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ROOSEVELT BARS ORDER FOR UNION SHOP; LEWIS, MINE OWNERS CONTINUE PARLEY (11/15/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 11/15/41 | Louis Stark, Craig Thompson, Frank L. Kluckhohn, Daniel T. Brigham, George Axelsson

Posted on 11/15/2011 4:37:29 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread
1 posted on 11/15/2011 4:37:30 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Advance on Moscow – Operations, 26 August-5 December 1941
The Mediterranean Basin
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – Major Japanese War Objectives and Planned Opening Attacks
2 posted on 11/15/2011 4:40:56 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept

3 posted on 11/15/2011 4:41:53 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance

4 posted on 11/15/2011 4:42:47 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Billboard Top Ten for the Week of November 15, 1941

#1 - “Piano Concerto in B Flat” (“Tonight we Love”) - Freddy Martin, with Jack Fina
#2 - “Chattanooga Choo Choo” - Glenn Miller, with Tex Beneke and the Modernaires
#3 - “Elmer’s Tune,” Glenn Miller, with Ray Eberly and the Modernaires
#4 - “I Don’t Want to Set the World On Fire”” - Horace Heidt, with Larry Cotton and Donna & Her Don Juans
#5 – “This Love of Mine” - Tommy Dorsey, with Frank Sinatra
#6 - “Jim” - Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly and Helen O’Connell
#7 – “I Don’t Want to Set the World on Fire” - The Ink Spots
#8 - “Tonight We Love” – Tony Martin
#9 – “I Don’t Want to Set the World On Fire” – Tommy Tucker, with Amy Arnell and Voices 3
#10 - “Blue Champagne” – Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly

5 posted on 11/15/2011 4:43:55 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
President is Stern – 2-3
Defections at a High on Neutrality Vote – 3
The Day in Washington – 3
The International Situation – 3
President Will Sign Arming Bill Today – 3
Ark Royal Sunk Near Gibraltar by Axis Torpedo – 4-5
Ark Roya’s Crew is Calm in Sinking – 5
Prior Ark Royal ‘Sinking’ Revealed as British Ruse – 5
Three Who Wait and One Who Was Aboard Ark Royal – 6
Glass Wants President to ‘Shoot’ Quicker, Surer – 6
First Iceland Envoy Makes Call on Hull – 6
Roosevelt Orders Marines to Leave 3 Posts in China – 7-8
Russians Claim Leningrad Break – 8-9
Finns Voice Hopes of Avoiding Break – 9
Nazis Admit Raid on Eastern Reich – 9-10
Nazi Press Mission is Sent to Ankara – 10
Epic British Fight at Calais Related – 10
British Describe Commandos’ Raid – 11
Nazis Pass U.S. Tobacco for French Prisoners – 11
R.A.F. Fighters Harry Foe in North France – 11
Tricolor-Painted Snails Irk Nazis in Alsace Town – 11
House Vote by States on Ending Ship Bans – 11
Litvinoff’s Airplane Lands Safely at Baku – 12
Day’s War Communiques – 13
Group Here Urges Integrity of Reich – 13
6 posted on 11/15/2011 4:45:02 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/nov41/f15nov41.htm

Germans revive battle for Moscow
Saturday, November 15, 1941 www.onwar.com

On the Eastern Front... The German attack on Moscow is renewed. The plan stated is to involve tank forces which are to drive with converging attacks from the north and south of the capital. General Guderian’s 2nd Panzer Group begins advancing from Tula, while the 3rd and 4th Panzer Group will advance from the north toward the Moscow Canal. The infantry armies on the flanks are to make supporting attacks.


7 posted on 11/15/2011 4:52:56 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/15.htm

November 15th, 1941

UNITED KINGDOM: Minelayer HMS Apollo laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)

BALTIC SEA: U-583 sank at 2148hrs in the Baltic, near Danzig, in position 55.23N, 17.05E after a collision with U-153. 45 dead (all hands lost).

U-752 sank Soviet minesweeping trawler T-889/No 34 (ex-RT-3). (Dave Shirlaw)
U.S.S.R.: The German offensive toward Moscow starts again. Guderian’s 2nd Panzer Group attacks south from around Tula. North of the city attacks are made by the 3rd and 4th Panzer Groups. The Soviets have built up reserves and brought forces from Siberia. They will allow the Germans to advance while building up forces on the outer flanks.

Moscow: On the night of 6-7 November the frost which heralds the arrival of the Russian winter gripped the steppes of western Russia. The temperatures plummeted, but overnight the mud which had bogged down the German thrust on Moscow for the past month vanished. Today, with light snow on the ground but under clear skies, the Germans were able to resume their offensive. Winter has restored the mobility of the German armies, but it has also brought a host of problems which are bound to grow worse.

