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Nazi spaceship film sparks UFO debate(Nazi flying saucers were real?)
Telegraph ^ | 11/17/10 | Allan Hall

Posted on 11/17/2010 2:52:32 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Nazi spaceship film sparks UFO debate

A new sci-fi film about Nazis has reignited a debate in Germany about Hitler's development of UFOs.

By Allan Hall in Berlin 1:05PM GMT 17 Nov 2010

The Finnish sci-fi comedy 'Iron Sky' centres on real-life SS officer Hans Kammler who was said to have made a significant breakthrough in antigravity experiments towards the end of WW2.

The film relates how, from a secret base built in the Antarctic, the first Nazi spaceships were launched in late 1945 to found the military base Schwarze Sonne – Black Sun – on the dark side of the Moon.

This base was to to be used to build a powerful invasion fleet and return to take over the Earth once the time was right, in this case 2018.

But a new report out this week in Germany in the magazine PM purports that there is "strong evidence" that a Nazi UFO programme was well advanced.

Hitler ordered Luftwaffe chief Hermann Goering to develop the super weapon that would change the war.

The PM report quotes eyewitnesses who believe they saw a flying saucer marked with the Iron Cross of the German military flying low over the Thames in 1944.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: ajntsa; flyingsaucer; nazi; spacegnatsies
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To: null and void; rbg81

ShockwaveS. schlock maybe, but I love it. Scared me silly the first time I saw it, when I was in my early 20s, alone one night, eeeeek!


81 posted on 11/17/2010 6:47:34 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Perseverance. In a confrontation between the river and the rock, the river always wins)
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To: Lazlo in PA
That was 65 years ago. You should see the stuff they've got now.


82 posted on 11/17/2010 6:55:26 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
poor new product roll-out team.

and after roll out, if some enlisted pig dog failed to properly tie down the anti gravity craft....

83 posted on 11/17/2010 7:30:22 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: The Comedian

I’ve never known what to think of that slice of history.

Plausible.

They were certianly into the occult.

Fallen angels and their craft would not have been a big leap.


84 posted on 11/17/2010 7:42:25 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Quix; Las Vegas Dave

There was at least one design of a conventionally-powered saucer shaped craft capable of very high altitudes and velocities; the flight tests took place quite late in WWII. Had Hitler been patient (and not an incompetent micro-manager of campaigns) Germany would have won the war. But thankfully, he wasn’t patient and did micro-manage. Thanks TigerLikesRooster.


85 posted on 11/17/2010 7:56:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That was roughly what I’d surmised but without any confidence that my sense was correct at all.


86 posted on 11/17/2010 8:39:12 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: SunkenCiv; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
Here's an interesting article:

http://www.archaeologydaily.com/news/201002173333/Prehistoric-UFO-and-ET-images-found-in-remote-cave-in-India.html

Rajasthan Times

A group of anthropologists working with hill tribes in a remote area of India have made a startling discovery: Intricate prehistoric cave paintings depicting aliens and UFO type craft.

ANCIENT INDIA CAVE PAINTING

The images were found in the Hoshangabad district of the state of Madhya Pradesh only 70 kilometers from the local administrative centre of Raisen. The caves are hidden deep within dense jungle.

A clear image of what might be an alien or ET in a space suit can be seen in one cave painting along with a classical flying saucer shaped UFO that appears to be either beaming something down or beaming something up, in what might be an ancient UFO abduction scenario. A force-field or trail of some sort is seen at the rear of the UFO.

Also visible is another object that might depict a wormhole, explaining how aliens were able to reach Earth. This image may lead UFO enthusiasts to conclude that the images might have been drawn with the involvement of aliens themselves.

Local Archaeologist, Mr Wassim Khan, has personally seen the images. He claims that the objects and creatures seen in them are totally anomalous and out of character when compared to other, already discovered, examples of prehistoric cave art depicting ancient life in the area. As such he believes that they might suggest beings from other planets have been interacting with humans since prehistoric times: Adding weight to the 'ancient astronaut theory' which postulates that human civilization was established with the assistance of benevolent space-faring aliens.

