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Waiting for the Rapture while America goes down the tubes! Vanity

Posted on 04/07/2009 4:47:57 PM PDT by cradle of freedom

Why is it that the forces of evil are well funded, well organized and determined to get what they want. While the believers in God are letting the enemies of God decide the future of our country?

It seems that too many people are living in the future, waiting for the Rapture. We have to look to the future but live in the present. I think too many Christians are too apathetic while the other side is energied.

Remember we have to hold down the fort until the calvary arrives. We can't just keep looking to the horizon while the fort is being surrounded and burned to the ground. What did Jesus say: "Occupy until I come." This doesn't mean living in the future. It means dealing with life as we find it day by day. It is fine to study the prophecies but we cannot use this as a form of escapism which I fear that many people do.

The churches have a great network for organization. What if someone printed up a Christian monthly newsletter to be distributed at Church? We cannot take for granted that people fully understand what is going on. I think human beings naturally are more interested in their immediate welfare rather than the big issues. They tend not to know what is going on until it is too late.

Have you ever heard of Tim Gill? He is a Colorado gay millionaire who has been single-mindedly defeating pro-family candidates in a number of states. Gill uses a very stealthy and deceptive method. He gives money to opponents of pro-family candidates. The voters are inundated with repeated mailings critical of the pro-family candidate. The mailings never mention anything about gay issues. Instead they just make general criticism of the pro-family candidate. Another thing that the voters do not know is that the opposition candidate has made an agreement with Gill to support gay causes in exchange for campaign money. How evil is that!

Meanwhile, many of the churches throughout our country fail to see how they can put their churches to work to counter this threat. Churches have natural social networks, a strong belief system and a method of collecting money for our causes. Instead it is the anti-God left that has all the organization and uses it to the ultimate degree. Wake up! What kind of country will our children inherit!


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: bho44; christians; endtimes; gayagenda; prophecy; rapture
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To: The Breaded Fish; Old Sarge

I pray it changes before then.

An eternity of bitterness and isolation from God is not a fun prospect.


121 posted on 04/09/2009 7:44:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Marysecretary

I heard him speak long ago in San Diego.

I think he almost does better at Christianity—may, in fact—than his father.


122 posted on 04/09/2009 7:45:45 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: LibertyRocks

PRAISE GOD FOR FEELING BETTER.


123 posted on 04/09/2009 7:47:39 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: joeclarke

Too true.

Though it’s likely 663 or some such.


124 posted on 04/09/2009 7:48:16 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1

Prayers for your health.


125 posted on 04/09/2009 7:48:47 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

“If you’ve seen the actual thing, they are not all looking in one direction... most are looking at one another; some to the left, the others to the right. The very fact that Muhammad is there, as a “law-giver” disproves your “Judeo-Christian-based government” mythology.” ... We appreciate you exposing so much of your fundamentals, n00b. Your posts have been most instructive, and you will not hide among us any longer.


126 posted on 04/09/2009 8:01:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
I don’t think there’s a god/ God either. If there’s anything that can reverse my stance, it can’t be anything less than divine intervention. I just cannot bring myself to believe in a supernatural being, an evidence of whom, I’ve never experienced, ever. And if you or anyone really believed there is a god or God, you wouldn’t be wasting time on your job or family; you’d be treading the planet, helping your god’s “children”, and teaching everyone about this god of yours. Because nothing can be more important, than knowing with certainty that your work is truly for your god. Anything less, is hypocrisy. IMHO.

And it is your 'GOD' given 'right' to believe what you choose to believe. IF the Heavenly Father (Creator of all souls/spirits) wants your attention He knows exactly how to get it. But your believe or disbelief does not hamper that 'plan' established before the foundation of this flesh age. So might say buckle your seat belt times are sure getting interesting.

127 posted on 04/09/2009 8:10:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Well said...

Good to see someone who knows and understands the 3 earth ages.

EVERY knee shall bow at Christ’s return, whether they “believe” or not.

Jesus won’t have a whole lot of patience for political correctness at his Second Coming.


128 posted on 04/09/2009 8:59:09 AM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: MHGinTN
We appreciate you exposing so much of your fundamentals, n00b. Your posts have been most instructive, and you will not hide among us any longer.

Yawn.

129 posted on 04/09/2009 9:07:28 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Times have been interesting, since time-immemmorial.


130 posted on 04/09/2009 9:08:33 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
...immemorial...
131 posted on 04/09/2009 9:09:25 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I’m talking about Peter Marshall’s son now, not his dad. He’s an interesting person and a good author.


132 posted on 04/09/2009 1:55:39 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: cradle of freedom

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Yeats, 1919


133 posted on 04/09/2009 2:01:16 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: cradle of freedom

The false teaching of the pre tribulation rapture has harmed the body of Christ more than we will ever know.


134 posted on 04/09/2009 5:33:38 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Yes it has..

It’s going to lead a lot of Christians to the False christ at the Tribulation..

But of course, the peddlers of this doctrine dont care, as long as they sell lots of books and can keep crankin out those Left Behind movies!!

Thankfully, Judgment begins at the Pulpit..

1Peter 4:17 “For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? “


135 posted on 04/10/2009 2:15:05 PM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: HailReagan78

Many will loses their lives by not being prepare for what is to come because they think when it hit the fan Jesus will zip them out of here first.


136 posted on 04/11/2009 3:15:31 AM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: cradle of freedom; All
An alternative point of view:

Preterism

137 posted on 04/11/2009 1:27:43 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Ughh, preterism is so far out-of-line with Scripture, I dont even know where to start.


138 posted on 04/11/2009 3:55:44 PM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: HailReagan78
Ughh, preterism is so far out-of-line with Scripture, I dont even know where to start.

On the contrary, James Russell's work

The Parousia


is as respectful and prayerful about the text of the Bible as any book I've seen.

R.C. Sproul penned the forward to the modern publication of the book, and Baker--a very solid religious publisher--still has the work for sale.

Preterism, though not as familiar to evangelicals, is a valid, worthwhile and respectable school of thought regarding eschatology.

139 posted on 04/11/2009 5:25:21 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Thanks for presenting this alternative view of the Scripture. I had never heard of preterism before.

Do you know if the current rapture interpretation came from the Millerites of the mid eighteen hundreds?


140 posted on 04/14/2009 6:51:53 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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