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WEEKLY GARDENING THREAD VOLUME 38 SEPTEMBER 14, 2012
Free Republic | Sept. 14 2012 | greeneyes

Posted on 09/21/2012 10:12:37 AM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobbies
Greetings from Missouri. I am out of town at a conference, using a borrowed computer, and overdue for my next meeting. Hope you are all doing well. I will be checkig in Sunday to read and respond to your comments.

Have a great weekend. God Bless

1 posted on 09/21/2012 10:12:41 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


2 posted on 09/21/2012 10:14:36 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


3 posted on 09/21/2012 10:15:13 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: All

Sorry for the double post. LOL


4 posted on 09/21/2012 10:16:54 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The fall garden was coming along nicely other than the squirrels digging in it and USING TOOLS! Mr. b had hollered at one about eating the young sprouts coming up and the squirrel blew a raspberry at him. Then I walked out this morning to find they’d eaten the little spinach sprouts. I think it’s time for some squirrel stew.

Speaking of, yesterday, as we were eating lunch I looked up to see a hawk on the fence and then BAM! He got a bird that was at the feeders. It was hours before the other birds came back and they haven’t been here this morning.

There’s one row by the east fence that can’t seem to grow anything. Because it’s along the roadside fence, I’m cautious what is planted there so that had been for cole vegetables that can’t be snitched by passerbys, hungry deer and a few extra inches away from peeing dogs. It gets the morning sun but maybe the tomatoes are shading it too much in the afternoons though in the hot Texas summers a little shade is welcome.


5 posted on 09/21/2012 10:31:21 AM PDT by bgill
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To: greeneyes
Thanks for keeping the thread active greeneyes!

Having family over this weekend... It's harvest time! Everything, except the brussel sprouts are ready to go...

Frost warnings the last couple of nights, and the forecast is for snow/rain mix tonight. They say it's going to be a mild Winter this year... Yet all our trees are a flaming red and the geese are massing up around here for the Southern flight!

Mild? Maybe...

6 posted on 09/21/2012 10:32:33 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: greeneyes
Thanks for the ping, both of them. lol

We are getting our hot peppers still along with sweet banana peppers. We have a few small green tomatos: it looks like our mater plants survived the summer heat. I hope they decide to have a fall crop.

We have collards, cushaw squash, and butternut growing, along with 3 ghost peppers sprouts that are coming along nicely. This is our first try at fall gardening.

7 posted on 09/21/2012 10:48:54 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: greeneyes

Got the garden cleaned out and planted lettuce, turnip, radish seeds and put out some onion sets. I noticed very few earthworms this year. I guess they went deeper for moist dirt this year.


8 posted on 09/21/2012 11:09:48 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: greeneyes

Until just now I’d forgotten that I have a carrot patch somewhere beneath the tangle of weeds that used to be my garden. I should check on those.


9 posted on 09/21/2012 11:25:35 AM PDT by Augie
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To: bgill

So sorry to hear about the hawks. I must say: I hate them.

I’m spending most of my time babying my tiny fig tree that I planted a month ago. I want desperately for it to survive the upcoming winter!


10 posted on 09/21/2012 11:55:54 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: bgill

We have two bird feeders that keep plenty of birds and squirrels hanging around our back yard. Last year a hawk discovered our little friends and got a bunch of them. This year has been better for them. I think that feeding them has kept them from feeding on our garden, about 30ft away.


11 posted on 09/21/2012 12:11:09 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: greeneyes

Bumping for later...


12 posted on 09/21/2012 1:37:03 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: greeneyes
I lurk on the garden threads, usually days later because I've been busy volunteering at our YMCA. Here's a few shots of the flowerbeds I planted:






13 posted on 09/21/2012 3:17:14 PM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: neefer

that is just gorgeous! You did a marvelous job with the planting and arrangement-just gorgeous. What type of bush is that?


14 posted on 09/21/2012 4:53:51 PM PDT by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son.......)
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To: neefer

Beautiful! Thank you for posting photos!


15 posted on 09/21/2012 9:15:45 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: greeneyes

Thank you, greeneyes, for all that you do. Is JustaDumbBlonde OK?


16 posted on 09/21/2012 9:19:16 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: All
Usually, we are "Critterville" (squirrels, birds, skunks, deer, coyotes, etc.), but the last three weeks we have been "Tractorville". Our big tractor had a flat tire and that has been a bit of an ordeal. I did not know that tractor tires are filled with fluid (or weighted, but ours had fluid). This keeps the rear end of the tractor heavy so the wheels don't spin out while pulling heavy loads. Changing a large tire 3/4 full of fluid is a JOB. We got it off the tractor & into a pickup truck & took it to a tire repair shop. They brought it back out (empty), put it on the tractor, then pumped it back 'full' with anti-freeze and water. The tire only takes 15-20 lbs of air - the rest is fluid. The big tractor is now back in service with the bush hog on the 'back 40'.


Pumping up the big tire

THEN, Little Buddy, our lawn tractor, broke a belt on the mower deck Saturday before last. We've been blessed with rain so you can 'hear' the grass growing in the yard and field (we have a couple of acres to mow with Little Buddy). LB had to go to the shop and just came home yesterday. LB and I will be spending a lot of 'quality time' out mowing today - there is so much to mow (5 hours minimum) the sitting part of my anatomy will be numb. Anyway, that's our 'Tractorville' tale - The End. :-)


Little Buddy comes home - yay!

17 posted on 09/22/2012 5:48:33 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: MissMagnolia

I didn’t know tractors had filled tires either, never thought of it, until 1986 (?) when we had days and days of freezing weather. The watere froze in the tires. I guess in central Texas, they didn’t think the tires needed anti-freeae. LOL


18 posted on 09/22/2012 11:00:41 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: neefer

That is beautiful neefer. What kind of flower hanging down under the big leafed plant? Your trumpets are perfect.


