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Colour film of 1901, judged world's earliest ever, found at media museum
guardian ^ | september 12, 2012 | mark brown

Posted on 09/14/2012 6:49:33 PM PDT by lowbridge

There is not much of a plot –goldfish in bowl –but the scene and others from the same rolls of film were revealed on Wednesday as the earliest colour moving images ever made in a discovery that does nothing less than "rewrite film history".

The National Media Museum in Bradford said it had found what it contends are truly historic films from 1901/02, pre-dating what had been thought to be the first successful colour process –Kinemacolor –by eight years.

"We believe this will literally rewrite film history," said the museum's head of collections, Paul Goodman. "I don't think it is an overstatement. These are the world's first colour moving images."

The films were made by a young British photographer and inventor called Edward Turner, a pioneer who can now lay claim to being the father of moving colour film, well before the pioneers of Technicolor.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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Direct link to film footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0Vc5iRoLY

1 posted on 09/14/2012 6:49:41 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

The color is really good in that. Hard to believe it is that old.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 6:55:28 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: tapatio

The color looks much too good as well as the movement. This looks like the 24fps that became standard later. I can’t say it’s a fake but it does look very good for its time.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 7:00:24 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: lowbridge

Gosh! Look at the hats and ribbon sashes! The boys’ outfits are great, too.

I came across, years ago, of a pic of my uncle when he was really little (1930’s). Little sailor suit, hat, and long, iron-curled locks. It was a HOOT!


4 posted on 09/14/2012 7:02:40 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Bocephus hits a home run! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_vjPqAVzI)
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To: tapatio

TCM got a hold of it?
:p


5 posted on 09/14/2012 7:08:49 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: tapatio

The reason it’s so good after so long is that the images are black-and-white. Unlike colour images on film that are created using dyes, black-and-white images consist of grains of silver so they’re not subject to fading; properly processed and stored black-and-white images can last for centuries without fading. The colour is reproduced by projecting the film through filters which can be replaced when they fade.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 7:09:10 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: lowbridge

7 posted on 09/14/2012 7:10:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: lowbridge

Includes footage of primitive ancestor of NBC peacock. :)

It’s real and was done with filters; costly and considered a waste of time.


8 posted on 09/14/2012 7:24:42 PM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: xkaydet65
I can’t say it’s a fake but it does look very good for its time.

Per post #6, the reason it looks so good is that the frames themselves are black-and-white images that are not prone to fading. There was a very popular colour process for still photos from this era called Autochrome that employed the same principle; Autochrome plates were black-and white plates with colour filter "pixels" on the surface that also produced excellent colour rendition.

One of the reasons the colour reproduction was so good was that they used what's known as the additive process which is also used in video screens. The additive process works by mixing varying amounts of red, green and blue light to produce the desired colour. These systems were implemented by taking photos of the same scene through red, green and blue filters, then projecting those images through the same filters. The advantage was near-perfect reproduction of colours as the filters used for the exposures were the same ones used for viewing, but the drawback was that the photographer had to make three separate exposures then align three projectors, or in the case of Autochrome they sacrificed resolution because of the lattice of filters over the image.

Modern colour films (and colour inkjet printers) reproduce colours using what's known as the subtractive process. Instead of combining red, green and blue light to form the image, it works by starting with white light and using dyes to remove varying amounts of red, green and blue light. Yellow dye blocks blue light, magenta dye blocks green light, and cyan dye blocks red light. This is why you cannot print a colour image on black paper with an inkjet printer, because the white light is provided by the paper. The advantage of the subtractive process is that a high-resolution colour image can be created with a single exposure, because the surface of colour film has three layers of these dyes. There are several drawbacks, though, due to the fact that the dyes are not a perfect match to the original colours; the orange-pink background of colour negatives is a very complex and not-quite-perfect workaround for this. Also, because the dyes are organic chemicals formed during processing and are prone to decay, they are subject to fading (filters used in additive systems can be more easily engineered for stability and in some systems can be replaced), and worse still, the different dyes fade at different rates causing the colours to shift as the images fade. This is why most old colour photos look so awful; at the time they were printed they were almost as good as photos taken today on colour film.

In the case of the film in the article here, for cinema they rigged a system where successive frames of the film were alternately exposed through red, green and blue filters then projected through the same filters. Mismatches between the filters and the frames could produce some rather bizarre results.

9 posted on 09/14/2012 7:52:30 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Squawk 8888

A lot to take in on a Friday nite, but I’ve copied it for later and thanx.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 7:55:15 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: xkaydet65

Can you tell I was a photofinisher in a previous life?


