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BERLIN AND LONDON BOTH RAIDED AGAIN; NAZI TROOPS TAKE UP POSTS IN RUMANIA (10/8/40)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 10/8/40 | Robert P. Post, Pertinax, Herbert L. Matthews

Posted on 10/08/2010 6:05:59 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 10/08/2010 6:06:02 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
German Fighter Range and British Radar Deployment
Marcks’ Plan, August 5, 1940
The Mediterranean Basin (Map 33)
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – The Imperial Powers, 1 September 1939

Plus a special guest map from Michael Korda’s, “With Wings Like Eagles,” showing the air defenses of England and Wales, August 1940.

2 posted on 10/08/2010 6:06:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept

3 posted on 10/08/2010 6:07:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Michael Korda, With Wings Like Eagles: The Untold Story of the Battle of Britain

4 posted on 10/08/2010 6:08:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
R.A.F. Rakes Berlin – 2-3
Raiders at London Every 10 Minutes – 3
The International Situation – 4
Soviet Seen Balked by Nazi Move; Drive to Straits Held Delayed – 4
Nazi Forces Guard Rumania Oil Fields – 5-6
Times Reported Expelled by Italy * – 6
Fleet Commander Confers with Knox – 6
Japan Urges China to Join Axis Pact – 7
Vargas to Inspect Ford’s Brazil Plant – 7
Mayor to Move Office to Old City Hall Oct. 25 – 7
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the War – 8

* Matthews’ Arrivederci, Roma opus

5 posted on 10/08/2010 6:09:30 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Battle of Britain Campaign Diary

Date: 8th October 1940


6 posted on 10/08/2010 6:11:22 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (It take a village to raise an idiot.)
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onwar.com doesn’t want to let me see October 8.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/08.htm

October 8th, 1939

UNITED KINGDOM: The anti-U-boat mine barrage in the Strait of Dover is completed and sinks U-12 today.
AF: During a patrol flight over the North Sea, a Lockheed Hudson of 224 Squadron of RAF Leuchars (N7217 flown by F./Lt. A. Womersley) destroys a Dornier Do. 18 flying-boat during a patrol over Jutland. This is the first RAF aircraft operating from the UK to shoot down an enemy aircraft.

Naval: Battlecruiser Gneisenau and other ships of the German Navy sortie off Norway to draw the Home Fleet within U-boat and aircraft range. capital ships Hood, Nelson, Repulse, Rodney and Royal Oak, together with the carrier Furious, cruisers and destroyers sail for various positions, but there is no contact.

FRANCE: 15.00 hrs two French airmen named Villey and Casenobe each shoot down an enemy plane, during a combat between 5 Curtiss Hawks of 4 Sqn. 2nd Fighter Group (the “Red Devil Squadron”) and 4 Bf 109’s. The first French air kills of the war.

GERMANY: Western Poland is annexed to Germany, and the land partitioned into five. Two new Reichsgau are formed: Reichsgau Danzig West Prussia, under the command of Albert Forster Reichsgau Wartheland, under the command of Arthur Greiser The remaining three partitions constituted of surplus lebensraum, two of which were added to the already existing Reichsgau of Silesia and East Prussia. The third remaining partition in Eastern German-occupied Poland was named the General Government and placed under the command of Hans Frank. (Jason Leech)

U-47 under command of Günther Prien set out from Kiel on the soon to be famous attack on the British Fleet at Scapa Flow. (Dave Shirlaw)

FINLAND: Voluntary evacuations from municipalities near the Soviet border begin. Some 50 000 people leave their homes. (Mikko Härmeinen)

U.S.S.R.: “Reich Germans” are resettled from the Baltic States to what the Nazis call their racial home. This was agreed to previously in the Soviet-German Agreement.

U.S.A.: Baseball.

ATLANTIC OCEAN: The USCG cutter USCGC Campbell joins the U.S. passenger liner SS Iroquois because of the warnings received about an attack on her (see 4 October). Later, the USN destroyers USS Davis (DD-395) and USS Benham (DD-397) also join and the four ships proceed to New York City. (Jack McKillop)

The Graf Spee sinks the British freighter NEWTON BEACH. (Navynews)

U-37 sank SS Vistula. (Dave Shirlaw)


7 posted on 10/08/2010 6:14:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://worldwar2daybyday.blogspot.com/

Day 404 October 8, 1940

Battle of Britain Day 91. Luftwaffe reverts to fighter-only flights (along with a handful of medium bombers), mounting 4 raids of 30-160 bomb-carrying Bf109s into Kent and towards London. RAF intercepts these formations as early as possible to minimize damage to the intended targets. The Messerschmitt pilots tend to drop their bombs quickly wherever they are challenged, knowing that the bomb-load makes them less maneuverable and more vulnerable to the RAF fighters. However, Government offices in Whitehall (Paymaster General’s Office, Ministry of Agriculture and Great Scotland Yard) and Charing Cross Railway Station are bombed. 1 Bf109 and 3 German bombers are shot down but RAF has a bad day losing 4 fighters (all 4 pilots killed). London, East Anglia, East Midlands, Portsmouth and Southampton are bombed overnight. Serious fires develop in London, at the wharves and warehouses of Bermondsey and LEP transport in Chiswick.

At 9.31 PM, U-58 hits British SS Confield with 2 torpedoes 88 miles west of Barra Head, Outer Hebrides, Scotland (1 killed, 36 crew take to the lifeboats) but Confield remains afloat. The next day, 5 survivors are picked up by sloop HMS Weston (which shells and sinks Confield) and 31 survivors are picked up by corvette HMS Periwinkle. In the Bay of Biscay, British submarine HMS Trident and U-31 exchange gunfire; Trident hits U-31 with the deck gun, causing some minor damage, but misses with torpedoes.

