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Let the Conspiracy Begin:Obama heading to Hawaii to see "Sick" Grandma
Hannity & Colmes ^ | freeplancer

Posted on 10/20/2008 6:23:20 PM PDT by freeplancer

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To: nufsed
Now I know most of your list will proclaim this to be a right-wing wacko theory, but it would be interesting to see what they say about the timing of the visit.

Secondly, someone might comment on why an innocent person would act this way.


Because of the Berg suit, just producing his birth certificate is not enough because Berg is also trying to say he is not a naturalized citizen because of what happened after that (Indonesia, etc). Berg is coming at it from about 4 different angles, hoping one will stick. So since the suit deals with many issues that could take years to sort out in the courts, he remains silent.

I would as well, especially if he has satisfied the US Government that he is eligible.
51 posted on 10/20/2008 7:04:12 PM PDT by microgood
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To: nufsed

bttt


52 posted on 10/20/2008 7:04:47 PM PDT by petercooper (I am a bitter clinger!)
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To: microgood

thanx


53 posted on 10/20/2008 7:05:02 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: freeplancer

Not buying your “analysis”. No one knows about the birth certificate issue except some disgruntled FReepers. The MSM have made sure of that. So Obama is hardly worried about it. he has bigger fish to fry and be concerned about it.

I say he is a human visiting his dying Grandma and leave it at that.


54 posted on 10/20/2008 7:05:22 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Besides, he sees what happened to Kerry when he lost and wants some political capital for the next go round? IMO


Next go round? If what we think is true is true, he should be DEPORTED! There is no “next go round.”


55 posted on 10/20/2008 7:05:25 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("Why DON'Y you just let PEOOPLEP make up their own MINES who listen?“ (-Candor7)
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To: Candor7

Dang, you are really tuned in to what could be going on. This is unbelievable.


56 posted on 10/20/2008 7:05:36 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: microgood
I would as well, especially if he has satisfied the US Government that he is eligible.

Does someone have to prove he (or she) is a natural citizen when running for the Presidentcy?

57 posted on 10/20/2008 7:10:52 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand Up Chuck!)
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To: Candor7; Calpernia; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; ...

Couple of interesting comments here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2110777/posts?page=38#38

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2110777/posts?page=46#46


58 posted on 10/20/2008 7:11:15 PM PDT by LucyT
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Wouldn’t you love to be a clerk for one day for the office that holds birth certificates down there??


60 posted on 10/20/2008 7:13:54 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: freeplancer

So John McCain suspends his campaign to return to Washington to work on the worst financial crisis the nation has seen since the Great Depression, and it’s a sign of desperation. Obama suspends his campaign to go to Hawaii to see his sick grandma. What is that a sign of?


62 posted on 10/20/2008 7:14:06 PM PDT by RightFighter (That Sarah Palin. She's so hot right now!)
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To: Chief Engineer

Another thought. Grandma is close to death (per Gibbs) and he does not take his wife or his children? That’s not how it works in my family.

But then, the girls do not get Christmas gifts, do they?


63 posted on 10/20/2008 7:16:02 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand Up Chuck!)
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To: freeplancer

So John McCain suspends his campaign to return to Washington to work on the worst financial crisis the nation has seen since the Great Depression, and it’s a sign of desperation. Obama suspends his campaign to go to Hawaii to see his sick grandma. What is that a sign of?


64 posted on 10/20/2008 7:16:05 PM PDT by RightFighter (That Sarah Palin. She's so hot right now!)
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To: Mr Rogers

Someone is going die, politically...


65 posted on 10/20/2008 7:16:16 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: plain talk

Been over to the Hillary PUMA websites? They are interested about the BC issue.


66 posted on 10/20/2008 7:16:58 PM PDT by Ronon
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I am sure many other families would go en masse but with Obama all bets are off. He didn’t go see her when she had the corneal transplant this summer either and for a perfect photo op if you notice the picture of Grandma Dunham look over her shoulder to the picture behind her. Talk about staging!


67 posted on 10/20/2008 7:21:27 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: LucyT; pissant; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP

I don't see what the fuss is about.

Corsi is booted from Kenya by Obama's bro Odinga.

Martin is headed off at the pass in Hawaii by the transformational messiah himself.

Grandma? The candidate has no affection for this typical white person whose busstop harrassment enabled him to go to the high-class school.

His only mission is to secure the access to his records and the lips of an inconvenient witness.

68 posted on 10/20/2008 7:23:14 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Oops forgot the link for the picture

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/

Look over grandma’s shoulder in the picture.


69 posted on 10/20/2008 7:23:38 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: AmericaUnited

I bet he has Secret Service blocking access to Grandma as we speak.


70 posted on 10/20/2008 7:24:43 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: PhilDragoo

Yep.


