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Weekly Gardening Thread Vol. 27, July 06, 2012

Posted on 07/06/2012 10:51:22 AM PDT by Ellendra

It's Friday once again, and our regular gardening threadmasters still seem to be MIA. If anyone has the gardening ping list, or if anyone can get hold of JADB and have her send it to me, it would be much appreciated. In the mean time, I'm going to try and rebuild the list. That's going take a while.

Welcome to the Weekly Gardening thread! Fell free to jump in, whether you're a master gardener, or have never touched a seed in your life, this is the place to have fun and learn! It's impossible to get off-topic, since this thread can range all over the place. So, pull up a lawn chair, grab yourself a lemonade, and join in!


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It's been triple-digits every day for most of the past week. Several places called off their fireworks displays due to the dry conditions. My poor berries are dehydrating on the stem, even though I try to keep them watered.

I've been trying to find things to be thankful for this drought for. Yes, I'm weird, but my list is pretty short, maybe you guys could help me? So far I've got:

1) The underground springs on my land are easy to spot now, since they're the only green patches in a field of brown. God might as well have circled them with a highlighter!

2) There hasn't been a trace of fungus or mildew infecting any of my plants.

3) I now can be sure that my zucchini is tough enough for a survival garden. Last year it handled a cold summer and a mildew infection and still kept going. This year it's taking the heat and drought and still going strong. Zuchetta Rampicante if anyone's curious, it makes for a great duel-purpose squash, but summer and winter.

1 posted on 07/06/2012 10:51:28 AM PDT by Ellendra
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To: Ellendra

Thank you for posting this. I hope that everything is okay for Justa, just being a busy farmer.

We are still getting many tomatos, large Big Boys, grape, and yellow tomatos, and banana peppers. We are starting to get okry on our 6 week old, 18” plants.


2 posted on 07/06/2012 10:57:16 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Scott Walker.)
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To: orsonwb; JustaDumbBlonde; US Navy Vet; dennisw; Red_Devil 232; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; ...

Gardening ping, any help rebuilding the ping list would be much appreciated!


3 posted on 07/06/2012 10:57:56 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Ellendra
My poor berries are dehydrating on the stem

I wonder if you could pick them and use them as you would raisins, or dried cranberries? Maybe throw them into muffins, or cook them in your oatmeal?

Anyhow, here are some names I remember off the top of my head:

tubebender, Diana in Wisconsin, rightly_dividing, cotton, Jabz, fan fan, Black Agnes, greeneyes, knittnmom, mtn climber, daisyjane69, petruchio, Red_Devil 232, Justadumbblonde, jemian, DollyCali

Good luck and thanks for doing this.

4 posted on 07/06/2012 11:01:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Ellendra

Gald your zukes are doing fine. Last year, mine were big and pretty but didn’t produce a thing. This year, the squash bugs got everything so had to pull up all the zukes, crooknecks, sweet dumplings and delicatas.

The little cherry and yellow plum tomatoes are doing fine but I only got one roma and not a single mr. stripey.

Did put up two batches of pickles (one dill and one bread and butter) this week so that’s something.


5 posted on 07/06/2012 11:03:15 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Ellendra
but summer and winter.

That should say "both summer and winter", my fingers were on auto-pilot.
6 posted on 07/06/2012 11:03:48 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: tubebender; Diana in Wisconsin; rightly_dividing; cotton; fanfan; Black Agnes; greeneyes; ...

Help needed in rebuilding the Garden Group list. Please send any names you remember to Ellendra.


7 posted on 07/06/2012 11:04:10 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Ellendra

afraidfortherepublic, greeneyes, Gabz, tubebender,bgill, Arrowhead1952, applegateranch, bean_counter, are some that come to mind, other than the ones that I see that you have. Caps may be needed on Mr.Bender and Applegate.


