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Many of you who follow my post have seen me use this quote to describe what can happen in a grid down SHTF situation:

"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working." "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon." Quark from: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998)

I have even gotten complaints I use it to much and that using a quote from a SciFi/Fantasy TV Program lessens the seriousness of the subject of preparedness.

Well read this quote from the AP story- Exasperation builds on Day 3 in storm-stricken NYC:"You can clearly tell at the office, or even walking down the street, who has power and who doesn't," said Jordan Spiro, who lives in the blackout zone. "New Yorkers may not be known as the friendliest bunch, but take away their ability to shower and communicate and you'll see how disgruntled they can get."

Sound familiar?  
1 posted on 11/02/2012 1:55:10 AM PDT by Kartographer
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FReeper null and void wrote this version of the quote:
"Let me tell you something about New Yorkers, nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their home theaters are working... but take away their creature comforts deprive them of food, sleep, hot showers... put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same, friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty muslim. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
2 posted on 11/02/2012 1:59:57 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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I usually ignore detractors to that quote - yes it is from sci-fi TV show- but is pretty well spot on.
Having read what happened in Bosnia and Argentina - Americans are much less forgiving when the amenities disappear


3 posted on 11/02/2012 2:00:06 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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I’ve got no sympathy what soever. It’s not like they didn’t know it was coming. Being unprepared is expected by the entitlement crowd... “government will provide”.

I’m always good for a few weeks just on your average day.


4 posted on 11/02/2012 2:03:10 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote!)
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Yeah, but they’ll still vote democrat. Hard to feel sorry for them.


6 posted on 11/02/2012 2:14:23 AM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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From the article, twitter responses: Via Twitter:

I was in chaos tonite tryin to get groceries…lines for shuttle buses, only to get to the no food left & closing early (link)

I’m not sure what has shocked me more, all the communities around me destroyed, or the 5 hour lines for gas and food. (link)

Haven’t slept or ate well in a few days. Hope things start getting better around here soon (link)

These days a lot of people are impatient because they’re used to fast things. Fast food, fast internet, fast lines and fast shipping etc. (link)

Glad Obama is off to Vegas after his 90 minute visit. Gas lines are miles long.. Running out of food and water. Great Job (link)

Went to the Grocery store and lines were crazy but nail salon was empty so I’ve got a new gel manicure and some Korean junk food (link)

So f*cking devastated right now. Smell burning houses. People fighting for food. Pitch darkness. I may spend the night in rockaway to help (link)

8 posted on 11/02/2012 2:19:41 AM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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This has become Obama’s Katrina. This will help defeat him.


12 posted on 11/02/2012 2:31:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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I heard a women on Fox News this morning from Jersey on a screed about the Stimulus Money wasn't used for Grid Infrastructure. If more are thinking like her, how do they vote if they have the fuel to get their...
26 posted on 11/02/2012 3:37:52 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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Within 3 days after Katrina, Bush’s admin had rescued 20,000 people from flooded neighborhoods

Within 5 days, they evacuated 40,000 people from New Orleans

Just sayin.


30 posted on 11/02/2012 3:45:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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New Jersey Is Running Out Of Gasoline And Police Are On Hand
31 posted on 11/02/2012 3:46:29 AM PDT by blam
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Shortages of food and fuel? This is an emergency. The government had better swing into action fast, before gougers and profiteers take over.

We need to deploy a minimum of 10,000 government inspectors backed by a similar number number of government lawyers to make sure prices are rolled back to a baseline level, as established by a new, comprehensive federal regulation that will developed over the weekend and published Monday, setting maximum allowable prices, profit levels, hours of operations, Davis Bacon and Buy American standards for all products going into the affected regions, and delivery preferences for majority minority and socially disadvantaged areas.

We would not want to impede ongoing relief efforts, but all businesses should be on notice that the new regulations will be retroactive to the week before the storm. All records must be kept and submitted to the Emergency Relief Price Board, and all businesses must be prepared justify their decisions or face treble damanges.

Only then can we be confident that the recovery will be fair.

33 posted on 11/02/2012 3:51:00 AM PDT by sphinx
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Drudge states that people are eating out of dumpsters on Staten Island. Were is Shep Smith's round the clock coverage as he cried and his mascara was running?
49 posted on 11/02/2012 4:45:36 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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It amazes me that people seem to expect emergency responders to be there, set up, the moment the crises hits. They too have to wait for the waters to subside and the roads to open before they can even begin setting up- hence the warnings to evacuate and stock up beforehand.


