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U. S., BRITAIN AND SOVIET TO CONFER IN MOSCOW ON SPEEDING JOINT AID FOR ‘COMPLETE VICTORY’ (8/16/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/16/41 | Frank L. Kluckhohn, Cyrus L. Sulzberger, C. Brooks Peters, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 08/16/2011 4:49:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread
1 posted on 08/16/2011 4:49:20 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
German Invasion of Russia – Operations, 22 June-25 August 1941
The Mediterranean Basin
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – The Imperial Powers, 1 September 1939
2 posted on 08/16/2011 4:52:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept

3 posted on 08/16/2011 4:53:52 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance

4 posted on 08/16/2011 4:55:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Billboard Top Ten for the Week of August 16, 1941

#1 - “Daddy” - Sammy Kaye, with the Kaye Choir
#2 – “Green Eyes” - Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly and Helen O’Connell
#3 - “Maria Elena” - Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly
#4 – “Yours” – Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly
#5 - “Yes Indeed!” - Tommy Dorsey, with Jo Stafford and Sy Oliver
#6 - “’Til Reveille” - Kay Kyser, with Harry, Ginny, Jack, & Max
#7 - “The Booglie Wooglie Piggy” - Kay Kyser, with Harry, Ginny, Jack, & Max
#8 - “Intermezzo” – Wayne King
#9 - “Piano Concerto in B Flat” (“Tonight we Love”) - Freddy Martin, with Jack Fina
#10 - “I’ll Be With You in Apple Blossom Time” – The Andrews Sisters

5 posted on 08/16/2011 4:57:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Stalin Accepts Bid – 2
Text of Message to Soviet Premier – 3
The International Situation – 3
When History was Made at Sea: More Views of the President and the Prime Minister (photos) – 4-5
As Mr. Roosevelt and Mr. Churchill Worshipped Aboard British Ship (photo) – 6
Our Role in Pacific – 7
Knox for Submitting 8 Points to Congress – 7
Nova Scotians Think Sea Parley was Near – 7
Bitter Combats On – 8-9
Nazis Grow Vague on Ukraine ‘Trap’ – 9-10
Twofold Allied Program – 11
The Texts of the Day’s War Communiques – 12
6 posted on 08/16/2011 4:59:40 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/aug41/f16aug41.htm

Convoy escapes attacks unscathed

Saturday, August 16, 1941 www.onwar.com

In the North Atlantic... Since August 9th, 8 German and 3 Italian submarines have made repeated, though unsuccessful, attacks on convoy HG-69, northwest of Gibraltar.


7 posted on 08/16/2011 5:06:05 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/16.htm

August 16th, 1941

UNITED KINGDOM: Destroyer HMS Lamerton commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)

GERMANY: An appeal to housewives to donate unwanted rags and cloth for recycling is to end next week. They have been asked to bring their “textile scrap” to collection points so that it can be used to make reprocessed wool and cotton wool - both of which are used in the production of synthetic fibre and artificial silk.

Nazi propaganda explains that the money saved by recycling will be used for the armaments industry. But the people have been unenthusiastic, many fearing that a bottleneck in textile supplies will result in more rationing.

U-135 commissioned.
U-667 laid down.
U-88 and U-407 launched. (Dave Shirlaw)

ROMANIA: While defending the Ploesti oilfields from Soviet air attack a Royal Romanian Air Force Heinkel He 112 succeeds in shooting down a Red Air Force bomber. (Greg Kelley)

U.S.S.R.: The German I ArmeeKorps (von Both) of 16 Armee (Busch) takes Novgorod on the road to Leningrad. German and Rumanian forces of Heeresgruppe Süd (von Rundstedt) capture Nikolaev, an important Soviet naval base on the Black Sea. LVI. Panzerkorps is attacking near Dno, 75 miles SW of Novgorod. (Jack McKillop & Jeff Chrisman)

Moscow: An Anglo-Soviet trade pact signed here today was hailed as a landmark in financial relations between the two countries. Britain is granting Russia a £10 million credit at 3% interest. Whitehall stressed that this low rate shows that Russia is seen as a dependable customer. Considerable two-way trade is promised. The credit covers only the balance by which British exports to Russia exceed Soviet ones to Britain, and there will be similar credits when these are needed. Russia expects to pay cash for some imports.

The many thousands of Russian prisoners of war swept up in the great German encircling movements are being abominably treated. To some this is because the Panzer forces simply do not have the resources to cope with large numbers of prisoners.

They are often left to their own devices, without food, water or shelter. Many of them, having been forced to surrender, disappear into the woods and join the partisans.

Like the Jews, however, the Russians are regarded as Untermenschen [sub-humans] by the Germans and are treated as such. As far as the Germans are concerned, the Geneva Convention’s rules on the treatment of PoWs does not apply to the Russians.

Reports from the occupied territories speak of them being brutally beaten and shot if they show any signs of resisting their tormentors. Anyone thought of being a member of the Communist Party is shot out of hand. Partisans are hanged without trial whether they are in uniform or not. The ordinary German soldier has been given a dispensation from normal military law to deal with prisoners as he wishes. Disciplinary action for ill-treating or killing prisoners is only taken by unit commanders “for the preservation of discipline”. This reign of terror is not, however, having its intended effect. Even some Russians who greeted the Germans as liberators have turned against them.

Soviet submarines S-36 and S-37 are blown up at Nikolayev. (Mike Yared)(146 and 147)

AUSTRALIA: Minesweeper HMAS Geraldton is launched. Boom defence vessel HMAS Karangi is launched. (Dave Shirlaw)

PACIFIC OCEAN: The US heavy cruisers USS Northampton (CA-26) and USS Salt Lake City (CA-25) arrive at Rabaul on New Britain Island for a good-will visit.

