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Hitch hike to Mars inside an asteroid
New Scientist ^ | 23 October 2006 | David Shiga

Posted on 10/23/2006 11:43:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Building shielding on Earth to launch with the spacecraft would add a lot of extra weight to the vehicle and would increase the cost of the mission as a result. Other ideas, like a lightweight plasma bubble that could be generated in space are being explored, but have disadvantages of their own (see Plasma bubble could protect astronauts on Mars trip)... A small population of asteroids pass by both the Earth and Mars in their orbits. So the idea is that a spacecraft containing Mars-bound astronauts could rendezvous with one of these objects as it goes by the Earth and travel with it until it nears the Red Planet.

In one version of the idea, the astronauts would actually dig a hole in the asteroid, put the spacecraft inside and cover it over with material from the asteroid. Within this protective burrow, the spacecraft would be shielded from cosmic rays during the six- to 10- month journey to Mars.

In a second version, the spacecraft would not contact the space rock. Instead, it would hover nearby, and astronauts or robots would visit it on spacewalks. "You'd have the astronaut actually go to the asteroid and begin to extract material," Della-Giustina told New Scientist. The material collected could then be brought back and put into a hollow shell surrounding the spacecraft. The shell of rocky debris would make a radiation shield, she says. The plan has some potential hurdles, but nothing that seems to rule it out, says Daniel Durda of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, US.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientistspace.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: asteroid; mars; spacetravel

Many asteroids, such as Itokawa, may be made of loosely packed rubble that would be relatively easy to burrow into (Image: JAXA)

Many asteroids, such as Itokawa, may be made of loosely packed rubble that would be relatively easy to burrow into (Image: JAXA)

1 posted on 10/23/2006 11:43:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Uhhh... don't asteroids often collide with other asteroids?


2 posted on 10/23/2006 11:46:42 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: tricky_k_1972; KevinDavis; FairOpinion

related topic, similar idea:

Roadmap To Mars [Buzz Aldrin]
Popular Mechanics | December 2005 | Buzz Aldrin, with David Noland, illus by Jeremy Cook, Buzz portrait by Michael Kelley
Posted on 12/21/2005 11:15:57 AM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1544699/posts


3 posted on 10/23/2006 11:46:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: johnny7

The astronaut training will be conducted at Coney Island.


4 posted on 10/23/2006 11:47:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

As long as they have 'hyper-space' training, I guess it's OK...


5 posted on 10/23/2006 11:50:12 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: johnny7

No...well maybe a long, long time ago or in the movies.


6 posted on 10/23/2006 11:51:01 AM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: SunkenCiv

Actually I thing using asteroids this way will become fairly common.

It seems far fetched on it's face but after a little thought it starts to sound more feasable than building large spacecraft on earth and launching them or building them in orbit.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 11:56:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: johnny7
don't asteroids often collide with other asteroids?

Not unless every few thousands or ten thousand years is "often".

8 posted on 10/23/2006 12:04:11 PM PDT by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: johnny7

In (serious) answer to the question, asteroids collide or bump together all the time, but the time between collisions of any single asteroid is pretty long. So, yes and no. :')


9 posted on 10/23/2006 12:19:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: cripplecreek

Someone (perhaps Asimov, but he probably wasn't the origin of the idea) suggested using comets to explore the outer solar system. The idea was to stick a probe on the comet and hitchhike out. There are too many problems with the idea of course, not least, that hanging on for the ride may be too much, and the damage to the instruments and communications may be fatal.


10 posted on 10/23/2006 12:21:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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11 posted on 10/23/2006 6:25:21 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Death to politically correct thinking! Look where it's gotten us: Now we're actually thinking of going to Mars like timid rats cowering in a hole.

BRING BACK ORION! Launch ships the size of aircraft carriers that have six-foot solid-steel plating -- DIRECTLY FROM THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH, WITH A CREW OF HUNDREDS! SEIZE CISLUNAR SPACE! Deny it to other nations. Screw democrats. Screw enviromentalists.

12 posted on 10/23/2006 10:01:05 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Travel in an asteroid would be excellent, because it would be very well protected, and be easy to expand the habitat. Of course, getting all the orbits to match is like figuring out (in advance) the pattern laid down by a Spirograph. :')


13 posted on 10/23/2006 10:19:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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[singing] "hi ho, hi ho, it's off the Mars we go..." [whistling]


14 posted on 10/24/2006 9:41:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Brings a whole new meaning to hitch your wagon to a rising star. :)

Still think it would be a neat experiment for a spacecraft to fire a harpoon connected to a bungee-like tether into a passing asteroid to accomplish a high delta V rendesvous. It would be a wild ride, but it would be interesting to see if it is possible (hopefully it wouldn't result in a paddle ball effect contact with the asteroid.) It might conserve the propellant normally used to close the delta V during a rendezvous.
15 posted on 10/25/2006 11:22:44 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse

I'm not too sure that would work. :') The trick of course is to A) find an asteroid which just happens to be headed in the right direction and will arrive at the right time; B) to be in a position to fire such a harpoon; and C) to survive what would have to be major and sudden acceleration, not to mention sudden catastrophic deceleration when the craft pancakes into the butt end of the asteroid. ;')


16 posted on 10/25/2006 12:08:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Don't forget to bring your towel.


17 posted on 10/25/2006 12:09:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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