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Why U.S. farm policy caused Egypt crisis
MarketWatch ^ | 2/11/11 | Thomas Kostigen

Posted on 02/11/2011 9:09:52 AM PST by illiac

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (MarketWatch) — The riots in Cairo are the result of United States policy gone bad. In fact, we — you, me, U.S. taxpayers — are to blame.

Strategic policy, I am not speaking of. Political policy, I am not speaking of. Nor am I talking about defense policy or other such foreign relations. The uprising in Cairo is about U.S. tax dollars supporting farm programs that wreak havoc on food prices worldwide.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: agriculture; alreadyposted; apologistsforislam; egypt; ntsa; policies; searchisyourfriend; shillingforopec; totalbs; troll

1 posted on 02/11/2011 9:09:55 AM PST by illiac
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To: illiac

Follow Up Article:
Why U.S. EPA ethanol policy caused Egypt crisis

It’s immoral to the highest degree.
Millions of people will starve to death every year going forward due to the watermelon enviros and the corn industry and cane sugar lobbies world wide for the coming decade.

We have entered into a trade oligarchy induced Malthusian framework which is artificially created to prop up the interests of a small number of very large Ag corporations.

It’s only a matter of time before the claims of ethnic genocide starts hallowing through the streets....


2 posted on 02/11/2011 9:19:50 AM PST by JerseyHighlander (p.s. The word 'bloggers' is not in the freerepublic spellcheck dictionary?!)
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To: illiac
Seems like it's more our stupid energy policy (ethanol in gasoline) than farm policy. Wasn't Algore a big ethanol guy? In any case we should not be subsidizing the use of ethanol in gasoline.
3 posted on 02/11/2011 9:22:15 AM PST by Upstate NY Guy
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To: illiac

Ben Bernake printing dollars and exporting inflation. Guess what - those chickens are going to come home to roost too. America is gonna see it with a vengence. Ron and Rand Paul are correct about the evil and illegal Federal Reserve.


4 posted on 02/11/2011 9:25:28 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: illiac

“Why U.S. farm policy caused Egypt crisis”

Now that’s a stretch if ever I saw one. Great comments to the article, by the way.


5 posted on 02/11/2011 9:26:46 AM PST by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: illiac

When the U.S. catches a cold, the world sneezes.

A couple milennia ago, Egypt was the breadbasket of Rome. But The Nile can’t compete with U.S.-subsidized grain. The New Deal needs to be dismantled.


6 posted on 02/11/2011 9:27:31 AM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: illiac

I remember in the early sixties when the government began paying farmers not to farm certain crops. Initially they were supposed to set a certain number of acres aside and not plant, say, soy beans. What the farmers would do was plant cotton instead. This was the first subsidy program. Even the farmers were laughing about it back then.

Now, of course, they want their subsidies. And as the world prices go up their subsidies will go up. I graduated high school with a farmer who gets more than a hundred grand a year in subsidies.


7 posted on 02/11/2011 9:32:42 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party. Stay healthy for the revolution.)
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To: illiac

Plenty of bad guys to go around here:
1) corporate ag
2) ethynol production from corn
3) excess farm subsidies (you need to subsidize a slight over-production to avoid shortage)
4) death taxes and the demise of the family farmer
5) land policy in Egypt
6) poor economic policy in our country and theirs
7) uneducated masses
8) dictatorships where they stick it to us on oil and we stick it to them on food
9) etc, etc (the list could go on and on- US - and me personally- should not take all the blame as the writer suggests)


8 posted on 02/11/2011 9:33:52 AM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: illiac

I just love it when they blame the taxpayers. Seeing that we are FORCED to pay taxes whether we think it’s being spent wisely or not.


9 posted on 02/11/2011 9:41:40 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: illiac
I am willing to blame ethanol for just about anything. Including the horrible half time show at the Super Bowl. (there has to be a way to blame that travesty on ethanol production somehow).

But it's quite a stretch to link Egypt’s events to ethanol.

10 posted on 02/11/2011 9:46:46 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“But it’s quite a stretch to link Egypt’s events to ethanol.”

Nobody is preventing them from planting their own corn.