8 posted on 07/06/2012 11:04:39 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Scott Walker.)
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To: Ellendra

drought is rough! Been eatting silverqueen corn from my garden since June 27th. Sprouted indoors then transplanted. Live in fairfax va and thankful for the trees that fell on my house not doing too much damage.


9 posted on 07/06/2012 11:06:42 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: Ellendra

drought is rough! Been eatting silverqueen corn from my garden since June 27th. Sprouted indoors then transplanted. Live in fairfax va and thankful for the trees that fell on my house not doing too much damage.


10 posted on 07/06/2012 11:06:56 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: bgill

Sevin will work on that. Two applications and mine are gone completely. I keep checking once a week at least.


11 posted on 07/06/2012 11:07:02 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: rightly_dividing
I hope that everything is okay for Justa, just being a busy farmer.

Same here, it's not like her to vanish like this, without even a note letting us know she was too busy :(
12 posted on 07/06/2012 11:07:02 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Ellendra

I’m on the list.


13 posted on 07/06/2012 11:07:33 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Ellendra

Red will be on his brewing thread this evening; he may give you the names that he has.


14 posted on 07/06/2012 11:08:34 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Scott Walker.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Put me back on it!


15 posted on 07/06/2012 11:09:09 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: FiscalSanity; JDoutrider; MissMagnolia; bgill; tubebender; cotton; fanfan; Black Agnes; ...

Gardening ping! My apologies if some of you received this twice, we’re trying to rebuild the ping list.


16 posted on 07/06/2012 11:14:21 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...

I am sure JustaDumbBlonde is busy with some kind of farming or bee harvesting chores. I am pinging the latest ping list she sent me.

It has been hot hot here in NE Texas also. I got a late start on my tomatoes so have only harvested about a dozen so far. This heat has shut down their pollination so I don’t expect to see many more until the temps moderate.


17 posted on 07/06/2012 11:14:21 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: bgill
This year I've got zukes, zukes, and more zukes. Some of my plants are beginning to shrivel, but for some reason it has been just right here in MD for zucchinis. I have had great cabbages, some broccoli, the cauliflower did absolutely nothing (I think the weather and leaf hoppers did them in), but my cukes have started coming in great and started getting some good tomatoes. We had a nice rain last night which we need desperately in this hot, hot weather.

My pumpkin and winter squash plants are starting to take over (that and the weeds). I've only been working in the garden in the early morning because of the heat. Tomorrow it's supposed to hit 104, and that is just way too hot for me!

18 posted on 07/06/2012 11:14:29 AM PDT by gramho12
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To: Ellendra

Hi, Ellendra! I am thinking about being “thankful” in a drought. The only item I can come up with is you don’t have to mow dead grass. Plus, you “feed” the mosquitos in the early morning/evening water duties. I am so sorry about your berries. Do you have mulch around the plants (I’m thinking that may hold some moisture around the base?) Hugs, Mom


19 posted on 07/06/2012 11:14:53 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Ellendra

You have done well on posting the thread several times. I nominate you to be the official Alternate Keeper of the Ping List.


20 posted on 07/06/2012 11:15:36 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Scott Walker.)
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To: Ellendra
I was on the ‘garden’ ping list. I have been tooo busy to make comments, but have lurked to keep up on the movements of the insane leftist over these past few months.

My garden is surviving (barely) because I am still ‘fit’ enough to afford to water. Which I have spent an inordinate amount of time doing as I am smack dab in the middle of the ‘ring of fire’ over the vast fly over ‘midwest’. I have notice a clear vacancy of US in the flyover midwest whining and moaning about our drought!!!!!!

21 posted on 07/06/2012 11:16:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Adding you back in, thank you!


22 posted on 07/06/2012 11:16:31 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: goodwithagun

Added you back in, thank you!


23 posted on 07/06/2012 11:17:44 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Ellendra
I wasn't able to find any names but would like to put mine back on please. Hope everything is ok...

