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The Addictive Yet Deadly Spice (Military Deal With New Drugs)
Strategy Page ^ | November 25, 2011

Posted on 11/25/2011 11:13:17 AM PST by nickcarraway

The U.S. Navy is beginning a worldwide video campaign to let sailors know about the dangers of "Spice". This drug is often described as synthetic marijuana. The problem for the navy is that Spice comes from many manufacturers, varies widely in its purity and potency, and has unpredictable effects. The navy is particularly concerned about its use by crews of ships at sea. Sailors who are off-duty often find themselves being called to handle an emergency. That can be a problem if you've just done a bit of Spice.

The navy and air force are particularly hard hit with the popularity of Spice among their troops and even cadets at their service academies. So far this year, several hundred airmen and sailors (plus academy cadets) have been expelled from the military for using Spice and other illegal drugs.

Getting high has consequences. For the last two years, the U.S. Department of Defense has been cracking down on troops using recreational drugs that are not yet illegal. Spice, for a long time, was not illegal, but now it is. There is also a crackdown on the use of drugs that mask use of illegal drugs. Because of both these trends, the random urine tests no longer work as well as they used to.

Over the last few years, an increasing number of test defeating products have appeared on the market. The navy, and the other services, have responded by prohibiting troops from possessing any of these test defeating products. If this doesn't reduce the cheating sufficiently, the military may have to go to hair tests. Drug traces remain in hair for about 90 days, but it is more time consuming and expensive to test hair. There are also products (like special shampoos) that will reduce the effectiveness of the hair test. But the current products used to mask the urine tests are not a hundred percent effective, so people are still getting caught, and the military is making more of an effort to identify and punish dealers and distributors of these drugs, especially in ship crews and those who maintain complex equipment (like aircraft). This is what happened recently in the air force.

All this moved into high gear several years ago when the military realized that anyone caught using any substance that causes intoxication, had to be expelled or punished. These transgressions can range from sniffing glue (a legal substance) to the many organic substances and designer drugs on the market, that are not yet illegal (like Spice used to be), and may never be. The fear is that widespread use of these substances could lead to death or injury. Troops frequently handle dangerous equipment, or are responsible for maintaining weapons and vehicles (like helicopters or jets) which are very vulnerable to errors by the maintainers. Most equipment failures can be traced to human error.

But sometimes troops are allowed to use drugs to fight fatigue. For over a century, the solution has been amphetamines ("speed"). However, this drug can impair judgment, making the user more aggressive, for example. In the last decade, kinder and gentler medications have become available. With some of these, tests showed that user performance was degraded 15-30 percent, versus 60-100 percent for those who took nothing at all after 24 hours of being awake. While these new drugs did a pretty good job, the current dextroamphetamine was still a bit better. So amphetamines remain competitive.

Wakefulness can be a potent weapon, especially for commandos, or troops engaged in prolonged combat (like the Battle of Fallujah in 2004). Without these wakefulness drugs, you would have to either pull troops out of action so they could rest, or leave them in and risk having them make fatal mistakes. Either way, you have a problem, because there are never enough troops to get the job done. But with the wakefulness medications, you can solve the problem, for a few days, anyway. Prolonged use of these drugs is not healthy. But neither is being drowsy during combat. Such wakefulness drugs are generally not as useful for support troops, especially equipment operators and maintainers.

Islamic terrorists and the Taliban are, in theory, anti-drug, but they tolerate the use of narcotics among their fighters, as this often makes it possible for young, untrained gunmen to make audacious attacks. Drug tests on the bodies often reveal the presence of mood enhancing drugs, often large doses of methamphetamine (enough to make you fearless, not just more alert.)


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: drugs; dune; spice; wod; wodlist; wosd

1 posted on 11/25/2011 11:13:30 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve never heard of “spice”...but now I’m curious! where do I get some?


2 posted on 11/25/2011 11:15:52 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

Han Solo used to ship spice for Jabba the Hutt before he went on the run.


3 posted on 11/25/2011 11:17:42 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: nickcarraway

Dune?


4 posted on 11/25/2011 11:18:02 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: nickcarraway

Only "spice" I was ever interested in!!

5 posted on 11/25/2011 11:19:16 AM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Olog-hai

spice in this article sounds a lot like hash oil to me...yet i’m sure hash oil is detectable just like regular mary jane


6 posted on 11/25/2011 11:20:27 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

If you are serious be very carefull with Synthetic Drugs.......They are bad news from what I hear! But what you put in your body is your choice...Look around at a “Smoke Shop” store that sells Tabacco Pipes(Aka Bongs) and ask for some or look at a local convience store. Frankly from things I have read you are better off just getting regular weed....ME? I’ll just take a bottle of Bourbon!


7 posted on 11/25/2011 11:21:01 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Colonial Warrior

LOL

The partly black one always got my blood pumping.


