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1 posted on 03/19/2022 9:40:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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There is little point to listening to a lecture from someone who has demonstrated one of their preferred options is to kill you.

Putin’s impassioned arguments would be more persuasive if they weren’t propaganda cover for an invasion.


2 posted on 03/19/2022 9:46:14 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Putin complaining about corruption and vested interests in western governments is the biggest hypocrite who ever lived. Russia as currently constituted is a borderline kleptocracy.

CC


3 posted on 03/19/2022 9:51:18 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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Putin came to power by murdering Russians https://www.wanttoknow.info/documents/false_flag_russia_bombings.pdf and he’s remained in power the same way. Our #1 goal for settling the Ukraine crisis should be a regime change in Russia. If necessary to save lives let’s give Putin a personal amnesty for his many crimes, but as long as he is the leader of Russia the sanctions should remain.


4 posted on 03/19/2022 9:51:42 PM PDT by devere
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Putin lover


5 posted on 03/19/2022 9:52:11 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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We have no business being in Ukraine. But we are up to our necks in it because a corrupt government and its corrupt corporations pay Hunter Biden and other offspring of politicians well.

These statements are just wrong. Freedom for the captive nations that were part of the Soviet Union was always part of NATO's purpose. Integration of all these countries into NATO (including Russia) was a goal in the 90s, and Yanukovych's rejection of a deal with the EU already approved by Ukraine's parliament that would have started the EU accession process was the reason for the revolt that removed him from power. The framework and movement for integrating Ukraine into the EU and NATO started 25 years ago.

The fact that US office holders and present and former officials milk US aid and foreign assistance programs like a fat teat has nothing specifically to do with Ukraine, as if somehow they aren't going around with their hands out everywhere else as well. From a Ukrainian point of view, making the payoffs was a wise move. But they are hardly the only reason or even the principal reason why the US has been involved in Ukraine, Georgia and most of the rest of the post-Soviet states since the 90s.

6 posted on 03/19/2022 9:52:53 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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7 posted on 03/19/2022 9:54:25 PM PDT by kabar
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“History shows that Russians may be dumb as bears but they do love their country. They call World War 2 the Great Patriotic War. Millions of deaths did not bring Stalin down because he saved the country in the eyes of his countrymen.”

Yup. Just as WW2 deaths, hard times and rationing didn’t lead to FDR being overthrown by the people. People tend to get POed and defensive when their nation is attacked, not docile.


9 posted on 03/19/2022 9:55:33 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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Is it a lie that there are 3 million Ukrainian refugees?
Is it a lie that Russia invaded Ukraine?
Is it a lie that Ukrainian cities are being bombed?

We don’t “have to” pay for defending Ukraine. Just like you didn’t “Have to” invade Ukraine. But many of us want to. We would have rather there have been peace, but you removed that option.


12 posted on 03/19/2022 9:58:49 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Russia had no business invading Ukraine.

So, any arguments to justify it are invalid.

15 posted on 03/19/2022 10:01:51 PM PDT by windsorknot
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I am reading a book about an American doctor in Russia, just after the fall of the Soviet Union, finding out that Russian girls were being trafficked out of Russia. True story. As she set up her organization to fight it, guess who refused to help her? The American State Department and Embassy which was being directed by George Soros, who at the time was actively working to get prostitution legalized in Russia through an American effort. Putin has been fighting that demon spawn Soros since 1993.


19 posted on 03/19/2022 10:17:24 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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Putin is not the bad guy in this scenario. Cleaning out the NWO from the Ukraine is a really crappy job. Just like Trump having to clean them out of the US. They are embedded in almost every country in the world.


20 posted on 03/19/2022 10:18:27 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Russia spent $450m per year funding the deaths of hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese and 58,000 GI’s during the Vietnam War:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev#The_Vietnam_War

That’s $3.6b per year in current dollars. We gave South Vietnam our best shot, but couldn’t take the losses any more, dooming tens of millions of South Vietnamese to totalitarian rule. Today, in Ukraine, we get the chance to return Russia the favor *and* help a democracy stay out of Russia’s clutches.