My husband passed away two years ago this past week, he was our gardener and I hardly know what I'm doing but my snap peas, cucumbers and tomatoes all seem to be doing pretty well, but my green beans are sparse and still really small. Maybe I bought expired seeds?? Giving it some good effort and trying to do my hubby proud, it feels really good and I know he's smiling down on me!

24 posted on 07/06/2012 11:20:06 AM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: Just mythoughts

Added you back in, thank you!


25 posted on 07/06/2012 11:20:48 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Ellendra

No help on positives for the heat.

Thanks for the zucchini info, I will have to try it next year or can I plant it this year still I am in Indiana near Indy.


26 posted on 07/06/2012 11:21:09 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ellendra

My pepper plants are in hot chile heaven! I’m growing Ghost peppers, Tabascos, Habaneros, Datils and Jalapenos. They are exploding with fruits. Even our tomatoes, which we grow in pots (we grow everything in pots since our space is limited) are giving us the best harvest we’ve ever had. I did manage to kill off a mortgage lifter but an autopsy showed that death was due to drowning. We put the pot in a tray that was too small so it blocked the drain holes and didn’t allow water to escape. We looked at the withering leaves and assumed it was from the 104 degree temps, adding more water to an already overwatered plant. When I pulled out the plant to reuse the pot I saw nothing but mud. Now we are using that pot for a transplanted Ghost Pepper plant. We will have a record harvest and the combination of blistering heat and good soakings will turn the fruits into little fireballs.

I read a post in last week’s gardening thread about starving Jalapenos to make them hotter. While I agree that overwatering them will make them milder they are still, after all, Jalapenos and their DNA will only make them so hot. Even if they wer 10x hotter than normal you still wouldn’t begin to come close to the power of even a Tabasco. For those of you who don’t eat a lot of hot stuff a strong Jalapeno may seem like a firestarter but the burst of heat is brief. Chew on a Ghost Pepper and you get an immediate burst of heat like a Jalapeno. The difference is that 15 minutes later it’s not only just as hot, it’s getting hotter, and it could be 45 minutes before the heat wears off.

Our one big failure so far is Missouri Wild Peas, which were sent to us by a generous FReeper. I’ve tried to germinate them in hot weather, in the shade, indoors, in soil and on moistened cotton balls. So far not one has germinated. Still have a few pods left to try.


27 posted on 07/06/2012 11:22:14 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Ellendra

Please add me to your/ JADC’s Gardening List; thanks!

carriage_hill


28 posted on 07/06/2012 11:23:34 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Got some much needed precipitation yesterday afternoon. It was a huge hail storm. The hail was so deep in places it has not all melted yet.


29 posted on 07/06/2012 11:23:53 AM PDT by MtnClimber (To the left wrong is right, down is up and backward is "Forward")
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To: Ellendra

Please add me to your/ JADB’s Gardening List; thanks!

carriage_hill


30 posted on 07/06/2012 11:24:28 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Ellendra

I grow a small survival garden in Las Vegas. It is productive with tomatoes, zuchini, peppers, melons. Cucumbers grow like crazy. But a lot of things can’t handle te heat and getting the watering right is a bear (easy to over water with poor drainage).

I put together a prepper gardening book called Going Galt: Survival Gardening, that is my own reference. It covers everything I could think of, I used to work for the Cooperative Extension and have a lot of sources. http://www.futurnamics.com/garden.php


31 posted on 07/06/2012 11:24:41 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Ellendra

Thanks for the ping Ellendra.

The bunnies demolished most of our sugar snap peas and our green beans. After trying again, and losing those as well, we finally put up a rabbit fence. I think we’ve thwarted the bunnies - for now - since our most recent plantings are doing well. Our tomatoes are all doing really well this year, so far. We haven’t harvested any yet, but hope to soon. I have garlic drying on the porch and we’ve got new potatoes and will be harvesting zucchini. I decided to try brussels sprouts again. We had a good rain several days ago. Temps are upper 90’s right now though. We’ll be hauling water again.