British Mediterranean Fleet leaves Alexandria, Egypt, to escort a supply convoy to Malta though the dangerous waters South of Italy. Battleships HMS Warspite, Valiant, Malaya & Ramillies, aircraft carriers HMS Eagle & Illustrious, 6 cruisers, 6 anti-aircraft cruisers & 16 destroyers escort 4 British steamers, covered by 6 submarines.

350 miles Northeast of Natal, Brazil, German armed merchant cruiser Thor shells empty British refrigeration steamer Natia which stops after a chase (2 killed, 83 crew abandon ship in lifeboats and are taken prisoner). Natia stays afloat on the empty refrigerated chambers but is finally sunk with a torpedo and 35 150mm shells. Thor now has 368 prisoners on board, outnumbering the crew. http://www.bismarck-class.dk/hilfskreuzer/thor.html

8 more old US Navy destroyers are transferred to Royal Navy for escort duty under the destroyers for bases deal brokered between Churchill and Roosevelt.


8 posted on 10/08/2010 6:16:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I’m a little confused. This is the second post referring to a sinking by the GRAF SPEE. But she was scuttled in 1939. How can she be sinking ships in 1940? Ditto Prien’s sailing for Scpa Flow. That op also took place in 1939. What’s up?


9 posted on 10/08/2010 8:48:36 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Did I do that yesterday, too? I will check. The site puts the same date from each year one after the other. I copied the wrong date for 10/8. Thanks for the catch.


10 posted on 10/08/2010 8:58:46 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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October 8th, 1940

UNITED KINGDOM:
Battle of Britain: Attack on Rootes’ works at Speke, Liverpool.

Losses: Luftwaffe, 14; RAF, 4.

Westminster: Churchill reports that civilian deaths from air raids, at one time reaching 6,000 a week, have halved.

“On that particular Thursday night 180 persons were killed in London as a result of 251 tons of bombs. That is to say, it took one ton of bombs to kill three-quarters of a person.

Statisticians may amuse themselves by calculating that after making allowance for the law of diminishing returns, through the same house being struck twice or three times over, it would take ten years at the present rate for half the houses of London to be demolished. After that, of course, progress would be much slower.”

USS Aulick (DD-258), commissioned as HMS Burnham (H-82), and USS Branch (DD-197), commissioned as HMS Beverley (H-64), USS Hunt (DD-194), commissioned as HMS Broadway (H-90), USS Laub (DD-263), USS McLanahan (DD-264), commissioned as HMS Bradford (H-72), commissioned as HMS Burwell (H-94), USS Satterlee (DD-190), commissioned as HMS Belmont (H-46), and USS Edwards (DD-265), commissioned as HMS Buxton (H-96), as part of the destroyers-for-bases deal. (Ron Babuka)

GERMANY: U-107 commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.A.: Baseball

* The motion picture “The Long Voyage Home” is released today. Directed by John Ford, this war drama, based on four short Eugene O’Neill plays, stars John Wayne, Thomas Mitchell, Ward Bond, Barry Fitzgerald, Mildred Natwick and Arthur Shields. The plot involves the crew of the freighter SS Glencairn as the ship sails across the Atlantic in the early days of World War II. The film is nominated for 6 Academy Awards including Best Picture (it loses to “Rebecca”) and five technical awards.

* The motion picture “Too Many Girls” is released today. Directed by George Abbott, this musical comedy featuring music by Rogers and Hart stars Lucille Ball, Richard Carlson, Ann Miller, Frances Langford in addition to Eddie Bracken and Desi Arnez in their film debuts; appearing in uncredited roles are Iron Eyes Cody, Jay Silverheels and Van Johnson (also making his film debut). The plot has four men being hired to protect a footloose woman (Ball) at Pottawatomie College in Stopgap, New Mexico. Lucy and Desi met while making the film and were married on 30 November 1940. (Jack McKillop)

The government advises US citizens in the Far East to leave.

Richardson again travels to Washington to protest basing of his fleet at Pearl Harbor. Meets with Roosevelt and argues volubly with him over this. (Marc Small)

ATLANTIC OCEAN: U-31 was attacked by the British submarine Trident. First the submarine fired 4 torpedoes, all of which missed U-31. When the British sub began to fire its gun, U-31 crash-dived. The Trident followed up with some explosive charges, but without result. This was the third time that U-31 was attacked by an enemy submarine during this patrol. The commander wrote sardonically in the war diary - “Main task of this patrol was to play the target ship for British submarines”.

U-58 sank SS Confield in Convoy HX-76. (Dave Shirlaw)


11 posted on 10/08/2010 9:00:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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"Although obviously shocked, Roosevelt answered mildly enough. Nevertheless, the admiral had pushed his luck far..."

In fact, Roosevelt was hugely tolerant of dissent and even threats to resign over disagreements.
So Richardson's statements here would not have particularly upset FDR.

Richardson's real problem with Roosevelt was that Richardson suspected the truth, and could not go along with it.

And that truth is seen in their discussion: as Richardson said and FDR denied -- the US Naval force at Pearl Harbor was not strong enough to deter the Japanese.

Both Richardson and FDR well knew: a military force not strong enough to deter attack was actually a provocation for attack on it.

Roosevelt needed a commander-patsy willing to sit and wait on a Japanese attack, and Richardson was not willing to be it.
FDR would have to find someone else to be his patsy.

12 posted on 10/10/2010 7:36:39 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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