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Dangerous, Inexperience Sailing, the Real Sunderland Reality
Opposing Views ^ | 6/14/10 | laconic

Posted on 06/14/2010 7:42:41 PM PDT by GatorGirl

Dangerous, Inexperienced Sailing: The Real Sunderland Reality

Opinion by laconic (4 Hours Ago) in Society Abby Sunderland was rushed out the gate in an ill prepared attempt to get an obscure record. She had to stop at Cabo for major upgrades on her boat. There were 2 auto pilots on the boat and the electrical demand exceeded the ability of the wind generators and solar panels to supply power. This was in California and Mexico, not the overcast Atlantic or Souther Ocean where you might not see the sun for days. Bad omen and signs of total incompetence before even leaving the Americas.

Abby continued to have problems with the 2 auto pilots for most of her trip. She stated in her blog that she had no wind-vane steering because her boat went too fast. This of-course is nonsense. I have sailed boats with twice the hull speed of her boat that used the system. Zak Sunderland, her brother in his circumnavigation and Jessica Watson in her record breaking circumnavigation had wind-vanes installed. I can only guess she was parroting the misinformation her father gave her. Monitor wind-vanes do not require electricity to run and are the preferred safety navigation system for most epic adventurers.

When both navigation systems inevitably failed Abby stopped in Cape town to replace them. Her Father flew down to help. As well as replacing the navigation system he helped with repairs. Rather than wait for a cradle at the boat yard to hoist the boat out to repair a scratch in the hull, they did the most boneheaded and dangerous repair you can do on a sailboat. They tied a rope to the top of the mast and using leverage pulled the boat over to expose the hull (photos on Abby's blog Thursday May 13). I have seen masts snap when this has been tried and the fact that her mast later broke might not be coincidental.That action creates enormous stress on the mast and deck fittings. It is something you do on hobby-cats and small sailboats, not on a 40 foot boat if there are any alternatives. Again, incompetence, rushing and ignorance setting her up for failure.

The builder of her boat, Marty Still, warned them not to continue as it was the wrong time of year for the southern Ocean in that type of boat with such an inexperienced sailor. Her father let her go anyway.

The claims of Abby being an experienced sailor are put to rest in her own words and actions. In her blog on June 2 I was horrified to read on that she went on deck in a storm at night without her foul weather safety gear. She stated she didn't have time to put it on. Sailing 101 tells you otherwise. It took her days to get dry and warm again.

The photo of her boat de-masted are a pictorial record of her inexperience. You can see the trailing mast and sails in the water. A mast can and does puncture the hull of the boat if it is allowed to dangle from the boat after going overboard and bash against the hull. An experienced sailor would cut it free to eliminate the danger of sinking the boat. She either (a) didn't know to do that (b) was not equipped with the necessary tools (c) didn't have the strength. Any answer is reason to believe she shouldn't have been out there in those conditions. I think she was so controlled from shore by her team that when the mast went down and she lost contact and was left to her own devices her inexperience showed.

Two Sat phones and two auto pilots do not make you safe if you do not have the fundamental survival skills. Her father put her life in jeopardy when he allowed her to continue from Cape Town into the Southern Ocean at the most dangerous time of year. Her boat was knocked down twice, Jessica Watson had her boat knocked down 7 times in her record breaking circumnavigation. The difference is Jessica boat was more suited to the task, was better prepared and she is a vastly more experienced sailor than Abby and was through the southern Ocean before Abby got to Cape Town.

Abby did a great job and was lucky to round the two capes in relatively mild conditions(Jessica had 5 knockdowns before she entered the Indian Ocean). I would have applauded her efforts if common sense prevailed and she stayed in cape-town and continued when the weather was better.

Her father equates this with letting a 16 year old drive a car. But you don't let a 16 year old drive a car on ice, at night with no headlights and bald tires. Thats the equivalent conditions he put Abby in.

The difference between the balloon boy's attention seeking Dad and Abby's Father is that Balloon Boys dad did not actually risk the life of his kid in an attempt at fame and fortune.


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One man's opinion. But an opinion shared by many in the sailing community.

In the midst of all the hyperventilating about Freedom! Adventure! The Human Spirit! Greed! Parental Neglect! Timing! Etc! Etc! Etc! There have been very few discussions about equipment and preparation.

Of course you are free to post anything you want, including disparaging ad hominem remarks but it would be instructive to stick to the facts as we know them. Enjoy the debate!

1 posted on 06/14/2010 7:42:41 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: GatorGirl

Even “Whore-Aldo” was coming down hard on the parents yesterday.


