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A black future
ScienceNews ^ | 12/19/09 | Tom Siegfried

Posted on 12/05/2009 4:26:01 PM PST by KevinDavis

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To: sonofstrangelove; Salamander; Markos33; Slings and Arrows
"Who knows? It may open a doorway to a parallel universe."



Not to worry, Kirk will save us ..... (right after the pregnant pause, with angst.)

41 posted on 12/06/2009 10:38:34 PM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: shibumi

I think parallel worlds(Earths) are a reality. The problem is getting there and getting back home.


42 posted on 12/06/2009 10:39:41 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Similar observations are unequivocale, looks good.


43 posted on 12/06/2009 10:42:17 PM PST by allmost
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To: sonofstrangelove

All that can be, is.


44 posted on 12/06/2009 10:42:24 PM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: sonofstrangelove
With every part, down to the smallest having all the characteristics of the whole.....


45 posted on 12/06/2009 10:47:14 PM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: allmost
One method is to use gravitational lensing. When you pass a star or galaxy in front of a black hole ,it distorts the image of a galaxy or star in the background.
46 posted on 12/06/2009 10:48:09 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Although there is observational evidence for them

I believe I mentioned that.
47 posted on 12/06/2009 10:48:10 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Didn’t see that.


48 posted on 12/06/2009 10:49:06 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Cool GIF. No proof there though... :)


49 posted on 12/06/2009 10:51:08 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

There is enough by the HST to prove once and for all they exist,including one at the center of our galaxy.


50 posted on 12/06/2009 10:52:33 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

They have been known to exist for centuries. Pre-Einstein.


51 posted on 12/06/2009 10:54:05 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

You Are correct.The idea of a body so massive that even light could not escape was put forward by geologist John Michell in a letter written to Henry Cavendish in 1783.In 1796, mathematician Pierre-Simon Laplace promoted the same idea in the first and second editions of his book Exposition du système du Monde (it was removed from later editions).


52 posted on 12/06/2009 10:55:55 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: allmost

How does the Hubble Space Telescope search for black holes?

A black hole cannot be viewed directly because light cannot escape it. Effects on the matter that surrounds it infer its presence. Matter swirling around a black hole heats up and emits radiation that can be detected. Around a stellar black hole this matter is composed of gas and dust. Around a supermassive black hole in the center of a galaxy the swirling disk is made of not only gas but also stars. An instrument aboard the Hubble Space Telescope, called the Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph (STIS), was installed in February 1997. STIS is the space telescope’s main “black hole hunter.” A spectrograph uses prisms or diffraction gratings to split the incoming light into its rainbow pattern. The position and strength of the line in a spectrum gives scientists valuable information. STIS spans ultraviolet, visible, and near-infrared wavelengths. This instrument can take a spectrum of many places at once across the center of a galaxy. Each spectrum tells scientists how fast the stars and gas are swirling at that location. With that information, the central mass that the stars are orbiting can be calculated. The faster the stars go, the more massive the central object must be.

STIS found the signature of a supermassive black hole in the center of the galaxy M84. The spectra showed a rotation velocity of 400 km/s, equivalent to 1.4 million km every hour! The Earth orbits our Sun at 30 km/s. If Earth moved as fast as 400 km/s our year would be only 27 days long!


53 posted on 12/06/2009 10:56:55 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: UCANSEE2

IIRC, about one Earth-mass is required for an indefinitely-sustained black hole.


54 posted on 12/06/2009 11:02:11 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Jew, conservative, and proud supporter of Israel.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Wrong responsne. Space-time it self is fundamentally misunderstood. Tell me about black holes when you’ve got those figured out ;)


55 posted on 12/06/2009 11:02:21 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

I pretty much shown my case. Its up to the posters to decide.


56 posted on 12/06/2009 11:03:55 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Meant no disrespect. We just don’t know.


57 posted on 12/06/2009 11:07:55 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

I disagree.


58 posted on 12/06/2009 11:08:25 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove
I disagree.
Well then... let the games begin;)
59 posted on 12/06/2009 11:10:39 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

The Large Hadron Collider is going to prove it black holes exist by creating one(even though I do not like toying with the forces of nature).Somebody is going to win a Nobel Prize with this discovery.


60 posted on 12/06/2009 11:10:53 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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