19 posted on 09/22/2012 11:02:54 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: tillacum; Silentgypsy; murrie
Thanks for your comments. The large leaf plant in the first pic is Castor Bean. It was sent to me in a seed exchange and grows 10-12 ft. in one season in zone 5. In other parts of the world it becomes a tree and considered a weed. It's a crop in India, the largest exporter of Castor Oil. Botanical name is Ricinus Communis. Poison can be made from the seed hulls. Underneath is Amaranth, aka Love Lies Bleeding. It's a food crop in Africa & Asia - from its roots to seeds. I use the lanky Castor Bean plant to hold it up because the long blooms eventually pull it to the ground. I'll have to take a current pic - it's really cool.

Last two pics are Brugmansia, aka Angels Trumpet. Originally from S. America, it's naturalized all over the world including Florida. I first saw it grown at Niagara on the Lake and thought, "How did Canadians grow these gorgeous tropical plants?" In cold climates, they have to be heavily pruned, potted and placed in garage or basement. They're almost impossible to kill (unless they freeze) and grow quickly in the spring. If you're interested in cuttings, FReep mail me. I'll have to cut them soon.
20 posted on 09/22/2012 12:27:15 PM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: greeneyes

I would like to know WHO stole the beautiful piece of Texas holey rock I had set in my hosta garden, while I was on a 2 week vacation. It had been the “finishing touch” to set off my hostas and heucheras. The perp could have been (1) someone with African cichlids, because Texas holey rock is used to raise the pH level of African cichlid tanks or (2) a local total idiot. That rock cost $20 in a pet shop, and I’m still plenty steamed!


21 posted on 09/22/2012 9:05:34 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

EinNYC, what are cichlids: A type of fish. I don’t blame you for being steamed, about the theft. It must have been a beautiful rock.


22 posted on 09/23/2012 5:53:23 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: bgill

I would try planting some red clover this fall to turn over in the Spring (soil improvement). Then, plant with something that will do okay with partial shade. Of course, a soil test would be more scientific, but I’m too stingy.LOL.

I had a partial shade garden this year with some perenials. The ones that did ok were stevia, rosemary, parsley, lavendar, basil, and french tarragon. I even tried out a little black simpson lettuce and it grew in the shade in spite of the heat.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 8:35:03 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JDoutrider

I do hope it’s mild like last year here, because my winter garden produced more through June than my spring and summer put together.LOL.


24 posted on 09/23/2012 8:51:09 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Thanks for the ping, both of them. lol
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And a double your welcome to you LOL.

I only have a 3 pepper plants in pots, that I dug up from the garden when the rain barrels went dry. They dropped all the blossoms, but I finally have a couple of marble size peppers. Hope they do more before frost.

If I can get some peppers going, I’ll bring them in the house to finish up.


25 posted on 09/23/2012 8:56:33 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Hubby was digging around the other day too. IIRC, he went down a foot, and didn’t encounter a single earthworm. I am wondering if we should order some and repopulate our gardens.LOL.


26 posted on 09/23/2012 8:59:09 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Augie

LOL. Absolutely! I plant a few carrots every year. Never have any luck, but eventually I think I can get the hang of it.


27 posted on 09/23/2012 9:01:37 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: neefer

Wow. Great looking garden. Thanks for sharing, but it makes me jealous. Every flower bed we have is totally scraggly this year. LOL.


28 posted on 09/23/2012 9:04:23 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Your welcome. I have not had one peep from JADB. I do hope she is ok. If anyone knows anything about her, I hope they will let us know.


29 posted on 09/23/2012 9:06:30 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MissMagnolia

I did not know that about tractors. Thanks for sharing the story and pictures. LOL.


30 posted on 09/23/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: EinNYC

I pick the local idiot as the most likely guilty candidate.


31 posted on 09/23/2012 9:13:09 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Problem is, the local idiot doesn’t have a cichlid tank. He just sits out on the porch and smokes endlessly when he’s not using the front porch as his “office”. Doesn’t seem to have any regular job, just makes biz calls on his cell phone which of course I have to hear upstairs. He didn’t even buy the co-op, his brother did, and then just moved his bum brother in. The brother who actually bought the co-op still lives with MOM around the corner, and he’s 39. A great family altogether. I figure he might have taken the rock just for spite, being a bum and an idiot.

There is a community college down the street which draws plenty of sidewalk traffic as their students walk down the street. Perhaps one of them has a cichlid tank. The rock was not as viewable from the sidewalk as from the back. I wonder if one of the (probably illegal immigrant) landscape people took it for their own garden? That was $20 blown right down the tubes, and I had spent a whole lotta time picking out just the perfect rock, too!


32 posted on 09/23/2012 10:18:49 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: greeneyes

I think the drought drove the earthworms deeper and under my mulch piles. They will return after the soil cools and gets more moisture. I tilled the dirt after noticing the lack of worms. Usually, I don’t till if it is wet and they are plentiful.


33 posted on 09/23/2012 10:27:07 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: EinNYC

Spite is a MOTIVE!LOL


34 posted on 09/23/2012 11:18:48 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

How deep can earthworms go and still survive? That’s what Hubby and I were discussing. He dug even deeper than the 1 foot to 18 inches in some places and still no earthworms. I don’t recall how deep he did go.

It was a few days after several recent rains though.


35 posted on 09/23/2012 11:26:14 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I don’t know how deep they go, but remember seeing them in post holes when I was a kid on the farm. You’d get down to 2 1/2 - 3 feet in the clay and find them in the moisture. I also remember busting up and old slab in a pig pen and we found plenty under that. Saved a bunch and went fishing later in the day.


36 posted on 09/23/2012 11:44:56 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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