2 posted on 06/14/2010 7:44:54 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: GatorGirl
From some news accounts they are saying that there reality tv paid the dad some bucks. Is this true?
3 posted on 06/14/2010 7:52:16 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Beaten Valve
Ah, yes, but many applauded her foolishness in the name of adventure and freedom.

She was a child set upon a no-win adventure, by her father, in order that her father might enjoy financial rewards. That's reprehensible.

4 posted on 06/14/2010 7:54:17 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: DJ MacWoW; jimbo123; Pit1

Don’t miss this analysis, it’s just chilling.....


5 posted on 06/14/2010 7:54:20 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: GatorGirl

Envy distorts all arguments heard from that quarter.


6 posted on 06/14/2010 7:54:43 PM PDT by bvw
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To: GatorGirl

Sailed 3/4 of the way around the world. Sounds like quite a bit of experience.
She would not have gone that far with NO experience.
And I don’t give a fig about the “Sailing Community”, a bunch of old men who think only rich old men should be sailing. As for whorealdo is an a$$ Hat, always has been.


7 posted on 06/14/2010 7:55:31 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: GatorGirl

I won’t minimize the danger in her taking on this challenge, but she could just as well be killed driving on the 405.


8 posted on 06/14/2010 7:55:35 PM PDT by joelt
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To: guitarplayer1953
Yep, the dad signed a contract for a reality show called, Adventures in Sunderland.
9 posted on 06/14/2010 7:56:03 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: joelt

Well I for one am glad she was not sent to Aruba to party


10 posted on 06/14/2010 7:57:43 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: GatorGirl

Excellent report, GatorGirl. Foolish is as foolish does. This family is very lucky that they are not burying their daughter this week. They would have spent their lives living in guilt and remorse.
I am tired of hearing(on this site too) about what a great sailor she was and how she handled everything so well.
Age 16 does not equip one with enough knowledge about life’s problems, joys, adversities or just about anything else.
And I don’t care how much her family sailed...the sea can be a cruel and uncompromsing foe and should not be challenged in the best of circumstances. She very easily could have lost her challenge with this formidable and daunting force.
Does anyone know who will be responsible for paying for her rescue? I heard that the Australians who found her asked only that Americans would be willing to do the same for them.
But there must have been other costs that were incurred. Does the family intend to “take care” of those?


11 posted on 06/14/2010 7:59:02 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Ryan/Bachmann 2012)
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To: guitarplayer1953; All
Broke Dad Put Abby Up for Sail ........................................................... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2534275/posts?page=1
12 posted on 06/14/2010 8:00:01 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: GatorGirl

From what I have heard, there are deliberately NO official “YOUNGEST” world records for solo-circumnavigations, otherwise parents would be shoving off 10 year olds.


13 posted on 06/14/2010 8:01:34 PM PDT by two23 (Everything About Them Is a Lie)
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To: bvw

I don’t know about that. I like listening to the voices of experience from true blue water sailors. Many have accomplished a circumnavigation.

The father did not take advice from the boat’s builder and they only acquired it three months before her departure and never put it under a proper sea trial.


14 posted on 06/14/2010 8:02:27 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: joelt

Ping to send to my boss who is a Lieutenant Commander (USN Ret.)!


15 posted on 06/14/2010 8:02:53 PM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: two23

It’s true. They stopped recognizing “youngest” after Jesse Martin did it at 17 for just those concerns.

Although of course it doesn’t stop the book, movie and reality TV deals!


16 posted on 06/14/2010 8:06:32 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: GatorGirl
Woulda shoulda coulda

Even the best of equipment can't save you sometimes.

Envy is a poison.

17 posted on 06/14/2010 8:10:43 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Colvin
"Sailed 3/4 of the way around the world. Sounds like quite a bit of experience."

Pure nonsense.

18 posted on 06/14/2010 8:10:43 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Beaten Valve
Even “Whore-Aldo” was coming down hard on the parents yesterday.

I think Jerry Rivers is an asshole ... but he did circumnavigate the world (in segments) on his well founded sailboat. Several years ago I picked up a mooring next to his boat in Marion, MA harbor ... didn't talk to the man but I was impressed with his boat ... in a harbor with a lot of very impressive expensive sailboats. Jerry Rivers, when it comes to sailing, speaks with a degree of authority.

19 posted on 06/14/2010 8:13:55 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: GatorGirl

This isn’t an “opposing view.” This is what most people think.

As for me, I believe teens can do amazing things, if we allow them and encourage them. Low expectations — that’s for libs.


20 posted on 06/14/2010 8:14:50 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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