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Abraham climbs down (Post from Lord Monckton)
Watts Up With That ^ | 7/12/2010 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 07/14/2010 10:02:54 AM PDT by Signalman

Once again I have much to thank Anthony Watts and his millions of readers for. My inbox has been full of kind messages from people who have now had the chance to dip into my point-by-point evisceration of Associate Professor Abraham’s lengthy, unprovoked, and widely-circulated personal attack on me.

Latest news – sent to me by two readers of Anthony’s outstanding blog – is that Abraham, inferentially on orders from the Trustees of his university acting on advice from their lawyers, has (without telling me) re-recorded his entire 83-minute talk to take out the very many direct accusations of “misrepresentation”, “complete fabrication”, “sleight of hand” etc. etc. that he had hurled at me in the original version of his talk. For instance, he now seems to have appreciated his unwisdom in having accused me of having “misrepresented” the work of scientists I had not even cited in the first place.

Taking out his direct libels has reduced the length of his talk by 10 minutes. To my own lawyers, Abraham’s retreat will be of interest, because it is in effect an admission that his talk is libelous, and that he and his university know it is libelous. Though his new version corrects some of the stupider and more egregious errors in the original, many crass errors remain, including errors of simple arithmetic that are surely disfiguring in a “scientist” presuming to correct mine.

At several points in the new version, Abraham rashly persists in misrepresenting me to third-party scientists, getting hostile quotations from them in response to what I had not said, and using them against me. He thus persists even though – having received my long letter detailing his defalcations a month ago, long before he recorded the new version of his talk – he can no longer legitimately maintain that any of his numerous remaining libels is a mere inadvertence.

Plenty of libels indeed remain in the new version of Abraham’s talk: he has even been imprudent enough to add quite a new and serious early in his talk, having failed yet again to check his facts with me. In the new version of Abraham’s talk, every remaining libel will be regarded by the courts as malice, because he was told exactly what libels he had perpetrated, and was given a fair chance to retract and apologize, but he has wilfully chosen to persist in and repeat many of the libels. And when the courts find that his talk was and remains malicious, then he will have thrown away the one defense that might otherwise have worked for him – that in US law a public figure who sues for libel must be able to prove malice. I can prove it, in spades.

Several of you have posted up comments asking to see the full (and entertaining) correspondence between me, the professor, his university, and its lawyers. The ever-splendid Joanne Nova is kindly hosting the correspondence, so that we can spread the word as widely as possible across the Web to counter the malevolence of the many climate-extremist websites that are now ruing their earlier and too hasty endorsement of Abraham’s libels. Not one of them contacted me to check anything before describing me as “the fallen idol of climate skepticism”, “a sad joke”, etc., etc.

May I ask your kind readers once more for their help? Would as many of you as possible do what some of you have already been good enough to do? Please contact Father Dennis J. Dease, President of St. Thomas University, djdease@stthomas.edu, and invite him – even at this eleventh hour – to take down Abraham’s talk altogether from the University’s servers, and to instigate a disciplinary inquiry into the Professor’s unprofessional conduct, particularly in the matter of his lies to third parties about what I had said in my talk at Bethel University eight months ago? That would be a real help.

It is sometimes a cold and lonely road we follow in pursuit of the truth, and the support of Anthony and his readers has been a great comfort to me. Thank you all again.

See also: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/12/a-detailed-rebuttal-to-abraham-from-monckton/


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climategate; globalwarming; monckton; wattsup

1 posted on 07/14/2010 10:03:03 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Good for Lord Monckton. He is a great spokesman of reason against the AGW gravy train.


2 posted on 07/14/2010 10:15:14 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Signalman

I had to lookup ‘defalcation’.

“the sum of money that is misappropriated”


3 posted on 07/14/2010 11:25:36 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Signalman; Desdemona; grey_whiskers; proud_yank; Horusra; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 07/14/2010 12:49:07 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: jonno

Yeah. New word for me too! Seems to mean “embezzlement.” But, sometimes the Brits have somewhat different meanings for words.
Anyway, too bad this thread didn’t get more notice. Off to JoNova for me! Later.


5 posted on 07/14/2010 4:00:04 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Signalman

Heh, love this smackdown!


6 posted on 07/14/2010 6:02:35 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: steelyourfaith
DRAT! I was going to ping *you*.

Read both links, Ass. Prof. Abraham looks like he is trouncing Lord Monckton at first, until you read the rebuttal.

In the comments section I noticed that University of St. Thomas accepts 80% of their applicants and still manages to charge $26,000 / year.

Yikes.

Cheers!

7 posted on 07/14/2010 8:49:31 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; ...
Thanks Signalman.
 
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8 posted on 07/17/2010 7:07:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv; Signalman

Too bad this one didn’t get more attention. Lord Monckton is a tireless fighter against the algore warming nuts. I’m sure the title of the article didn’t help much either. For example, my first impression was that it would likely be a crevo slugfest. Never fun to watch.


9 posted on 07/17/2010 9:20:55 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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