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Shut Down University Indoctrination! Two Solutions.
self | 1/8/2020 | self

Posted on 01/08/2020 7:33:08 AM PST by wintertime

Discard brick and mortar universities!

1) Free or nearly free education exists **NOW**! The missing ingredient is private systems of certified testing.

Should it cost a quarter of a million to become a doctor or engineer? The more reasonable cost is a tenth of that.

Most of the material needed to be mastered in the STEM fields is**ROTE** and changes little from year to year. It can be learned at home through the Internet and used textbooks.

Yes, some fields require laboratory and clinical rotations. These need a brick and mortar setting....BUT... these experiences can be found or created outside of a university, as well.

2) Encourage employers to use SAT/ACT scores, internships and insurance company input to determine levels of literacy and numeracy to safely and successfully do a job.

Most jobs are learned on the job. If a job didn't need a college degree in 1950, it doesn't need one today.

3) The above can apply to K-12 education, too. The missing key is private systems of certified testing.


TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: anothervanity; education; schooling; university
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To: tbw2

This article’s thesis is the reform of the existing system of credentialing ( university degrees.)

A complete abandonment of the university system is possible now. Free or nearly free education exists now with the Internet and used textbooks. The missing key is private testing and credentialing exams.


41 posted on 01/08/2020 11:24:54 AM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

Thanks for the advice.

Absolutely agree about the cost; college truly is a racket.


42 posted on 01/08/2020 11:28:22 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: wintertime

You got that right now.


43 posted on 01/08/2020 11:31:43 AM PST by Reily
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To: wintertime

The problem is employers not accepting credentials other than accredited university degrees outside a very few systems (MSCE for Microsoft Server admins, for example).


44 posted on 01/08/2020 11:59:37 AM PST by tbw2
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Re: state government defunding universities

I think it is like a big, fat, festering Marxist pimple. It needs to be squeezed from every side possible.


45 posted on 01/08/2020 1:25:21 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: tbw2

Re: employers

I agree getting employers to accept private testing credentials is a possible problem. Getting past the H.R. departments is a hurdle that must be overcome.

Maybe it will be like homeschooling. At the beginning of the homeschooling movement, the big worry was would colleges accept homeschoolers without formal high school diplomas. Now, homeschoolers are eagerly recruited.


46 posted on 01/08/2020 1:29:18 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Reily

Re: Rote

Mastering the material in STEM courses requires rote practice. To earn the A’s I needed for admission to one of the most competitive graduate schools in the world ( an Ivy League university) I needed to practice the problems, review the formulas, and memorize the biochemistry metabolic cycles with the same intensity as any top concert pianist practices his or her scales and arpeggios.

It was the same for any top student whether they admitted it or not.


47 posted on 01/08/2020 1:38:57 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

I’ e spoken to Xers that say they’ll not push their kids into universities and big debt. They said trade schools, community college and living at home would be better.

They’re learning from life.

Cutting funding from schools that discriminate or censor in any way will help some.

Universities have become a huge education employment program, just as politics has become a huge lawyer employment program. Starve them.


48 posted on 01/08/2020 1:53:21 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: polymuser

Yep!

Universities are a big, fat, festering Marxist pimple that needs to be squeezed from every side possible.

Let’s include K-12 as well! Teaching was the most prominent profession for contributors to Bernie Sander’s campaign.


49 posted on 01/08/2020 2:05:00 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

Yes it does for some.
I’m just a cow college guy so what do I know.


50 posted on 01/08/2020 2:30:24 PM PST by Reily
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To: wintertime

The children are the cultural Marxists’ future. Have been for many decades.

Our children have been specifically targeted a century by our pubic schools, news, media, churches and now social media. We had John Dewey’s early 1900’s Progressive (Marxist) influence, followed by The Frankfurt School’s mid-1900’s social Marxist plan for children.

Then Hollywood’s 1950’s communist influences, then NEA’s No God push in our schools, then the 1960’s CPUSA push of college youts for war protests, drug use and wanton fornication, then the 1980’s sitcoms ridiculing parents, then the 1990’s queer push, then the 2000’s self-esteem facade.

A bunch of confused, misdirected young souls around us all...


51 posted on 01/08/2020 3:00:19 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Reily

Six figures with just com college here. Oh, yeah, and years of OJT and self-directed OJL. Not spoon fed.


52 posted on 01/08/2020 3:02:29 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: polymuser

Congratulations!
What makes you think I advocate spoon feeding?


53 posted on 01/08/2020 3:12:18 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

I don’t. I was referring to some Millennials I’ve run across...”Nobody’s shown me how yet.”


54 posted on 01/08/2020 3:14:40 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: polymuser

Not a millennial & again good job!


55 posted on 01/08/2020 3:17:03 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

It applies to all who wish to excel.


56 posted on 01/08/2020 3:19:41 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: polymuser

I have often posted that schooling is our nation’s MOST serious threat.

We proved that we can overcome a serious attack on our soil. If the Marxist indoctrination schooling continues our freedom will be lost in the voting booth.

You are among the few who understand this.


57 posted on 01/08/2020 3:24:15 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: wintertime

Practice does make perfect!


58 posted on 01/08/2020 3:24:33 PM PST by Reily
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To: Truthoverpower

interesting, bump!


59 posted on 01/08/2020 3:25:08 PM PST by Loud Mime ("Now, go and do your duty before darkness covers the earth." Michael Uhlmann (1939 - 2019))
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To: wintertime

I’ve been wishing for years that Rush or Hannity would focus on it. Levin does once in a while. I bring it up here frequently, yet sadly get few nibbles about it.

We are on the fulcrum right now...


60 posted on 01/08/2020 3:27:44 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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