Posted on 04/04/2011 12:50:03 PM PDT by HardRightHook
The Republican Party and centrists have often lamented and derided illegal immigration. Rightfully so. Illegal immigration is a pariah. Those who care about people know that this unfortunate phenomena isn't good for anyone. Especially those trying to come to the United States. There are too many murders of all people involved. We must remember that while the immigrants are breaking the law, they are being murdered with a much higher regularity than any Americans caught in the crossfire or law enforcement seeking to curtail the practices. Often the immigrants are caught in a web of illegal activity that they never intended and this too is a shame.
In the first paragraph, I stressed this as a Republican issue because I do not believe that stanching the tide of immigration is necessarily within the realm of conservative thought. I see the idea of opposition to immigration as a counter to the Democratic Party support of illegal immigration. This is the problem with party politics. It eliminates the thought process and boils everything down into yes or no ideas. Immigration is far more complex than this. The benefits and detractors are far more complex than eschewing the immigrant simply because they broke a law by crossing the border.
The conservative mind looks at this in a more penetrating manner. What are the reasons behind the Democrats submission to the immigrant and what is the GOP's aversion to the immigrant? Voting Blocs. Democrats see a huge potential voting bloc that, with the political environment in their home countries will mean big votes for democrats OR at least it will force republicans to move farther to the left than the already are to pick up votes. The mistakes the GOP is making to eliminate the immigrants from society are profound. There is no forethought at all. Instead of seeking to eliminate the immigrant, we simply need to neutralize their status as a voting entity. I mentioned that there is no forethought to the elimination of illegel immigrants. Why would that be? It is because the US will see a population crisis in a very short time. Within the next 15 to 20 years, we will see the working population lose around 20 million skilled workers. What does this mean for our economy? Well, if we eliminate 20,000,000 x 45,000. This eliminates nearly a trillion dollars from the economy just in wages. It is clear that we need the labor if our economy returns to former glory. For nearly 20 years, we between 4-6% unemployment which is widely considered full employment. At this time we had massive hiring of illegals. If we have no new unskilled labor, our workforce retires, we have less overall investment,our economy MUST contract. Which means recession.
Does allowing immigrants to work in the US mean we have to make them citizens? Or even allow them to vote?? Of COURSE not. I believe that the best course of action for all involved is to create a work visa system. Under this plan I would promote that those who except the visa can do all they wanted in the US. They could stay, work, invest, do all the things most citizens do. They simply could not vote, nor could they except a tax return. This would be their punishment for illegal entry. The benefits of such a plan are profound. it eliminates illigration as a voting bloc. That is the big one. It identifies aliens within the system, eliminates the need for identity theft and tax fraud. Helps keep ag prices low, it weakens the immigrant lobby that seeks far broader rights than outlined here and helps to bolster our own economy.
It is time to release yourself from the bondage of Republican thought and look at the situation with clear eyes. Immigration is a necessary evil and one we can live with if we are sober and pragmatic about the process.
Foreigners who cross over our borders illegally are NOT immigrants. They are illegal aliens.
Late, but still in before the ZOT
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You’re exactly right. Well said.
This is one of the dumbest pieces I have ever read. Oh we’ll just let ‘em in to work, and they’ll never vote, dude! Uh, ever hear of a little thing called “birthright citizenship”? When those illegals stay and “only work”, they will have oodles of babies, ALL of whom are considered American citizens, who WILL most definitely vote, and whom, when they become adults, can immediately sponsor unlimited illegal and foreign family members to become citizens. For example, they surveyed 200 Chipotle Grill illegals who were fired, and they said that they had 767 babies while working in MN. Get it now? Your troll musings posing as ideas are idiotic.
We have a work visa system. It’s circumvented; not enforced.
Yeah. More Viking Kitties -
Where, and by whom, are illegal immigrants being murdered? Americans, who have committed no crimes, are being murdered every day by illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are being killed, by their own people, due to their own criminal actions. How dare you disrespect America and her true citizens this way.
Sure, I think we should aim for 20% unemployment of AMERICANS.
IBTZ!!
Ditto supporting Third Worldization through Puto Rican statehood.
Do you wish to be pung?
In other words, NO THANKS.
Liberal left & liberal right, is there a difference?
I think this was tried once before. Oh yea the roman empire did this exact same thing. Let’s ask someone from that great empire how that worked for them. Oh we can’t they collapsed.
It’s from an Aussie beer commercial, but it is pretty funny.
‘Tis indeed.
I haven’t missed the ZOT? Coolness!!!
Haven’t missed the zot yet.
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