is too stable. According to theory, one cannot get two of those to fuse..but instead, a heavy hydrogen (deuterium) fuses with a hydrogen atom. Or so I understand, what is said to take place inside a star.

Some other ancient alchemy-like text spoke of taking the lighter (in their eyes more noble) "air", and "casting it to the ground".

What the heck was all of that about? Are we seeing something like it, now?

48 posted on 12/13/2012 9:41:35 AM PST by BlueDragon (I sang Dixie as he died The people just walked on by as I cried...)
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To: TXnMA
Mitsubishi Reports Toyota Replication

Did they use a Honda Element?

49 posted on 12/13/2012 9:52:11 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: BlueDragon
I seriously considered posing Krivit's re-drawing of Iwamura's diagram of his setup

...but I was hoping folks would go to his article...

50 posted on 12/13/2012 10:29:00 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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