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Cornish language Extinct, Says UN (Maybe Not, UN)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cornwall/7900972.stm ^

Posted on 02/26/2009 5:08:38 PM PST by nickcarraway

The Cornish language has been branded "extinct" by linguistic experts, sparking protests from speakers.

Thirty linguists worked on Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger, compiled by United Nations group Unesco. They also said Manx Gaelic was extinct.

Cornish is believed to have died out as a first language in 1777.

But the Cornish Language Partnership says the number of speakers has risen in the past 20 years and there should be a section for revitalised languages.

The Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger, published by Unesco, the cultural section of the United Nations, features about 2,500 dialects.

There are thought to be about 300 fluent speakers of Cornish.

But Jenefer Lowe, development manager of the Cornish Language Partnership, said there were thousands who had a "smattering" of the language.

"Saying Cornish is extinct implies there are no speakers and the language is dead, which it isn't," she said.

"Unesco's study doesn't take into account languages which have growing numbers of speakers and in the past 20 years the revival of Cornish has really gathered momentum."

SNIP

Mrs Lowe said: "There's no category for a language that is revitalised and revived.

"What they need to do is add a category.

"It should be recognised that languages do revive and it's a fluid state."

Christopher Moseley, an Australian linguist and editor-in-chief of the atlas, told BBC News he would consider a new classification.

He said: "I have always been optimistic about Cornish and Manx.

"There is a groundswell of interest in them, although the number of speakers is small.

"Perhaps in the next edition we shall have a 'being revived' category.

"[Cornish] is among a group of languages that turned out not to be extinct but merely sleeping."

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KEYWORDS: cornwall; godsgravesglyphs; language; manxgaelic

1 posted on 02/26/2009 5:08:38 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Does anybody else wonder why we still support the UN?

It tries to undermine the Constitution of the USA and
would love to cripple our Constitutional Republic.

In over 60 years the only politicians who tried to get
the USA out of the UN were Goldwater and President
Ronald Reagan who did kick UNESCO out.


2 posted on 02/26/2009 5:11:45 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunhem?), change America will die for.)
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To: nickcarraway

When does this happen to French and German?


3 posted on 02/26/2009 5:12:55 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Who is now in charge of the "Office of the President-Elect"?)
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To: nickcarraway

Not only that, I have heard that there are two competing Cornish language revival groups with different ideas about pronunciation and spelling.


4 posted on 02/26/2009 5:21:50 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: nickcarraway
Cornish isn't dead, it's merely pining for the fjords.

I've heard about the attempt to revive Cornish before, but I think there is some question about how authentic the revived version is. Would an actual Cornish-speaker (from when the language was a living language) understand what these modern-day aficionados were saying?

I believe Manx died out much more recently, within the last 50 or 60 years.

5 posted on 02/26/2009 5:28:15 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: nickcarraway

Someday everyone will speak English, then we won’t have to waste our time learning all those foreign languages. I think that’s what G-d wants.


6 posted on 02/26/2009 6:00:50 PM PST by FFranco (To be stupid, and selfish, and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness.)
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To: nickcarraway
Cornish language Extinct, Says UN

UN extinct says M Kehoe.

Ok, I can wish...

5.56mm

7 posted on 02/26/2009 6:03:12 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: nickcarraway

Hebrew pretty much came back from the dead and is now a thriving language.

Welsh has rebounded pretty well, too.

OTOH, it’s been tried with Irish and a lot of other languages where it just wouldn’t take. Most attempts to revive a dead or dying language don’t work.


8 posted on 02/26/2009 7:52:45 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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Thanks nickcarraway. I wonder if they call Cornish hens just "hens" in Cornwall.

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9 posted on 02/26/2009 8:03:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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10 posted on 02/26/2009 8:04:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Well, in England, they call bridal showers, “hen parties.”


11 posted on 02/26/2009 8:06:53 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: nickcarraway

Where does Klingon rate?


12 posted on 02/27/2009 4:12:18 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: nickcarraway

No wonder my game hens don’t come when I call them.


13 posted on 02/27/2009 7:00:10 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: nickcarraway
I wish Arabic was going extinct!
14 posted on 02/27/2009 10:28:10 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Obama's Last Day!)
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To: SunkenCiv

What do they call hens in Romansh?


15 posted on 02/27/2009 7:37:33 PM PST by Pelham (Just Doing Jobs Americans Won't Do.- GW Bush)
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To: nickcarraway

Where can I learn Cornish, seeing as how my family is from there three generations ago?


16 posted on 02/27/2009 7:46:07 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Sherman Logan; All

“Welsh has rebounded pretty well, too.”

This does not surprise me. The Welsh are more stubborn, hardworking, and determined than the Irish. My grandfather was Welsh and really embodied these characteristics. He was also 1/4th Manx, but I know nothing about their traits.


17 posted on 02/27/2009 10:43:11 PM PST by gleeaikin
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