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TOKYO RUSHES SPECIAL ENVOY TO U.S. WITH ‘LAST’ PROPOSALS; 17 AMERICANS LOST IN SINKING (11/6/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 11/6/41 | Otto D. Tolischus, P.J. Philip, Charles Hurd, Daniel T. Brigham, George Axelsson, John Gunther

Posted on 11/06/2011 5:13:29 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
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1 posted on 11/06/2011 5:13:35 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Advance on Moscow – Operations, 26 August-5 December 1941
The Mediterranean Basin
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – Major Japanese War Objectives and Planned Opening Attacks
2 posted on 11/06/2011 5:14:19 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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John Toland, The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945

3 posted on 11/06/2011 5:15:06 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance

4 posted on 11/06/2011 5:16:51 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Diplomat is Flying – 2
Technicians on Way to Britain Aboard Ship Lost in Atlantic – 3-4
The International Situation – 3
U-Boats Roaming Labrador Coast – 4-5
Navy Plows Ahead, Shooting on Sight – 5-6
Red Army Halts Push on Moscow – 6-7
New Nazi Thrust Parcels Crimea – 7
Bessarabian Court Sentences Russians – 7
British Go All Out for Aid to Russia – 8
Turkish Warship is Sunk in Bosporus, British Hear – 8
De Gaullist Parachutists Seized in Western France – 8
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the War – 9
5 posted on 11/06/2011 5:18:19 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/nov41/f06nov41.htm

Stalin appeals to Russians
Thursday, November 6, 1941 www.onwar.com

Joseph StalinIn Moscow... Stalin delivers a speech for the anniversary of the 1917 revolution. It is noteworthy that he claims Germany has suffered almost 5,000,000 casualties and places Soviet losses at 1,800,000. He also invokes the help of the church to defend “Holy Russia”

In Washington... President Roosevelt announces that a loan of $1,000,000,000. is to be given to the USSR to help finance their participation in Lend-Lease.

From the South Atlantic... The US cruiser Omaha intercepts and captures the German blockade runner Odenwald, which is carrying a cargo of rubber from Japan, off the coast of Brazil. This is first successful action by the US patrols in the Atlantic.


6 posted on 11/06/2011 5:21:42 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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intersting that saburu karusu had an american wife, alice.
he continues to meet with Hull, and is the one who delivers the (late) final note, after Pearl Harbor attack has begun.

he is interred in Arkansas and later exchanged for the US Ambassador to Japan via Mozambique.

As far as I can tell, there has never been any evidence he knew in advance of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Although reading all of the above, it seems pretty clear that Japan is giving an ultimatum and the US is refusing to alter it’s position on the embargo, china, or axis power treaty by Japan.


7 posted on 11/06/2011 5:55:55 AM PST by beebuster2000
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Something has me suspicious that this Japanese envoy being dispatched to Washington is a head fake.


8 posted on 11/06/2011 6:19:21 AM PST by fso301
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/06.htm

November 6th, 1941

UNITED KINGDOM: Submarine HMS Token laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)

GERMANY: U-595 commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.S.R.: Moscow: In a major speech commemorating the 24th anniversary of the Revolution, Stalin today called on the west to establish a “second front” in Europe against the Nazis. He told a rally of Moscow party workers: “There is no doubt that the absence of a second front is making the enemy’s task easier, but we hope that a second front will be established, and in the near future, thus relieving the task of the Russian army.”

The delegates, meeting in the ornate marble hall of the Mayakosvsky Underground station because of the Luftwaffe’s continuous attacks, gave Stalin a thunderous welcome and cheered again when he told then that the Germans, who had been given orders to kill everything Russian, “would get their war of annihilation and would be exterminated without mercy”. It was a brave speech to make with the Germans hammering at the gates of Moscow, but Stalin was full of confidence: “Our army must win, and will win. The German army must be defeated, and will be defeated.”

There are three basic facts, he said, which will lead to Hitler’s army being crushed: “The first of these facts is the instability of German imperialism, and Hitler’s New Order. We are assured that Hitler acts like Napoleon in everything. I can tell you that Hitler no more resembles Napoleon that a kitten resembles a lion.”

“Secondly, Napoleon fought for liberal forces against reactionary forces. Hitler is fighting for reaction and will perish by the hand of the progressive forces.

Thirdly, who doubts that Britain and the United States will give us full support to conquer Hitler? .... Modern war is a war of machines. The war will be won by the one who has an overwhelming superiority on the output of machines. This is one of the fundamental reasons for the inevitable doom of the predatory Nazi imperialism. Our task is now revenge.” Today, at the traditional military parade before Lenin’s tomb in Red Square, Stalin urged the army to defend “Holy Russia.” The soldiers, in full battle kit, marched straight from Red Square to take their place in Moscow’s front line.

COMMONWEALTH OF THE PHILIPPINES: Brereton issues training order directing that all units were to work “maximum hours” and specifying that 40% of all training flights were to be at night. (Marc Small)

All but one of Eubank’s B-17 flight had reached the Philippines, the long hold-out being one with a bad engine dead-lined in Darwin.

U.S.A.: President Roosevelt announces a loan of 1 billion dollars (US) to the USSR for financing Lend-Lease supplies.

ATLANTIC OCEAN: Odenwald, a German blockade runner, is captured by USS Omaha off the Brazilian coast. She was carrying a cargo of rubber from Japan.
(Keith Allen adds): The United States had proclaimed a security zone in waters adjoining the Western Hemisphere, although this almost certainly had no real meaning in international law. On 6 November 1941 cruiser OMAHA and destroyer SOMERS, on patrol in the South Atlantic midway between Brazil and Africa, encountered a steamer showing American colours and the name “Willmoto, Philadelphia.” But her appearance was wrong for this ship, and the suspicions of the U.S. ships were aroused. The ship was in fact ODENWALD, a German vessel that had been in Japan since the outbreak of war, and was now running the blockade with a cargo of rubber and food. ODENWALD initially did not respond to challenges.

A boarding party was sent from OMAHA, but before it got there the crew of the German ship began to abandon ship, and hoisted a distress signal meaning “I am sinking. Send boats.” The Germans were in fact scuttling the ship. U.S. sailors boarded her and salvaged the ship. The legalities of this episode are ambiguous. Most authorities do consider the showing of false flags to be a legal ruse of war. The U.S. Neutrality Acts stipulated that any foreign ship that used U.S. colours would be banned from American ports for three months, but this law did not apply here. On the face of it, the U.S. ships had no right to board the German. On the other hand, the German ship had signalled that she was sinking and requested help, and the U.S. government argued that this made it a case not of seizure but of marine salvage, and in fact in 1947 the crews of the two U.S. warships were awarded prize money, the first time U.S. sailors had received it since 1839. Members of the boarding party itself got $3,000 each, a pretty hefty sum in those days. (66)


9 posted on 11/06/2011 9:01:38 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Yes... this is REALLY getting to be an intereting time in the papers...

As I suspected (but, didn’t really know) the war against Japan was not really a huge surprise.


10 posted on 11/06/2011 10:05:04 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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11 posted on 11/06/2011 11:23:09 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Sauron was just trying to get his land back.)
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