11 posted on 09/14/2012 7:56:32 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Squawk 8888

No doubt!!


12 posted on 09/14/2012 8:11:09 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: lowbridge; nickcarraway; Perdogg

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks lowbridge.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 8:11:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lowbridge; mickie
I avidly typed in the YouTube addy....and got a message, "This video is unavailable. Sorry about that", with an un-smiley face thrown in for a bonus.

Gloom....I really wanted to see the video.

Leni

14 posted on 09/14/2012 8:15:10 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0Vc5iRoLY


15 posted on 09/14/2012 8:22:37 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: old-ager

BTTT, Thanks!


16 posted on 09/14/2012 8:40:53 PM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: lowbridge

Direct link to film footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0Vc5iRoLY

came up as not available,


17 posted on 09/14/2012 8:45:43 PM PDT by 1st Division guy
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To: old-ager; mickie; flaglady47
Thanks. Interesting....and colorful!

I particularly loved seeing the period clothes of the participants in the swing scene..

Leni

18 posted on 09/14/2012 8:52:18 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Squawk 8888
The additive process was used in the early days of video cameras. I just pulled out my 1978 JVC Color video Model CV-0001 that used the red, blue, green filters to augment the black and white video images and produced surprisingly good images on tapes. Even today, third century later, the tapes demonstrate remarkable color images.

When I told folks walking up to inquire whether I was doing a photo-documentary they were surprised when I explained the process and couldn't believe the camera was actually black and white and that filters could make a dramatic difference.

The camera is about 2.5” x 4.2” x 7.8”, weighs about six pounds and is separate from the recorder to which the camera is attached using a six-foot video cable. In total, the combination weighs about 20 pounds and was quite a load.

I've gone through about seven subsequent recorder cameras and each produces better results; but, I still remember fondly the early days but still wouldn't want to revert from our era with stick it in your shirt pocket convenience.

Thanks for the wonderful explanation that triggered this memory.

19 posted on 09/14/2012 9:01:55 PM PDT by snoopy 'n linus
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To: snoopy 'n linus

Yep, today’s still and video cameras still use filters on each pixel. The breakthrough came in the 80’s when they managed to place microscopic filter lattices on the video pickup tubes, enabling the production of colour cameras with a single tube- previous cameras had a beamsplitter and three tubes, one for each colour, and were costly and a beast to maintain.


20 posted on 09/14/2012 9:14:45 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: lowbridge

Explanation of restoration process for this film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XekGVQM33ao


21 posted on 09/14/2012 9:17:34 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: lowbridge; snoopy 'n linus; xkaydet65
Related, here are some Autochrome images which worked on the same principle. Autochrome was patented in 1903 and hit the market in 1907.


22 posted on 09/14/2012 9:27:55 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Squawk 8888

Bookmark


23 posted on 09/14/2012 11:07:04 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: lowbridge

What’s with the Brits and putting ‘’u’’in words like ‘’color’’ and ‘’labor’’? And why do they pronounce the word ‘’clerk’’ like ‘’clark’’?


24 posted on 09/14/2012 11:35:03 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Squawk 8888

bttt


25 posted on 09/15/2012 7:08:35 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: jmacusa

I read somewhere that after the Norman conquest, when many among the nobility were French-descended, they started adding the “u” and changing other spellings to make the words look French. Other examples include cheque and centre.


26 posted on 09/15/2012 8:17:47 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: lowbridge
Cannot be.

The world was black and white until 1943, when during the World War II war effort, the United States embarked on a intensive research effort to invent color. The navy realized that being able to see in color would allow naval spotters to recognize grey ships against the blue sea and sky more handily.

In 1944, the Pigment Project (as it was known) had a breakthrough and released color into the world.

Things have not been the same since.

27 posted on 09/15/2012 8:22:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: jmacusa

And they drive on the wrong side of the road too.


28 posted on 09/15/2012 1:28:36 PM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Squawk 8888
Yeah, and they say ‘’Pentagon’’ as ‘’Pentagen’’ with the emphasis on making it a hard ''g'' sound. Weird.
29 posted on 09/15/2012 7:56:27 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: lowbridge; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

NOTE: All people shown therein are currently dead.


30 posted on 09/15/2012 7:59:28 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: lowbridge

“And they drive on the wrong side of the road too’’<. I say, frightfully bad of them!.


31 posted on 09/15/2012 8:00:16 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Are they merely dead or are they really most sincerely dead?


32 posted on 09/15/2012 8:02:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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