87 posted on 11/17/2010 9:12:52 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: dljordan
They have bases everywhere and they don’t like us. They’ll mutilate your dog and give you an anal exam you really won’t like.

It's sorta like going through airport security...

88 posted on 11/17/2010 9:20:08 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 666 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wondered if you were aware of this. Have you ever read the book, “Intercept UFO” by Renato Vesco?

http://www.amazon.com/Intercept-UFO-Renato-Vesco/dp/B001Q3ZOCY/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1290074548&sr=1-1

From what I can gather, he was the one who first gathered this info.


89 posted on 11/18/2010 2:17:17 AM PST by Kevmo (Has Obama resigned yet?)
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To: Kevmo

I’m not sure I’ve seen that particular one, but there are four similar titles linked there too, and some of them look familiar. I’m generally a little hesitant to accept anyone’s truth about the UFOs. :’) Reports of wartime encounters began in earnest in WW one, long before the Nazis; David Hatcher Childress (who is always entertaining, and that’s pretty much all he is) claims in one of his books that Marconi (the guy who stole radio from Nicola Tesla and was sued over it) had an entire research organization / secret society that built flying saucers, and were the source of the flying disk sightings throughout the 20th c — and colonized Mars, which is where this secret society is now based. :’) In the late 1970s there was a fringe mag (I forget the name) which published lots of books with wild stuff in ‘em; my favorite title was something like “Nazi UFOs in Antarctica”. :’D

The info I have in a book (and I hope no one expects me to find it in the near future, but it’s around here somewhere) about the Nazi flying disks was a cryptic little volume that discussed Nazi-era weapons from mundane developments like rifles that fired around corners using curved barrels (perfect for those city streets in the USSR) to the A9/A10 transoceanic missile plans, to the self-guided anti-aircraft missiles (Hitler didn’t like those either, and they could easily have eliminated the entire Allied bomber fleet), the aforementioned flying disks.


90 posted on 11/18/2010 3:42:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: null and void

“It’s sorta like going through airport security... “

Who do you think trains the TSA gropers? The have a secret training facility under Dulce, New Mexico.


91 posted on 11/18/2010 3:48:32 AM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: paulycy

One flight with that thing and she won’t be able to sit down for a while!


92 posted on 11/18/2010 3:54:02 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: Quix

That “wormhole” drawing looks like that planet-eating machine in one of the original series Star Trek episodes.


93 posted on 11/18/2010 4:10:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

INDEED.

Appreciate your responses on this topic.


94 posted on 11/18/2010 4:45:45 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Quix,
Have you read “Gravity’s Rainbow?”


95 posted on 11/18/2010 6:56:35 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Well... according to this fine production, they saved Hitler’s brain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M7nYq9uWKk


96 posted on 11/18/2010 7:06:20 AM PST by CodeJockey (Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very Internet he invented. Oh, the irony!)
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To: dljordan

Ah! That explains much!


97 posted on 11/18/2010 7:21:00 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 666 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

No. I haven’t. Is it worth it?

What’s the plot?

Maybe Amazon has it used.


98 posted on 11/18/2010 7:24:10 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Oztrich Boy
The Nazi Star Fleet.

Nazi Space Warriors.


99 posted on 11/18/2010 7:30:29 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: CommieCutter
there is "strong evidence" that a Nazi UFO programme was well advanced.

I think they would have won the war if that were the case.

Yeah - the incentives were so brutal Nazi scientists were afraid to develop 'the bomb' for fear that if they failed they would be killed or punished. That said I have no doubt the little monsters created some weird stuff - probably NOT anti-grav - or we would have had it by now - but other 'stuff'... There was a book out a few years ago by an editor of Jane's Defense on the subject of Nazi technology - I think it was the 'case for zero point' or some such thing.

100 posted on 11/18/2010 8:59:21 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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