71 posted on 10/20/2008 7:25:22 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Candor7
Truth likely is that Obama needs to make arrangements that Grandma's secrets dies with her.That all of his hirtory yet unrevealed is wrapped up and put away or destroyed, that all of grandmas papers, memoirs and family memorabilia are confiscated and put in his custody as a guardian.

I bet Obama is attending a guardianship hearing.

That woman was never stupid, she was the one who suppported them all; her husband, her daughter, and then obama as a young boy. Madelyn caught a bus to work while Stanley Armour Dunham drank scotch and smoked pot with Frank Marshall Davis. There's a very good chance that what obama wants to conceal has already been left in safe-keeping with Madelyn Dunham's lawyer...

72 posted on 10/20/2008 7:44:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: freeplancer
Nobody leaves the campaign trail for a couple of days to visit someone who is "sick". He is heading down there to "straighten" out this birth certificate issue.

That would make sense, but let's check the facts first.

Don't trust, but verify.

73 posted on 10/20/2008 7:44:57 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Candor7
Truth likely is that Obama needs to make arrangements that Grandma's secrets dies with her. That all of his history yet unrevealed is wrapped up and put away or destroyed, that all of grandmas papers, memoirs and family memorabilia are confiscated and put in his custody as a guardian.

I bet Obama is attending a guardianship hearing.

The old "... while I'm here to visit grandma, I might as well get these formalities taken care of ..." gambit eh? Best theory so far. Very astute. You should be writing crime novels!

74 posted on 10/20/2008 7:49:54 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: freeplancer

Will his girlfriend be joining him there?


75 posted on 10/20/2008 7:50:07 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Chief Engineer

Can’t find ‘the picture’


76 posted on 10/20/2008 7:52:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Chief Engineer

That photo is the first I’ve seen of the grandmother in decades. Is that Barack, Michelle, and the kids in the photo behind her?


77 posted on 10/20/2008 7:52:55 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: Fred Nerks

Prayers for the health of Obama's "Tutu."

78 posted on 10/20/2008 7:54:02 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Doesn’t work that way in my family either. My mother died a month ago. All of her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren were here for her “going away” party. Most of them came from a great distance. It was a blessed experience for all of us. I simply cannot imagine that “that one” would not take his children with him to visit her in her last days.


79 posted on 10/20/2008 7:54:09 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: BCrago66

Yeah, the only people who would care if Zero was not eligible for the presidency are those who care about the Constitution. Carely at least half the people do not.

It is true that Zero could clear this up in an instant without going to Hawaii if he has a valid BC.

Since that is still in question I assume he is going to have Grandman knocked off for sympathy.


80 posted on 10/20/2008 7:55:21 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: nufsed

Republicans should be filing more lawsuits in more States to force the issue. If nothing else, *some* judge will either rule for it or against it quickly, which will send the appeal to a higher circuit court. At that point, it would almost have to go to the SCOTUS on an emergency basis.


81 posted on 10/20/2008 7:55:59 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Chief Engineer
is this the one...I had it saved:


82 posted on 10/20/2008 7:56:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: freeplancer

Got to get me a birth certificate.

I picked up $150 million last month. How much?


83 posted on 10/20/2008 7:56:15 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Sarah Palin - High ideals on high heels)
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Is that the racist grandma?
84 posted on 10/20/2008 7:57:22 PM PDT by Godwin1 (Battleground staes sghould be saturated with Wright stat)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

The thing is that we as a nation have never had REASON for any candidate for the Presidency to HAVE to prove his/her citizenship. It was always assumed that it was just the case that someone running for the highest office in the land would just BE a natural-born American citizen.

We now have someone...and not just any someone, but a someone who is running as a “Democrat”, may in fact be a Marxist, and most certainly is a Socialist...who could be two weeks away from gaining the Presidency.

Would you NOT want to make abso-fraggin’-lutely sure that this guy is or isn’t eligible???


85 posted on 10/20/2008 7:57:52 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Krankor
I say he’s going for treatment of a medical condition he doesn’t want anyone to know about. You know, the one he’s been hiding by not releasing his medical records. What better cover than to visit his grandma in the “hospital”. And why just two days? Does he somehow know his grandma will be okay in 48 hours. Or does he need that long for the procedure and recuperation?

Sort of like The Bent One faking the fall off the stairs at Greg Norman's house to create a medical time window to have Willard straightened, so he would be in the clear in case he ever were required to drop trou to have the court verify the distinguishing characteristics Monica and Paula described?

