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I asked if he could drive it home to my house and I would bring him back. He said fine. I signed papers and he said after 6pm(about 40 more minutes from the time we were finished) he and his wife would bring it by my place and drop it off and I would not need to bring him back. Sounded great. I waited and waited. Never arrived. He called and said the headlights didn't work and would fix them tomorrow and then drop it off(they worked fine when I was there). What could I do?? So, I agreed. He assured me he'd take care of it and didn't want to give me the car with lights broken. After our call, I decided to google his name. Freakin great! He and his wife are under investigation for child porn, drugs and everything else. All over the freakin news sites here locally! He's called the scum of the earth!! Now I am wondering just whether I will even get the car,, I realized I left without a bill of sale because he said he would put all of that into the car when he brought it to the house. But,, for all I know everything he said could be true,, but for all I know he is switching the tires that were on the car(they were brand new!), will take my money and be done and what do I have??? He's got the paper work. There were several other people in his place of business that witnessed what was going on,,??? Any advice for a morn. I cannot believe I did this!!! This guy was such a good talker. I have been looking at cars for over 2 weeks ( Look, I know the price range is crap,, we are talking an around the town car and one for my 16 year old to learn on!) What can I do legally if this guy switches tires, or takes my cash and I never get the car. He could say he doesn't even know me!! What in the world have I done?? !! (Sorry, I am in the emotion of it all and it makes me mad!!)
1 posted on 10/19/2009 6:36:09 PM PDT by freemike
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Why haven’t you cancelled the check? —although if I were him, I would have cashed it as soon as possible.


2 posted on 10/19/2009 6:37:57 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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good luck, I’d bet you’re screwed but you should show up there tomorrow morning.


3 posted on 10/19/2009 6:38:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Personally I’d check with police to make sure they aren’t going to seize the car for evidence or something.


4 posted on 10/19/2009 6:38:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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Please tell me you are under 21 years old, please.


5 posted on 10/19/2009 6:39:02 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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go get the car.


7 posted on 10/19/2009 6:39:37 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Be thankful it is only money scammed from you. It could have been a lot worse. Make a police report immediately.

Be glad you didn’t give him a check or he’d be into your checking account by now.

Good luck. Life’s lesson learned.


8 posted on 10/19/2009 6:39:41 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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On a more serious note, although that is a lot of money to lose (if you do lose it and it’s not looking too good based on this guy’s record), consider that you could have written a check for twice that had it been a different car. Lesson learned. Pricey but not the worst. Many people lose far, far more. Just ask the folks who invested with Madak (or whatever his name is since I forgot already).


10 posted on 10/19/2009 6:40:47 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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If you need to go on an anonymous internet forum, to get help for this, then I’m afraid it’s probably too late.


11 posted on 10/19/2009 6:41:38 PM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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Call the police & make a report tonight . If he is involved with all these illegal things then the police know all about him. Cancel the check right away. I doubt any of the people at his business or where you were will stand by you... Good luck!


12 posted on 10/19/2009 6:43:05 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn.....................^........................)
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Cancel the check. Sue him for the title if you dare. How do you prove you paid him cash?


14 posted on 10/19/2009 6:43:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Get a friend and go get the car!


15 posted on 10/19/2009 6:43:26 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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They found your car......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2366224/posts


16 posted on 10/19/2009 6:44:29 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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That’s the lesson I learned when I bought my second house (it wasn’t that big of an issue as it turned out) - take immediate possession of a purchase.


17 posted on 10/19/2009 6:44:50 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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Cars are titled. Taking the car without a title will do you no good.

If you paid by check, stop the check immediately. In some cases, you can actually ‘reverse’ a check up to 10 days after it cleared.

If that fails, call your local district attorney. If they are after him for one type of crime, they would probably be interested in another. Even better, tell him you will do so if he does not return $. But do not put that threat into writing!

I always buy everything on my AMEX card. That way, up until 6 months after a transaction, I can reverse the charge. NEVER use a PayPal draft from your bank account! Use PP to put it onto a credit card.

19 posted on 10/19/2009 6:45:41 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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If you can wire me just 2 grand I can help you.


20 posted on 10/19/2009 6:46:09 PM PDT by Dysart
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Where are you located?

I hope your situation works out, if it doesn't and you're anywhere near Las Vegas, I have a clean 97 T-Bird Coupe, just turned 100K....and yes it has brand new tires too!!

21 posted on 10/19/2009 6:46:23 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Obama's Blackberry, who's on the other end? Can we Zot him?)
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I was in Key West, FL a few years ago, in a t-shirt shop. Bought about $75.00 worth of stuff. The clerks were very talkative friendly, moving around, etc. I signed the credit car receipt and left. I discovered a few minutes later the receipt was for almost 2000. I went to the store and of course the guys were gone and the current clerk had no idea (of course) what I was telling him. Eventually after making many phone calls to the city, I got a guy that was very non-chalant and acted as if it happen all the time—IT DID I later found. He made them issue a refund, and I never heard from them again.


24 posted on 10/19/2009 6:50:05 PM PDT by devane617
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You said he worked at a lot. That's far different than had it been a private party. Considering his existing legal problems, would he want you filing a complaint against him? Would he want you picketing his lot and sharing your story with other potential customers?

You should NEVER have left there w/o a bill of sale. But you already know that. There is hope, though. He may not want to bring more trouble his way. Good luck.

26 posted on 10/19/2009 6:50:18 PM PDT by South40 (I did not know President Ronald Reagan, but he knew me.)
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You know, Jesus didn’t just want us all to go to church and sit in the pews, this may be your chance to help the kid, the wife, or all of them, I am thinking because they do have custody of the child, the investigation is not as a conviction, and you said “There were several other people in his place of business” says he still does work. Have a little faith, and go work it out tomorrow. God never gives us more than we can handle, may God Bless you and give you a square deal


27 posted on 10/19/2009 6:50:28 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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DOn’t be too hard on yourself. It’s tough when it happens, but trust me, you are not alone. I hope you find the car you are looking for and the moey you need. God willing


29 posted on 10/19/2009 6:51:38 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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