11 posted on 02/11/2011 9:51:07 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
there has to be a way to blame that travesty on ethanol production somehow

Easy. Any country that subsidizes a process that consumes more energy than produced by the resulting fuel is dumb enough to have the Black Eyed Peas as a Super Bowl halftime act.

12 posted on 02/11/2011 9:54:43 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: HereInTheHeartland
You're right that it's “quite a stretch”, but I saw this coming after talking to someone locally. Both the nutcase libs who say we have to shed the automobile so we don't “need” ethanol and the corporate pigs at the subsidy ATM are all over it. You'll probably be hearing more of this stupidity before long.

Regards

13 posted on 02/11/2011 9:55:58 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: illiac
AFAIC, this guy missed half the story. He was right about the impact of quantitative easing on food prices, but completely missed the role of speculators in the price spike as well, and the two are directly related.

Speculators have loosely-controlled exchanges to play on now, and, given that currency policy has made a lot of other investments a matter of concern about long-term viability, much of that loose money is pouring into commodities, and jacking up prices as a result.

And I would venture that the price of fuel and fertilizer that spiked in 2008 and is spiking again this year is a larger factor towards inhibiting food production in the third world than American agricultural policy.

14 posted on 02/11/2011 10:00:19 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

“Any country that subsidizes a process that consumes more energy than produced by the resulting fuel is dumb enough to have the Black Eyed Peas as a Super Bowl halftime act. “

I like that idea.


15 posted on 02/11/2011 10:15:33 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Nobody is starving because of sugar cane production. In Brazil less than 3% of arable land is producing sugar cane and of that, only a third is used for ethanol. In the IS it isn’t the enviros who are pushing EtOH - it’s ADM, Monsanto, and the RFA. There is also what is known as the “blend wall”, which limits US EtOH production, and we are about at that limit. In the next few years we’ll see Miscanthus and cellulosic EtOH take off and people won’t be able to give corn away.


16 posted on 02/11/2011 10:41:31 AM PST by stormer
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To: JerseyHighlander

Genocide sponsored by progressive environmentalists, who want humans to be extinct. It’s the poorest among us who will die first. Talk about death panels!!!!!


17 posted on 02/11/2011 11:33:47 AM PST by abclily
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To: Frantzie

I’m no financial expert but how is it illegal for Congress to delegate?


18 posted on 02/11/2011 4:11:04 PM PST by Borges
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19 posted on 02/11/2011 5:45:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

>>>>We have entered into a trade oligarchy induced Malthusian framework which is artificially created to prop up the interests of a small number of very large Ag corporations.

It’s only a matter of time before the claims of ethnic genocide starts hallowing through the streets....<<<<<

I would submit that it is the socialist central planning land-reform orientated countries who have failed us and are causing the problems, not large Ag corporations - ie Zimbabwe,South Africa, Iran, Egypt, Argentina etc.

-——————————— Iowa Public TV

Sue Martin Analyzes the Volatile Commodity Markets

posted on February 11, 2011
http://www.iptv.org/mtom/story.cfm/feature/630

You have world coarse grains at 50-day supply and, of course, the tightest since 1973. U.S. corn days of supply is 18, with a stocks-to-usage ratio that’s about 4.9, 5 percent. That equals the tightest we’ve ever been in history of 1995 and ‘96. In the meantime we still have our year to go through, and you’ve got Argentina looking vulnerable because some of their crop did get hurt and they’re turning back hot and dry. So as they go through March, it’s going to be very critical to watch their weather, one for the later beans, the double crop beans, and two for the later corn as to how they end up faring out of their crops. And I think that, of course, Argentina is number two exporter in the world, a distant number two, and then Brazil is number three. But in the meantime I’m not too sure we’re going to see Argentina export corn this year.


-——example - Harvesting cotton by hand?? Hardly a winner!

The failures of Egyptian agricultural policy

Egyptian farmers collect the cotton harvest at a farm in al-Massara village near the Nile delta city of Mansura, in September 22, 2009. Egyptian cotton production is in decline, having this year reached its lowest in 100 years. (AFP Photo/Khaled Desouki)

http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/development/the-failures-of-egyptian-agricultural-policy.html


20 posted on 02/12/2011 9:05:57 AM PST by all_mighty_dollar
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