32 posted on 07/06/2012 11:24:41 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: GizzyGirl

Added you back in. I’m sorry to hear about your husband :(

Green beans usually start out sparse, it’s the picking that triggers them to produce more. Glad to hear the rest of your garden is going well.


33 posted on 07/06/2012 11:34:45 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Red_Devil 232

It is too hot here also so have to do much more watering than normal. My flowers and herbs are hanging in there, however.


34 posted on 07/06/2012 11:36:13 AM PDT by tob2 (November can't come soon enough for me.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
This heat has shut down their pollination so I don’t expect to see many more until the temps moderate.

I guess that's what's up with my tomatoes here in central Illinois, multiple days with temps in the triple digits. I haven't seen ripe tomato #1 yet except for a few ripe cherry tomatoes. I saw one lone butter fly in my garden yesterday and he had a canteen strapped to his little waist.

Lots and lots of blooms though.

35 posted on 07/06/2012 11:42:23 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Ellendra; Red_Devil 232

Thank you to both of you....


36 posted on 07/06/2012 11:43:48 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: carriage_hill

Added you in!


37 posted on 07/06/2012 11:47:11 AM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Ellendra; afraidfortherepublic

Afraidfortherepublic has a list on home page iirc.


38 posted on 07/06/2012 11:48:08 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying then or now!)
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To: Ellendra; JustaDumbBlonde
Hot! and Dry! here too. JustaDumbBlonde was interested in how the water crystals that I added this year worked out.

Well, this area is in a drought, and this week we are in a record setting string of triple digit temps with NO rain. I have hand watered my raised beds with about 1" of water once a week and the veggies are doing great. No signs of wilting or brownouts. These darn things really do hold the water in the soil where the plants can access it.

39 posted on 07/06/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
A few years ago I grew a Tabasco and those little pods are hot hot hot! It was prolific. I used just two of them in a pot of red beans and they made it pretty darn hot!

I also grew a Habanero Pepper plant and did not know what to do with them.


40 posted on 07/06/2012 11:55:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Ellendra

BTW, I was on the missing Ping list too.


41 posted on 07/06/2012 11:56:16 AM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: All

It’s been hot, hot, and hotter. All four of rain barrels are really low. Invested in a couple of soaker hoses earlier in the summer.

Work only in the morning because of heat. Am picking burpless cuck, zuch, green beans. Dug some new potatoes and onions whenever needed. Have harvested garlic, beets. Pumpkins and squash are gigantic.....watermelon doing well.

Church started a Praise Patch have been supplying members and those in community in need. Those who can donate a little for the local food bank others a gratias. We’ve named our garden the Annex as it suppliments the churches.

We need rain so badly for the farmers. Corn and beans drying up.


42 posted on 07/06/2012 11:59:53 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Red_Devil 232

I picked up some Habanero salsa at HEB thinking that it wouldn’t be THAT hot. Well, it was. Ouch!


43 posted on 07/06/2012 12:05:44 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Scott Walker.)
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To: Ellendra

Hot and dry here in Central Missouri. Today will be the 10th straight with a daytime high over 100°. Still no rain. Not good.


44 posted on 07/06/2012 12:06:58 PM PDT by Augie
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To: Petruchio

Added you back in, thank you!


45 posted on 07/06/2012 12:17:22 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: hoosiermama; Ellendra

No, I don’t have a list of the Garden group — just a Wisconsin interest list.


46 posted on 07/06/2012 12:22:12 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: hoosiermama

Afraid has the Wisconsin ping list. Not quite the same :) But thank you.


47 posted on 07/06/2012 12:27:23 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Ellendra

I should NOT be on the garden ‘ping’ list...thanks! :-)


48 posted on 07/06/2012 12:31:45 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Ok, I’ve removed you. My apologies.


49 posted on 07/06/2012 12:37:30 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Ellendra

No apologies necessary...I USED to be on it, but had requested that I be removed. Just want to make sure you have a ‘clean list’... :-)


50 posted on 07/06/2012 12:42:04 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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