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History and its woes: How Stalin and Hitler enabled each other’s crimes (Review of "Bloodlands")
The Economist ^ | 10/14/2010 | Unattributed

Posted on 11/05/2010 12:44:33 PM PDT by mojito

Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin. By Timothy Snyder. Basic Books; 524 pages.

IN THE middle of the 20th century Europe’s two totalitarian empires, Nazi Germany and Stalin’s Soviet Union, killed 14m non-combatants, in peacetime and in war. The who, why, when, where and how of these mass murders is the subject of a gripping and comprehensive new book by Timothy Snyder of Yale University.

The term coined in the book’s title encapsulates the thesis. The “bloodlands” are the stretch of territory from the Baltic to the Black Sea where Europe’s most murderous regimes did their most murderous work. The bloodlands were caught between two fiendish projects: Adolf Hitler’s ideas of racial supremacy and eastern expansion, and the Soviet Union’s desire to remake society according to the communist template. That meant shooting, starving and gassing those who didn’t fit in. Just as Stalin blamed the peasants for the failure of collectivisation, Hitler blamed the Jews for his military failures in the east. As Mr Snyder argues, “Hitler and Stalin thus shared a certain politics of tyranny: they brought about catastrophes, blamed the enemy of their choice, and then used the death of millions to make the case that their policies were necessary or desirable. Each of them had a transformative Utopia, a group to be blamed when its realisation proved impossible, and then a policy of mass murder that could be proclaimed as a kind of ersatz victory.”

(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: balticcountries; bloodlands; godsgravesglyphs; hitler; holocaust; nazigermany; pages; poland; sovietunion; stalin; timothysnyder; ukraine
I've read an excerpt of this book, and it was excellent.

I'm looking forward to reading the entire thing, if one can look forward to a reading up on such a grim subject.

1 posted on 11/05/2010 12:44:38 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

If you wish to read a gripping historical thriller on this theme, try Dark Star by Alan Furst.

On my list after I read this review.


2 posted on 11/05/2010 12:51:24 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: swarthyguy

Thanks for the recommendation!


3 posted on 11/05/2010 12:53:06 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Hitler and Stalin had much in common. Both had alcholic fathers who beat them senseless. Both had religious mothers who tried to protect them. Both encouraged their sons to enter the priesthood. Too bad neither one followed their mother’s advice. Millions of lives would have been spared.


4 posted on 11/05/2010 12:54:29 PM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: mojito

bflr


5 posted on 11/05/2010 1:08:16 PM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

From the book:

“As Stalin interpreted the disaster of collectivization in the last weeks of 1932, he achieved a new height of ideological daring. The famine in Ukraine, whose existence he had admitted earlier, when it was far less severe, was now a “fairy tale,” a slanderous rumor spread by enemies. Stalin had developed an interesting new theory: that resistance to socialism increases as its successes mount, because its foes resist with greater desperation as they contemplate their final defeat...”

My my. These rationals sound shockingly familiar.


6 posted on 11/05/2010 1:09:00 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

One question is: who financed them?


7 posted on 11/05/2010 1:23:29 PM PDT by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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To: tired1

“One question is: who financed them?”

Some of the same ones as:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/26vm56d


8 posted on 11/05/2010 1:48:22 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: tired1

One Guess


9 posted on 11/05/2010 1:55:41 PM PDT by STD (He walks like a he duck, he talks like a duck, yo' mama married two of the duckers, U a duck Boy!)
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To: tired1

Don’t forget Treaty of Rapallo. Hitler’s gold propped up Russia’s stupid economy. Stalin’s raw materials made Hitler’s war machine possible. Which worked quite well until June 22, 1941.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Rapallo,_1922


10 posted on 11/05/2010 4:36:14 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: mojito

“transformative Utopia” sounds familiar too, doesn’t it?
Has a ring to it.

I’m shocked, nay! I’m stuned!


11 posted on 11/05/2010 4:36:18 PM PDT by spankalib
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Thanks mojito.
Just as Stalin blamed the peasants for the failure of collectivisation, Hitler blamed the Jews for his military failures in the east. As Mr Snyder argues, "Hitler and Stalin thus shared a certain politics of tyranny: they brought about catastrophes, blamed the enemy of their choice, and then used the death of millions to make the case that their policies were necessary or desirable. Each of them had a transformative Utopia, a group to be blamed when its realisation proved impossible, and then a policy of mass murder that could be proclaimed as a kind of ersatz victory."
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12 posted on 11/05/2010 5:56:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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