8 posted on 11/25/2011 11:21:19 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

http://buyk2spice.net/


9 posted on 11/25/2011 11:21:49 AM PST by BullDog108 ("There is no way to refudiate her strategery, so they misunderestimate her.")
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To: mamelukesabre
Arrakis. The 3rd planet orbiting the star Canopus. It is here, and only here, where spice is found.
10 posted on 11/25/2011 11:21:49 AM PST by 12GA
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To: nickcarraway

He who controls the Spice, controls the Universe!


11 posted on 11/25/2011 11:21:49 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: nickcarraway
Sounds like the same stuff in hallucinogenic "bath salts."
12 posted on 11/25/2011 11:22:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: jakerobins

I’m only half serious. I prefer beer and irish whiskey. I never got into the drug scene. I will always maintain that the best drugs ever invented are fermentations of barley malt...be it english ale or irish whiskey.


13 posted on 11/25/2011 11:23:24 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

I will take a Belgian ale although an English will do!!!


14 posted on 11/25/2011 11:30:02 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: nickcarraway
I would thing the blues eyes of the users would give them dead away.

15 posted on 11/25/2011 11:34:54 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: nickcarraway
Sailors who are off-duty often find themselves being called to handle an emergency.
What the hell is he talking about? An off-duty emergency?
Getting a zipper stuck or avoiding a rabid prostitute with a Balisong (Butterfly) knife are about the only off-duty emergencies I ever saw any sailors handling.
16 posted on 11/25/2011 11:35:51 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: nickcarraway

Don’t they provide snipers with Benzos(drugs like Valium) to take in order to help keep relaxed for a steadier shot?


17 posted on 11/25/2011 11:35:51 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Kartographer

18 posted on 11/25/2011 11:38:56 AM PST by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off'...)
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To: nickcarraway

19 posted on 11/25/2011 11:40:32 AM PST by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off'...)
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To: GQuagmire

20 posted on 11/25/2011 11:43:40 AM PST by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off'...)
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To: mamelukesabre

You might be a bit late. There was this stuff called “K-2’’ last year but it was taken off the market. You can buy similar stuff at any or most ‘’smoke shops’’, places that sell tabacco and pipes(and the bongs, etc.) Most of it really does nothing at all or maybe a little light-headed feeling at most. DISCLAIMER: Information posted without personal experience of said product.


21 posted on 11/25/2011 11:50:06 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: 12GA

I was thinking of melange when I read the headline.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 12:03:52 PM PST by magslinger (Who cares if they are"electable" if they are going to govern like Democrats? -noprogs)
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To: mamelukesabre
“Spice” is now illegal but there are plenty of other brands sold as incense or potpourri. They're sold in small foil bags or jars at small grocery stores and smoke shops. Usually there is a subtle pot reference on the packaging. There are no restrictions or controls on what's inside until their contents are banned.

If one does smoke, they should smoke real MJ instead of this stuff. It is not physically addictive, completely non-toxic and has no proven long-term side effects. It has been used for thousands of years.

“Spice” is sprayed with unknown chemicals that could have been discovered last year. There are reports of death and addiction. A few months ago I overheard some kids talking about how they smoke it instead of MJ because of price but it gives them headaches sometimes. Sad

23 posted on 11/25/2011 12:33:19 PM PST by varyouga
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To: philman_36
Sailors who are off-duty often find themselves being called to handle an emergency.

What the hell is he talking about? An off-duty emergency?

For a sailor, an off-duty emergency might be, e.g., the ship sinking.

Regards,

24 posted on 11/25/2011 12:36:16 PM PST by alexander_busek
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To: nickcarraway

While it was still legal, all we could do to military who used it was slam them for disobeying a lawful order.


25 posted on 11/25/2011 12:45:46 PM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: The Pack Knight

26 posted on 11/25/2011 12:51:57 PM PST by NYFreeper
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To: nickcarraway

I rememeber hearing stories from fellow Marines about North Vietnam fighters who, especially during Tet, would drug themselves up, tie tourniquets around all their limbs, and then charge over Constantine wire with AKs. They would get shot multiple times and keep coming. One scared lance on watch one night woke up his sergeant who then proceeded to stop a drugged up guerrilla by blowing him to pieces with an M203 (M16 w/ grenade launcher).


27 posted on 11/25/2011 1:06:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: philman_36
What the hell is he talking about? An off-duty emergency? Getting a zipper stuck or avoiding a rabid prostitute with a Balisong (Butterfly) knife are about the only off-duty emergencies I ever saw any sailors handling.

Off duty does not equal off the ship. Incoming missiles/gunboats, fuel-oil leaks, shipboard fires, man-overboard, .... just a few of the fun evolutions that can occur at ANY time.

USS Independence 92-94

28 posted on 11/25/2011 2:08:34 PM PST by ibheath
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To: ibheath; alexander_busek
The two of you have no sense of humor.
And FYI, heath, I was Navy as well. The butterfly knife joke should have been your clue.
29 posted on 11/25/2011 7:23:31 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: varyouga
If one does smoke, they should smoke real MJ instead of this stuff. [...] “Spice” is sprayed with unknown chemicals that could have been discovered last year. There are reports of death and addiction.

One of the many ways in which drug criminalization does more harm than good.

30 posted on 11/28/2011 8:47:49 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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