86 posted on 10/20/2008 7:59:37 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: freeplancer

No he is getting killed in the Elderly voters & is trying to get some sympathy from elderly voters, Aww look that nice young man is going to see his sick Grand mama in the biggest campaign of his life, Tell you he is in DEEP, DEEP KIMCHI


88 posted on 10/20/2008 8:00:06 PM PDT by PaRep
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To: freeplancer

We have to agree that the FED’S are on his trail... He has serious baggage scattered all around the world... However this plays out, MAY GOD BLESS THIS GREAT NATION !


89 posted on 10/20/2008 8:00:10 PM PDT by mdunn121
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To: freeplancer

I think he’s going to see his gram.


90 posted on 10/20/2008 8:00:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (Mail acorns to t;he MSM starting October 21. Reporters: ACORN addresses are in phone book.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Yep, it’s the bottom of the 7th inning and 0bambi is running out the clock to the two minute warning!

Yeah, but with the McCain team in power play, Obama won't be able to beat the shot clock!

92 posted on 10/20/2008 8:08:28 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: hoagy62

I certainly would.


No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Not much open to interpretation.

Either Obama was born in this country or not. Either he was born before September 17th 1787, or not.

I doubt he is over 200 years old (just a wild guess), so being a natural born citizen is his only hope.

And because it is the Law of the land and it has been the Law of the Land since 1787, we DESERVE to know.


93 posted on 10/20/2008 8:14:08 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand Up Chuck!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I don’t know why it hasn’t gone nationwide.


94 posted on 10/20/2008 8:21:01 PM PDT by nufsed
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According to the Hawaii Department of Health—vital statistics...

A certified copy of a vital record (birth, death, marriage, or divorce certificate) is issued only to an applicant who has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons are considered to have such an interest:

* the registrant (the person whom the record is concerned with);
* the registrant’s spouse;
* the registrant’s parent(s);
* a descendant of the registrant (e.g., a child or grandchild);
*a person having a common ancestor with the registrant (e.g., a sibling, grandparent, aunt/uncle, or cousin);

Okay any Freepers in Hawaii? Go directly to the Department of Health and request a certified copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate. If they ask you if you are a relative say “Yes...I have a common ancestor with Barack. Both Barack and I are of the Christian faith. The Christian faith believes the first man created by God was Adam and from Adam God created Eve. It is an established fact that the book of Genesis states this. The book of Genesis is an accepted Christian belief shared by both Barack and me and therefore we both share a common ancestor and I hereby demand a certified copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate.


95 posted on 10/20/2008 8:22:48 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: Illinois Rep

And in the year 2036 this will become available to the public....this isn’t something we will never find out...but history would say he was a complete fraud if there is something he is hiding.


96 posted on 10/20/2008 8:25:08 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: freeplancer

Something really serious and important (to Obama, at least) is up - I can’t imagine him taking time off for any other reason at this point. The birth certificate issue, as someone else mentioned, would be better taken care of by someone else rather than having to stop the campaign for two days to do it personally, and even a medical issue could probably be discreetly taken care of somewhere on the continental US.

Judging from the fact that there’s nothing else that I can think of that either can’t be done somewhere in the US, or can’t be done by someone who’s not Obama, I’d say whatever’s up does involve his grandmother. Maybe it’s something political, or maybe his grandmother is just sick with something terminal (ergo the being sent home from the hospital) and he wants to visit her one last time just in case she dies before the election. Either way, we’ll probably find out by the end of the week.


97 posted on 10/20/2008 8:33:23 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Hyzenthlay

if she does die it would fulfill his COLD stereotype he’s starting to earn...how cold would that be? He doesn’t even buy his brother a “Hut sweet Hut” sign....doesn’t bail him out of poverty....for his Grandmother to die this close to the election without a visit by Barack would be politically “incorrect”.


98 posted on 10/20/2008 8:36:00 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: freeplancer

I watch MSNBC to see how they are spinning it because you can see right through what they are doing. Obama does everything for political gain. When they said that Obama was going to be going off the trail for 4 days they kept up the picture of young Obama with his “white” grandparents. They kept this picture up a long time. Why would the Obama campaign give MSNBC this picture?

The Obama campaign with their thousands of pollsters must be doing terrible with voters because of Obama’s association with Jesse Jackson, Farakan, and Rev. Wright. I also believe taking 4 days off he is trying his best to stop the bleeding. Obama has lost momentum from the attacks from the McCain campaign and they will keep coming. He is trying to stop the freefall in the polls.

There also might be a scandal out there (ie the birth certificate). I saw the statement and Obama made sure he emphasized his grandmother took care of him since “he was born in Hawaii.” The interview with API might be coming out.

This is going to be a crazy 2 weeks. Hang onto your hat and pray. If you are getting wobbly then read my tagline.


99 posted on 10/20/2008 8:38:17 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Yaelle

Nice photo op with the family picture behind grandma!


100 posted on 10/20/2008 8:42:11 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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