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Poll: What do you think of Denmark’s long term welfare policy for able bodied people?
wordpress ^ | Janaury 29, 2019 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 01/29/2019 2:58:22 AM PST by grundle

Poll: What do you think of Denmark’s long term welfare policy for able bodied people?

This New York Times article is from six years ago, but I just found out about it.

The article talks about able-bodied people in Denmark who have been on welfare for a very long time.

It says these able bodied adults get more money from welfare than what many full time workers get from their jobs.

Here’s one example from the article:

It began as a stunt intended to prove that hardship and poverty still existed in this small, wealthy country, but it backfired badly. Visit a single mother of two on welfare, a liberal member of Parliament goaded a skeptical political opponent, see for yourself how hard it is.

It turned out, however, that life on welfare was not so hard. The 36-year-old single mother, given the pseudonym “Carina” in the news media, had more money to spend than many of the country’s full-time workers. All told, she was getting about $2,700 a month, and she had been on welfare since she was 16.

Here’s another example from the article:

Robert Nielsen, 45, made headlines last September when he was interviewed on television, admitting that he had basically been on welfare since 2001.

Mr. Nielsen said he was able-bodied but had no intention of taking a demeaning job, like working at a fast-food restaurant. He made do quite well on welfare, he said…

… Mr. Nielsen, called “Lazy Robert” by the news media, seems to be enjoying the attention. He says that he is greeted warmly on the street all the time. “Luckily, I am born and live in Denmark, where the government is willing to support my life,” he said.

So when you hear Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, and other American politicians say they want the U.S. to be like Denmark, please ask yourself if the two people cited above by the New York Times are how you would want your own able bodied children to behave when they grow up.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2008election; danes; newjersey; obama; philmurphy; socialism; welfare
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1 posted on 01/29/2019 2:58:22 AM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Kids that grow up to write blogs ought to be considered mentally disabled.


2 posted on 01/29/2019 3:10:37 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: grundle
Another hole in the Treasury. Bankruptcy is more likely to follow when you run out of other people's money.

New York is doing it big time over here.

3 posted on 01/29/2019 3:20:46 AM PST by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: grundle

Voted in the poll and Tweeted the article, too. Personally, I like blogs.


4 posted on 01/29/2019 3:25:20 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: grundle

Worse than the financial harm to productive workers is the moral damage to those on welfare. Removing their incentive to be productive is a supremely evil act - what is the point of a life that does not contribute? Socialists are responsible for that evil.


5 posted on 01/29/2019 3:26:47 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1

“Removing their incentive to be productive is a supremely evil act”

It’s not just the government that does this. In today’s society parents are likely to have created more permanent welfare cases than the gov. By this I mean not expecting a kid to do anything and when reaching adult hood allowing them to stay home and leach off of mommy & daddy into their 30’s and beyond.

I personally know of 3 cases. Here’s an example: The man was our neighbor close to 50. He never worked as mom let him stay at home and provided. She lost her farm and thus lost her income. This guy is an alcoholic with no job skills.


6 posted on 01/29/2019 3:53:14 AM PST by redfreedom (The only thing consistent about liberal logic is the inconsistency of their logic.)
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To: Pollster1

We are at this moment creating a new class of entitlements just as people are realizing entitlements are a corollary of Murphy’s Law. “What can’t happen won’t.” They are serious with this “Universal Income” propaganda and we will sooon have a new class of leech of “professional consumers”. Welcome to the Brave New World.


7 posted on 01/29/2019 4:28:52 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

“THE DEVIL finds work for idle hands”.

..........remember that one?


8 posted on 01/29/2019 4:35:35 AM PST by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: grundle

And the Danes are known for being hard working. This proves that the social welfare system turns some people into lazy indolent slobs.


9 posted on 01/29/2019 4:41:40 AM PST by I want the USA back (In any war between the civilized world and the savage support the civilized man. -Geller.)
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To: grundle

I’ve watched a number of German reality shows which touch on welfare/social decline. You can generally see three key factors for ‘losers’ on permanent unemployment/social welfare:

1. No real skill or craft. They flanked out of an apprentice program, and there’s nothing to market themselves at age 25 to 50.
2. No real skills at handling money.
3. Most have adapted to marijuana or alcohol-related issues.

What amazes me is that these migrant folks who arrive and get job-training and skill-crafts....are showing enthusiasm for it...while the loser folks on social welfare have zero interest in recovering their lives.


10 posted on 01/29/2019 4:50:36 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: grundle

Not just Denmark. I owned apartments all were section 8 inspected. Had a tenant, single woman no kids. Claimed handicap but seemed to have to problem walking all over town, acting in olays, and bowling. Her rent was paid by some agency, she got about 400 a month in food stamps and 750 a month in cash assistance. A free phone, and a free car. Had every electronic device one could ask for. And more disposable cash than I had.


11 posted on 01/29/2019 5:12:26 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: jacknhoo

Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for the tweet!


12 posted on 01/29/2019 5:19:23 AM PST by grundle
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The 36-year-old single mother, given the pseudonym “Carina” in the news media, had more money to spend than many of the country’s full-time workers.

Yep. The Left likes to portray their battles as the "rich" against the "poor" but in reality, its a battle against the lazy who vote Dem versus the productive.

13 posted on 01/29/2019 6:01:20 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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“Mr. Nielsen, called “Lazy Robert” by the news media, seems to be enjoying the attention. He says that he is greeted warmly on the street all the time. “Luckily, I am born and live in Denmark, where the government is willing to support my life,” he said.”

Lol.Lazy Robert should consider moving to the US and running as Lazy Bernie Sanders Vice Presidential candidate on the Lazy Party (Democrat) ticket


14 posted on 01/29/2019 6:04:14 AM PST by chuckee
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To: grundle

The welfare office secretary here quit after she realized the clients were getting more than she was working 40/hr a week.

My .02, welfare should only be given for six months twice during a person’s adult lifetime. After that, they’re on their own.


15 posted on 01/29/2019 6:48:00 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.S)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“The Left” still likes to portray the US as a Dicken’s novel.


16 posted on 01/29/2019 7:17:44 AM PST by Reily
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To: Flintlock

or.....

“Idle hands are the devil’s workshop.”


17 posted on 01/29/2019 7:27:37 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: grundle

Hunger is the cure for Lazy.


18 posted on 01/29/2019 8:03:20 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is fixing the world's problems just to distract us from Russia.)
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To: I want the USA back
And the Danes are known for being hard working.

I had never heard that. for some reason I've always seen the Danes as pot headed perverts. (or is that the Netherlands? Could be both I guess)

19 posted on 01/29/2019 8:47:18 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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Hard-working Danes is a fallacy, a MSM put on.

They put their time in: 37 to 40 fours/week, 20+ holiday days off plus vacation plus two weeks of ‘stress leave’, many mornings hung over (they drink often, and drink to get drunk), much of their work hours spent planning their next holiday.

Were our workers to compete with theirs straight up, it’d be no contest. We would exhaust them.


20 posted on 01/30/2019 8:30:05 AM PST by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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