The cold, far more intense than in western Europe - with temperatures of -28 degrees Fahrenheit (-40C) - affects everything. Tank and truck engines can only be started if fires are kept in lit under the vehicles. Guns and vehicles become frozen in and can only be freed by chipping away at the ice with pickaxes. Weapons seize up because the oil in them freezes. Worse, only a small proportion of the German troops have been issued with winter clothing - a sign of the dangerous over optimism with which Hitler and his generals were imbued at the start of the campaign. The result is that frostbite is rapidly increasing the sick list.

Soviet troops, on the other hand, especially the Siberian divisions passing through the Moscow to the front, are used to these conditions. “General Winter” is an ally of the USSR, not Germany, and may yet deny Hitler Moscow.

EGYPT: Cairo: A “Special Air Service Brigade” which was formed in the summer has lost 32 out of 55 men in an attempted para-drop in a sandstorm. The targets - Rommel’s airfields - are untouched. The leader - Captain David Stirling, who proposed the idea of the SAS Brigade in July, was retrieved by another special force, the Long Range Desert Group. The LRDG, formed 14 months ago, comprises pre-war desert explorers practising deep reconnaissance with special vehicles. Stirling wants a partnership with it after this debacle.

HONG KONG: The converted passenger liner Awatea arrived here this evening, carrying 2,000 Canadian troops under Brigadier J Lawson.

The Canadians will boost the garrison in Hong Kong, but, as Churchill himself has pointed out, two semi-trained battalions are unlikely to deter Japan from war, but will merely increase the numbers of prisoners the Japanese can take. The Canadians seem only too aware of this. “Oh God, another Dunkirk,” Signalman William Allister said when he heard where he was going. “No fella,” another voice added, “at Dunkirk they had somewhere to go.”

CANADA: Patrol vessel HMCS Talapus commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.A.: Saburo Kurusu, an experienced diplomat, arrives in Washington to make a last-ditch effort to reach a compromise with the US. (Marc Small)

Minesweepers USS Portent and Prevail laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)

Marshall holds a press conference at which he stated that V Bomber Command constituted the “greatest concentration of heavy bomber strength anywhere in the world”; when queried over the inability of the B-17’s in the Philippines to bomb Japan and to return to Clark AAF, Marshall stated that the USSR would allow the airplanes to refuel at Vladivostok.


8 posted on 11/15/2011 4:55:53 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

“I Don’t Want to Set the World on Fire” occupied three of the top ten.

Interesting!

(The Ink Spots version is the best, IMO)


9 posted on 11/15/2011 5:33:25 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Today is Erwin Rommel’s birthday. He’s 50. In real time [2011], it’s his 120th.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 6:25:28 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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“I Don’t Want to Set the World on Fire” occupied three of the top ten.

That was also the case the weeks of October 25 and November 1. That happened at least once before in 1941, with three versions of "The Hut-Sut Song" in the top ten the week of July 5. That kind of thing hasn't happened during my pop music listening career.

(The Ink Spots version is the best, IMO)

No question.

11 posted on 11/15/2011 6:33:13 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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"Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept"

Big events are starting to happen, the Japanese fleet is beginning to move, but using their advanced Romulan cloaking devices they are able to magically disappear from Commander Joe Rochefort's Station HYPO RDF interception reports (Stinnett p134).

In barely two weeks Admiral Kimmel will ask his intelligence officer, Eddy Layton, about the disappeared Japanese ships: "Where are the carriers? ...Could they be rounding Diamond Head?"

Layton responded: "I hope they would have been discovered before then." (Stinnett p207)

They won't be.

12 posted on 11/15/2011 9:57:39 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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Headline: "Group Here Urges Integrity of Reich – 13"

Note the amazing thrust of this article: the group's speakers, including Eleanor Roosevelt, urged that after Germany has been defeated in war, it should not be destroyed, but rather its freedom restored and labor standards improved.

This from a country that is still allegedly "neutral", referring to another which has yet to lose a major battle.

13 posted on 11/15/2011 10:09:05 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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Kind of ridiculous for Stinnett to reference this to a Romulan cloaking device. It shows how foolish his work is.


14 posted on 11/15/2011 10:55:52 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Sauron was just trying to get his land back.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

15 posted on 11/15/2011 2:00:51 PM PST by CougarGA7 (Sauron was just trying to get his land back.)
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CougarGA7: "Kind of ridiculous for Stinnett to reference this to a Romulan cloaking device.
It shows how foolish his work is."

Not to fear... that Romulan cloaking device is my little attempt at ironic humor, not Stinnett's.
The real "cloaking" was done by bureaucratic snafu and who knows what other reasons?

16 posted on 11/17/2011 7:42:32 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

I know, I was just being sarcastic.


17 posted on 11/17/2011 11:37:07 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Sauron was just trying to get his land back.)
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