Sure, unlike Russia during the 60’s, we’re not sending the Ukrainians our best stuff, and we’re not spending nearly as much money. But given the decrepit state of the Russian military, even half a loaf may be enough for the tough and resourceful Ukies. And if they play their cards right, and manage to capture an entire Russian army the way the Poles did in 1920, Ukraine may well get several decades of peace before the Russians give this another try.


23 posted on 03/19/2022 10:28:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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I know you’re not a Putinista - you post a ton of stuff from varying viewpoints.

Plus I know your time in Asia, and your balanced POV. It was very interesting to watch you learn from your own postings thru the plandemic.

Thank you for all your work here.


29 posted on 03/19/2022 10:49:15 PM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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He is appealing to a small subset of FR who are already very receptive to him. Them and other conspiracy groups.


65 posted on 03/20/2022 12:21:43 AM PDT by libh8er
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81 posted on 03/20/2022 2:07:42 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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Excellent points. IMO, had Putin stopped at putting Russian “Peacekeepers” in Luhansk and Donetsk, he would have been fine. The people there are ethnic Russians who speak Russian. They welcomed Russian troops. Besides, “peacekeepers” for a secessionist region is exactly what NATO did in Kosovo in the 90s. Ergo, they could hardly argue much had Russia stopped at that. The rest of Ukraine is an entirely different matter. Invading the rest of Ukraine was a step too far.

Now all of the above said, the rest of what Putin said was 100% correct.

Western elites have hollowed out their countries’ manufacturing base (except Germany) in the name of globalism thus bringing economic decay and misery to much of the working and middle class. They have imposed things such as transgenderism and Gaia worship that are supported by only small fractions of the population. Their Gaia worship has driven up the cost of everything and appreciably lowered the standard of of those same working and middle class people. The same is true of their runaway money printing and government spending. Inflation always hits the working and middle class the hardest.

They have also completely thrown out due process, the rule of law and private property rights in order to discriminate against Russians - Russians who were not charged with let alone convicted of any crime other than being Russians. Hundreds of years of legal principles cast aside in order to seize and freeze assets by fiat just so they could get at people who happened to be born in Russia for that fact alone.

Then there is the matter of the cruel and meanspirited private cancelling of Russians and Russian culture. Telling athletes and artists that they must denounce their country publicly or lose their jobs. Cancelling Tchaikovsky and Dostoyevsky. Barring Russians from the paralympics.....because lashing out at some kid in a wheelchair is gonna change Russian government policy and because that kid had so much control over Russian government policy.

This goes beyond Putin. Putin could be out of office tomorrow yet if you were Russian, would you ever trust the West again? How could you? For that matter if you were a wealthy Saudi or Chinaman or Indian, could you be sure the West would not do the same to you one day should they take a dislike to your government’s policies? Why would you trust the West with your money ever again now that they have cast aside all their principles to lash out at people for their nationality alone?

If I were in their shoes, I sure wouldn’t. I’d move my money out of the West just as fast as I could.


83 posted on 03/20/2022 2:18:25 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Seems to me Putin made a very accurate description of Western leaders because he is cut from the same cloth.

A pox on all of the elites, including Russian elites!


94 posted on 03/20/2022 6:19:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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The Globalist’s and the US Chamber of Commerce destroyed Main Street in favour of Global Corporations.

FJB told all Global Companies to exit Russia.
Now, Russia has the opportunity to backfill with Russian’s dedicated to their Main Street.

Let’s see what happens


97 posted on 03/20/2022 6:37:22 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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We are up to our necks in it because a corrupt government and its corrupt corporations.

Trump was the whistle blower on them and was doing a hell of good job in such a shot tome getting things in proper order and the corrupt did everything to stop him and make sure he doesn’t return.
They have caused their own demise the last election has open many eyes to the con job we were handed.


107 posted on 03/20/2022 8:38:08 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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"All verbal tinsel about political correctness, inviolability of private property, freedom of speech -- all this flew off overnight. Even the Olympic principles were trampled on..."

"...particularly when I abused my appearance at the CCP Olympics as cover to communicate my invasion plans to the Chairman, who said, "Ru not invade during Orympics, Xi give ru credit card."

The singularly dumbest blog-pimp ever posted here.

But as dumb as Don is, he's still smarter than you, Seekie. ESAD.

111 posted on 03/20/2022 10:10:42 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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