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Hospital Employee To Be Disciplined For Refusing Flu Shot
Fox 2 Now (Saint Louis) ^ | November 5, 2012 | Anthony Kiekow

Posted on 11/06/2012 2:39:18 PM PST by Altariel

WEST ST. LOUIS COUNTY, MO. (KTVI) – A Mercy Hospital employee is facing disciplinary action after refusing to get a flu shot.

The employee did not want FOX 2 to reveal her identity.

“I am scared to get the shot because of the proven adverse reactions people have had,” she said.

The hospital adopted a mandatory flu shot policy this year.

“It is in the best interest of our patients,” Chief of Quality at Mercy Hospital Keith Starky said. “We know that influenza is a leading killer for the elderly and it is just not a risk we can take.”

The policy states that employees can forgo the shot for a few specific reasons, including religious.

The employee refusing to take the flu shot said she is a Christian.

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1 posted on 11/06/2012 2:39:21 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

I work in a VA Medical Center. I don’t do patient care but am still required to get the flu shot and a PPT.

It is in both my and the patients best interest.

If I don’t like, I am free to move on.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 2:44:51 PM PST by mom4melody
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To: Altariel

My hubby just went to the dr this am to get him form signed - he always has some reaction and chooses not to get the shot. His is a contractor in admin for a hospital. They MANDATE that all employees get the shot... Still hoping to be hired.

on another note, our dr back in NY purports to have researched this: CDC combines influenza and pneumonia in their flu stats - influenza deaths are 7% of the total... so WHY are we mass medicating???


3 posted on 11/06/2012 2:45:14 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: Altariel

Aren’t these the shots that have poisoned people this year?


4 posted on 11/06/2012 2:46:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Altariel

A problem with no easy answers, as the flu immunizations are doubtless cutting down on the contagion of flu to already-ill patients in the hospital.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 2:47:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: Altariel

A long time ago I had a brief e-mail exchange with a nurse somewhere in a hospital on the east coast. The subject was flu shots. Here is what she said:

All hospital employees were required to get flu shots.

But there was one exception:

NO DOCTORS ELECTED TO GET FLU SHOTS and they were not required to do so.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 2:50:30 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: mom4melody
TB tests are common....

Flu shots...have not been "common" or mandated since I've been a healthcare provider.

The day my employer demands I take the "flu shot" is the day I tell them one of two things.....I've an allergy to eggs...or @%#$% off.

I'm probably a petri dish for colonized "bugs" right now....and they are worried about the "flu"? I've not HAD the flu for 25 years....And if I do feel sick...I don't go to work.

What are you going to submit to next?

7 posted on 11/06/2012 2:54:40 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Altariel

There was a huge study this year that analyzed dozens of flu studies over the last 50 years and found that looking at all that data, if you do not get a flu shot, you have only a 4% (four percent) greater chance of getting the flu than if you do not get the flu shot.

Given that in 2008, when there was no flu shot offered, because the strains they guessed (and they guess every year) were going to be bad, weren’t - the numbers of recorded instances (using the same reporting methods/guidelines they use every year) of flu WENT DOWN instead of going up.

This study also destroys the entire belief in herd immunization. It shows the flu shot is statistically worthless, for the amount of money and the fact people who get the shot still get the flu. Which also shows you that vaccination doesn’t mean you won’t get whatever you’re vaccinated against.

Flu shots are the biggest scam out there. We finally have a study examining 50 years of flu studies to prove it. And it was posted here on FR so you can search for it if you desire.


8 posted on 11/06/2012 2:56:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: RebelTXRose

I would only get a flu shot if they had one that had no “immune system accelerators” and just had the dead flu virus in it and nothing more beyond that.

I think the accelerators in the shots causes all sorts auto immune responses which lead to diabetes, MS, etc...


9 posted on 11/06/2012 2:58:32 PM PST by GraceG
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To: mom4melody
If I don’t like, I am free to move on.

Free to move on? In this economy? Yeah...right.

10 posted on 11/06/2012 2:59:22 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Altariel

Worked in a hospital years ago. Flu shots were not mandatory, but encouraged.

My charge nurse got it, I did not. She ran 104 temp for the next week. I never got sick at all.

Not big on flu shots.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 2:59:45 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: mom4melody
I work in a VA Medical Center. I don’t do patient care but am still required to get the flu shot and a PPT.It is in both my and the patients best interest.If I don’t like, I am free to move on.

Exactly.I worked in the ER of a large hospital for 20 years.I was in administration so I had no direct patient contact but I was still routinely in close proximity to patients.all too many of these patients were elderly,had chronic lung disease or were immunocompromised and a simple case of the flu for such patients can be a death sentence.

12 posted on 11/06/2012 3:00:14 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: mom4melody

Same here. When I worked at a hospital I was required to get a flu shot. It’s the only time I ever had one.

I agree. If you don’t like the rules, move on.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 3:00:26 PM PST by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: Altariel

My hospital is doing this. I don’t have a problem with it. If you opt out you have to wear a mask around the patients. Which is a lot more annoying then getting a shot.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 3:04:38 PM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Easy answer: the sawbones are not employees, they have “admit privileges” or “surgery privileges”. If the hospital tried to get them do something the docs don’t want to do, the docs just go somewhere else with their patients and the hospital loses out entirely.


15 posted on 11/06/2012 3:05:45 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Osage Orange
The day my employer demands I take the "flu shot" is the day I tell them one of two things.....I've an allergy to eggs...or @%#$% off.

Good thing you're not in Red Hampshire...most 'health care' systems in this state are MANDATING 'flu' shots for ALL employees...even paper-pushers who have NO contact with patients...people who are employed at sites that don't even have contact with the main hospital. Most are submissive sheep, fearing for their jobs; but others are justifiably angry.

16 posted on 11/06/2012 3:05:59 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Altariel

Sorry, if you work in health care, you are likely around people with weakened immune systems, and while you might shrug off a not particularly virulent flu, it could kill them.

If you want to kill people, you need to work in the Obamacare euthanasia ward.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 3:06:56 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Secret Agent Man
Flu shots are the biggest scam out there.

I took care of my elderly dad for the last 10 years of his life.I took him to his doctors appointments and stayed in the room during the visits because he was unable to understand what he was being told.Many times,he'd say after an appointment "I don't have to do what the doctor told me" to which I'd reply "and from which medical school did *you* graduate?"

So I ask you...from which medical school did *you* graduate?

18 posted on 11/06/2012 3:07:35 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: tsowellfan
I agree. If you don’t like the rules, move on.

In NH; many employees were given very short notice...in this economy; it's EASY to find another line of work in less than two months. Easy as pie.

19 posted on 11/06/2012 3:09:54 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: mom4melody

I work in health care. My hospital has three paths an employee can follow:

1.) Get a flu shot

2.) Wear a mask for the duration of the flu season

3.) Find another job.

I am completely on board with this approach. We have a few employees who wear the mask instead of getting the shot.

Their choice.

Ignoring the flu in a hospital is completely stupid and useless. It kills compromised patients, and makes those who aren’t compromised sicker.


20 posted on 11/06/2012 3:12:27 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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