53 posted on 11/02/2012 4:57:09 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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I don’t understand why the National Guards from all of the northeast states are not converging on NJ with potable water, MREs, and emergency shelters.

Nationalize them, and get them moving.

What am I missing?


66 posted on 11/02/2012 5:41:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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That line from Quark rings so true!

I think I have finally convinced my Wife about the value or Prepping. She though I was a little nuts, but everything I told her about what is going to happen is not happening on the coast.


69 posted on 11/02/2012 5:56:13 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (I prep, therefore I will be.)
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top it off - bloomberg has diverted generators and personnel to support the NY marathon - instead of getting the necessary support to the people of NY. Priorities


71 posted on 11/02/2012 6:16:51 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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Basic Boy Scout preparedness.


90 posted on 11/02/2012 8:12:09 AM PDT by Leep (Are you smarter than a 7th grade math student and or Barack 0bama?)
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I recently wrote this article on Survival Podcast (consider the rest in quotes):

Somewhere in these articles, there is information about a WaterBob. I’m bringing this back up due to Christmas approaching.

A WaterBob is 100 gallons of good water in a smallish box. I have such a box stored in a bathroom. If a weather event (or anything) is about to happen that would threaten having good water or cause a loss of water, I will open the box and put the food grade plastic container in a tub and attach it to the tub faucet. One hundred gallons of water flows into the container. I close the valve and it’s ready to use for drinking or cooking, anywhere I need good water. There is an enclosed pump to hook to take water out as you need it.

If you just fill your bathtub without using a WaterBob, that is not good water for drinking or cooking. That water has residuals of soap scum, cleaner, sloughed off dead body tissue, dirt and perhaps bacteria. It could be used to fill a potty for flushing but that’s about it. You need as much clean/potable water as you can get, not contaminated water.

The cheapest place to buy a WaterBob is at:
http://www.hurricaneprepper.com/waterbob.html for $19.97

For that almost $20, you have 100 gallons of good water. That is such a good bargain – 100 gallons of water in a smallish box.

About a month ago, my sister-in-law was here and saw the box in the bathroom. She and husband don’t store water or food and think nothing is going to happen and they live on the coast where hurricanes can come.

She asked about the box, what it was, and I told her it’s 100 gallons of good water. Her husband, the smart engineer, was listening. The sister-in-law said she wanted one of those boxes so she could have good water if they needed it. I said, “How about I give one of these to your husband for Christmas?” He’s getting the box for Christmas, along with other survival items I will give them. I have ordered and received the WaterBob. I feel better they will at least have good water.

If you don’t have a WaterBob, please get one (do it for me so I won’t worry about you, OK? ) Then, think of your friends and family you give presents to, and give them a WaterBob – a gift of life.


91 posted on 11/02/2012 8:21:17 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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"I have even gotten complaints I use it to much and that using a quote from a SciFi/Fantasy TV Program lessens the seriousness of the subject of preparedness."

And Aesop's Fables should be casually dismissed because everybody knows animals can't really talk ;-)

109 posted on 11/02/2012 9:16:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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but but but they have a marathon and a concert, doesn’t that make them feel better?

//sarcasm


116 posted on 11/02/2012 10:12:37 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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I have a curiosity question: In a major SHTF event as the east coast is now experiencing the electrical grid is the first casualty, but what happens to the natural gas supply? Does it get shut down to prevent fires spreading through wide areas or is is left up to provide energy to homes w/ gas appliances?

The reason I ask is I have a 17Kw NG powered alternator which can carry all my 120 volt loads plus the 220 volt deep well pump. I'm good unless NG distribution is interrupted. The genset has LPG capability and if necessary I could run on that but I'd have to get set up first with a tank and more plumbing. I'd prefer the NG as a fuel source as I don't have any storage issues and I get a bit more power from the engine, with LPG you reach a point where you run out in a protracted situation and resupply may be difficult to impossible.

Your thoughts will be appreciated.

Regards,
GtG

PS I'm on two rural acres off a county road. We have a years supply of freeze-dried food for me and mine as well as other amenities.

118 posted on 11/02/2012 10:36:38 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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