CANADA: Corvette HMCS The Pas launched Collingwood, Ontario. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.A.: The presidential yacht USS Potomac (AG-25) with US President Franklin D Roosevelt aboard, arrives at Rockland, Maine. Roosevelt and his party disembark and board a train for Washington. Thus ends Roosevelt’s trip to Newfoundland to meet with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.

The Japanese Ambassador in Washington (Nomura) sends the following message to the Foreign Ministry in Tokyo: “As I have successively reported to you, Japanese-American relations have today reached a stage in which anything might happen at any moment, and they are likely to grow worse suddenly as soon as Japan makes her next move. That this sudden change will take place with Japan’s occupation of Thailand is a view upon which both Japanese and Americans agree.” (Jack McKillop)


8 posted on 08/16/2011 5:08:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Okay....maybe someone can help me with this.

We all know that FDR was handicapped & photographs were usually staged so that a wheelchair was not so noticeable.

However, in one of the pics on today’s newsarticles, there is a pic of FDR “standing” and shaking hands with Churchill.

Was FDR leaning on a crutch or using some sorta support for the pic? I presume so....

Thoughts?


9 posted on 08/16/2011 5:44:41 AM PDT by texanyankee
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FDR had leg braces, I would guess they were in use in the picture you mention.


10 posted on 08/16/2011 5:56:32 AM PDT by magslinger (Senator Olo Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern (RINO))
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Thanks, I guess I dont remember that.

However, I do recall he would use those metal crutches from time to time to stand upright.


11 posted on 08/16/2011 6:04:33 AM PDT by texanyankee
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Leg braces.


12 posted on 08/16/2011 6:33:13 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Those braces are the reason his pants are exceedingly long. The braces were painted black so that they would blend with his shoes and the long pant cut served to cover as much of the braces as possible. The press were very willing accomplices in helping him hide the extend of his handicap. He could walk still at this time with the braces, but it was incredibly slow and cumbersome looking, yet we don’t find any footage of that anywhere.


13 posted on 08/16/2011 6:52:39 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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14 posted on 08/16/2011 6:55:07 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: texanyankee

Do a search on “FDR leg braces.” Also check out how baggy his pant legs are in that photo.


15 posted on 08/16/2011 6:56:17 AM PDT by magslinger (Senator Olo Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern (RINO))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Interestingly enough, the first phase of Lend-Lease provided to the Soviets was handled mostly by the British and not the United States. This proposed meeting, when it takes place, will set up the first requirements for shipments to the Soviets between now and 30 June 1942. I’ll go into more detail on this when the conference occurs.


16 posted on 08/16/2011 7:09:18 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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Here's a copy of the Miles memo.

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17 posted on 08/16/2011 7:34:18 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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Yes, now it’s fairly obvious - especially when comparing the slacks of FDR to Churchill’s.


18 posted on 08/16/2011 9:05:56 AM PDT by texanyankee
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
August 16

Hitler and the Final Solution:

"Prior to Adolf Eichmann's 1961 Jerusalem trial, Captain Avner Less, an Israeli policeman, spent hundreds of hours interrogating the SS lieutenant-colonel, who would eventually be found guilty and executed for his crimes against the Jewish people.
On one occasion, Less questioned Eichmann about "written orders" concerning the "Final Solution," the mass murder of European Jewry.
"I never saw a written order," Eichmann claimed.
"All I know is that [Reinhard] Heydrich said to me, 'The Führer has ordered the physical extermination of the Jews.'"

"Recalling events that had taken place 20 years earlier, Eichmann was unsure about the exact date he had heard those words.
He thought it might have been two or three months after Germany invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941.
His recollection was firmer, however, about the chain of command.
Heydrich, said Eichmann, must have gotten his instructions from Heinrich Himmler, who "must have had express orders from Hitler.
If he hadn't had orders from Hitler, he'd have been out on his ear before he knew what had hit him
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"Coming from an SS officer who played such crucial parts in implementing the Final Solution, Eichmann's testimony--hearsay though it was on these points--is instructive because it involves issues that still puzzle Holocaust scholars.
Although Hitler's unrelenting hatred of Jews and his recurring rhetoric about "the destruction of the Jewish race" are thoroughly documented, orders about the Final Solution written and signed by Hitler have never been found.
In fact, such a document may not have existed, for Hitler relied on oral communication to give his subordinates broad authorizations to implement his wishes.

"Understanding what Hitler wanted involved interpretation of his tone of voice as well as his choice of words.
Citing an affidavit by Albert Speer, the Reich minister for armaments and war production from 1942 to 1945, historian Raul Hilberg puts the point as follows: "When he [Hitler] spoke 'coldly' and in a 'low voice' about 'horrifying' decisions 'also at the dinner table,' then his audience knew that he was 'serious.'"
Expert at interpreting Hitler, SS leaders such as Himmler and Heydrich took full advantage of their mandates to solve the "Jewish question" once and for all.

"There is little reason to doubt Eichmann's judgment that the Nazi annihilation of European Jewry depended on Hitler's orders.
As Hilberg says, "Hitler was the supreme architect of the Jewish catastrophe."
The Final Solution was simply too important and vast to be implemented without his initiative.
Precisely when Hitler expressed his decision, however, remains less certain.
He probably gave his orders some time in the summer of 1941, after the invasion of the Soviet Union and the Einsatzgruppen killings that had begun in June.
By the autumn of that year, plans for massive Jewish deportations and death camps in Poland were under way."

19 posted on 08/16/2011 1:06:32 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: texanyankee; PzLdr; magslinger

Also note that he has his left arm braced on the railing behind him, and he is gripping it with his left hand.


20 posted on 08/16/2011 5:08:54 PM PDT by PAR35
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