What’s with the beard?
I’ll bet his CO just loves having him in his unit. If he uses this behavior against the authority of the police, just imagine how he responds to authority in the army.
What a POS. Why in the world do so many minority people think they can blatantly flout the rules and laws? What the hell is wrong with these people?
Ever since the Moslem major killed 13 soldiers and wounded another 30+ at Ft. Hood in 2009, the Army has increased its control/regulations of carrying privately owned weapons on post. I don’t think that carrying a loaded pistol, with or without a round chambered is within current Army post regs.
The cops didn’t see the gun, and he didn’t pull the gun so its irrelevant, if this story is true at all.
More cr@p posted to FR.
Forgot to mention?!
No - they said he was unarmed!!!
Would you care to venture as to how many stupid, BUT LAWFUL orders that this officer has given or WILL give in his military career? I will hazard more then just a few. Yet he would expect those orders to be obeyed, and might even consider recommending a court martial or an Article 15 for a subordinate who did not obey them.
I spent 26 years on active duty and the National Guard, retiring as a Master Sergeant. I was also a State Police Officer. Even the very best of officers I served under, some of whom I love and respect ENORMOUSLY, occasionally gave ill-considered and dumb-ass orders. It goes with the territory of being a fallible human being.
If you could conduct a séance with George Patton, I am sure he would express his regret over having ordered the Hammelburg raid.
I am not saying that the police officers may not have been overbearing and utterly inappropriate as they gave conflicting orders. No matter, at the moment of confrontation, it was incumbent upon an army officer, who should understand the meaning of a lawful, if stupid order, to comply with them and sort out any wrongdoing afterward.
His behavior was just about as silly as any of the officers, PARTICULARLY when he told them that he did not have to get out of the car for a traffic violation when ordered.
If I was this dummy’s CO, I would haul him on the carpet and reprimand or sanction him as I remind him that the Punitive Articles of the UCMJ require a commissioned officer to publicly comport himself at all times in a manner consistent with the dignified behavior that is demanded of them. I see possible violations of Article 92, 133, and 134.
But in this age of the “woke” armed forces, he might just be given a Medal of Honor!!!!
In almost every state, there is a requirement to obey the lawful commands of a police officer. Instructing you to exit a motor vehicle may be inappropriate or stupid, you may even consider it as arbitrary, but it is not per se illegal or unlawful.
When I was a police officer, the State of Illinois had a specific criminal statute in ILCS Chapter 38, making it illegal for a citizen to resist even an unlawful arrest. Many states, to include VA have similar statutes. While I do not personally agree with the rationale behind such laws, the notion for them is that the courts will sort out the necessity of, and the legality behind, the arrest, thus minimizing the likelihood of injuries to the officer or the resisting subject of the illegal? arrest.
I am not surprised that this officer’s department decided to fire him, given the current political climate and the moral cowardice of police and political leadership. They probably violated some civil service or union contractual due process issues by doing so.
You just KNOW that the Democ-RAT bastid governor Klan Man hood Northam will demagogue the hell out of this incident for to exploit racial tensions for his perceived political gain.
Police report says the car had a temporary tag clearly visible in the rear window. So why was he really stopped?
While I was on active duty I ‘illegally’ and regularly drove to new duty stations across the country with a loaded firearm within reach.
This authoritarian bully POS Pig was an out of control maniac which even his young partner seemed to recognize.
So glad he got fired... Personalities liked his are the reason Cops are despised by most.
We practically live in a police state now where these current day SS Troopers can make a criminal of any man if they so choose.
And before you defend them just consider how they do the lefts biddibg and treat most whites the same way. Especially if they are male, conservative, and Cristian.
These dirty ass pigs are all enemies of freedom loving people.
Nothing personal to you but I have been railroaded and mistreated on multiple occasions but was ultimately in the right, had a great lawyer and beat the cases against really dirty cops.
In North Carolina on the front seat is acceptable and recommended method of carry in a vehicle for those who do not have a concealed carry permit
VA and NC laws on carry are almost identical.
Hm...how do we solve this problem? One way: if you get stopped by law enforcement, COMPLY. Do not be a smart mouth. Do not resist. Do not swear at the officers. Simply COMPLY. It really is that easy.
Freeptarders and cop haters pounced.... I am not saying the one cop was over the top but obviously society has learned nothing from taking video clips and running with emotion.
There’s something up with this lieutenant. That facial hair is out of regs which points toward something else going on. If I stopped someone wearing BDUs with that facial hair, my first reaction would be that they’re an imposter.
Supposedly he traveled for a mile and did not stop but I'm sorry I simply would not believe that from officers that have demonstrated totally unprofessional and outright dangerous conduct.
This man probably save someones life by calling these cops out and getting them fired. These officers were destined to kill someone needlessly.
Threads like this pull the leftwing phonies out of hiding.
They make me want to puke.
I’ve known some cops who were great guys and smart as a whip.
Every butterbar I met was a stupid sorry sob and this guy is a classic.
The uniformed services are simply a slice of the American societal pie. The good, and the bad. Ive observed many a junior officer who simply put, were nothing more than overpaid, arrogant horses arses and seldom advanced beyond their obligated service contracts.
If you go to the local article, you will find the Lt had a concealed carry permit for the weapon, which they verified, and then let him go when they verified the dealer take in the rear window. Couldn’t see it because of window tint.
Who would want to be a cop?
A totally thankless job that no sane person will won’t to do leading to more chaos and crime.
Hmmm, that's the pattern among all thee episodes. Every single one.
Although prior to the stop the cops could not have known about the gun, it may however have played an important role in subsequent events. The driver certainly thought he had reason to keep it handy, rather than secured in the trunk. Additionally, the presence of a gun in close proximity to the driver may explain why it took a mile to pull over (which is what alarmed the cops) and why the driver refused to exit his vehicle (the gun would have been visible).
Seems to me the presence of the gun goes a long way toward explaining the driver’s noncompliance.